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Author:   magsasaka
Date:   Jan 12, 13 at 9:21pm (PST)
Subject:   magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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i'm only planning on it atm but suppose i want to build my own pc (which ive never done b4)
if i wanted one that can have 8 gb ddr3 ram, i5 processorr and some nvidia card, will this motherboard be compatible?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-H61M-P31-G3-Motherboard-Intel-H61-S-1155-DDR3-SATA-II-3Gb-s-PCIe-3-/360542959335?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA&hash=item53f208f6e7

and when i look for a case, what do i need to look for, like do i need to research dimensions and stuff and do i need to do some drilling to fix the motherboard in???





Author:   Duncan Idaho
Date:   Jan 12, 13 at 9:45pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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quote magsasaka
i'm only planning on it atm but suppose i want to build my own pc (which ive never done b4)
if i wanted one that can have 8 gb ddr3 ram, i5 processorr and some nvidia card, will this motherboard be compatible?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-H61M-P31-G3-Motherboard-Intel-H61-S-1155-DDR3-SATA-II-3Gb-s-PCIe-3-/360542959335?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA&hash=item53f208f6e7

and when i look for a case, what do i need to look for, like do i need to research dimensions and stuff and do i need to do some drilling to fix the motherboard in???


not sure but i can help you with the bulding part, this guide helped me to buy a PC rig:





Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Jan 12, 13 at 10:07pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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magsasaka yes, that mobo will be compatible, though it is a rather old mobo. I wouldn't recommend getting a H61 mobo at all. Try searching for a H77.

As for cases, you would want what is called a "Mid-Tower ATX" case. Any mid tower should be big enough for anything you're after.



Author:   magsasaka
Date:   Jan 13, 13 at 3:34am (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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thanks for the tips so far guys

Crusad3r that board looks goood, oh and when i buy these motherboards, is the bios already pre loaded or do i have to install it myself (never done any installation outside the OS too =S)

and for cpu cooling, i found this
is it any good?, better than the stock fan?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CWCH60-Performance-Radiator-All-In-One/dp/B004MYFOE2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358074896&sr=8-1

i saw a guide on youtube on water cooling, but the guy installed a water tank, a radiator and tubes and stuff, and i thought, that isnt the same as this product i found on amazon 0,0 too hardcore



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Jan 13, 13 at 4:25am (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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magsasaka The H77 mobo is developed for casual PC users, the Z77 mobo is geared more towards gamers, but since you originally picked out a H61, I suggested the later generation.

What you linked there is a liquid cooler. Definitely not recommended for beginners on a brand new PC. You'll almost definitely have a leak somewhere and short circuit your entire rig.



Author:   magsasaka
Date:   Jan 13, 13 at 3:33pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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quote Crusad3r
magsasaka The H77 mobo is developed for casual PC users, the Z77 mobo is geared more towards gamers, but since you originally picked out a H61, I suggested the later generation.

What you linked there is a liquid cooler. Definitely not recommended for beginners on a brand new PC. You'll almost definitely have a leak somewhere and short circuit your entire rig.
alrite
im trying to paint somethhing here, what dya think?

Motherboard:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=h77
CPU:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=h77#/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=i5+3.4&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ai5+3.4
RAM:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9-1600MHz-Vengeance-Memory/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358108292&sr=8-2
GPU:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/3D-CGAX-7876O-RoyalKing-Graphics-DisplayPort/dp/B007XE4CH8/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1358118861&sr=8-11
CASE:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Coolermaster-Elite-334U-Tower-Case/dp/B005Q8TYBC/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1358109549&sr=1-1
PSU:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powercool-750W-Dual-V2-2-Efficiency/dp/B00647MS3K/ref=sr_1_9?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1358110139&sr=1-9



Author:   Duncan Idaho
Date:   Jan 13, 13 at 4:06pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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Magsasaka i recomend http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-HDZ965FBGMBOX-Phenom-II-965/dp/B002SRQ214/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358121797&sr=8-1, it's like the intel processors, but cheaper, is a quad core too and i've been often recomended that CPU since it tends to benchmarch higher than others, intel systems are good but the prices can get extreme.

Also i'd recomend reconsidering your ram choice, the one you chose has those thorns/sticks and you migth not have sufficient space for adding it.



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Jan 13, 13 at 9:55pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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Pretty good choices magsasaka.

All you'll need is a HDD now. An optic drive would be useful to install stuff too

Duncan Idaho I'm not sure why you'd recommend that CPU since Intel's equivalent range (i5 3550k) far outperforms that CPU with higher energy efficiency too. Until AMD comes out with something that can compete with current Intel chips, I would not recommend getting AMD.



Author:   Duncan Idaho
Date:   Jan 13, 13 at 10:07pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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quote Crusad3r
I'm not sure why you'd recommend that CPU since Intel's equivalent range (i5 3550k) far outperforms that CPU with higher energy efficiency too. Until AMD comes out with something that can compete with current Intel chips, I would not recommend getting AMD.
I went for that exact same model, and the forum where i submited the whole PC i was recomended the Phenom, that still does quite allright and it helps to avoid increasing the cost, in a similar way i also went for an Nvidia card, but i was pointed that nvidia has abandoned the gaming market in favor of other markets.



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Jan 13, 13 at 11:02pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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Duncan Idaho Fair enough. The Phenom isn't bad per say, but the i5 is a lot better.

Those guys have no idea what they're talking about with nvidia though, considering they've recently announced a new handheld console that uses your PC's graphics card to render the graphics. That's hardly "abandoning the gaming market".



Author:   Duncan Idaho
Date:   Jan 13, 13 at 11:09pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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quote Crusad3r
Duncan Idaho Fair enough. The Phenom isn't bad per say, but the i5 is a lot better.

Those guys have no idea what they're talking about with nvidia though, considering they've recently announced a new handheld console that uses your PC's graphics card to render the graphics. That's hardly "abandoning the gaming market".
well they did abandon it for a while, and the guy who gave me the guide i left on an other topic is the shadow broker of the forum i go, his job is to keep up with the latest tech and OS stuff since it's his irl job, also i remember reading somewhere that the phenom per core performance outperformed other stuff but i cant remember if there were same AMD cpu's or intel cpu's.

It's also a choice on the matter i am going mostly for an AMD PC since reviewers were popping up saying that about nvidia and that the before troublesome cards were now performing quite a lot better since they had fixed their drivers issues, and they went for a while for other markets, like physics and such and their cards seemingly not performing the way the papers said it would (also if you could can you go and give a check to my old topic?).

Aside that i had posted a small guide he gave me and i used to more or less check the what i wanted for a PC.



Author:   magsasaka
Date:   Jan 17, 13 at 4:25pm (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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a little update
the case came today and it's massive!!, a lot fatter than the pre-made pc that ive been using for the last 5 years.
it also has 2 spots on the side that will allow screwing for more fans. the psu's supposed to be placed down low, i wouldnt've prefered it but it's ok..

i'm going with intel for the cpu cause ive already chosen a motherboard plus, intel is better documented about its products on the interwebs.

my first choice for the gpu was actually a nvidia
this one to be precise http://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-Geforce-NVIDIA-Graphics-PCI-Ex16/dp/B009ANT09U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358109140&sr=8-2
(i only copied it from other people's in this forum as ive no idea about anything really)

i googled reviews for it and saw another brand/model compared to it (ATI/AMD) and when i searched for it, it came up cheaper..

oh and pny, who the hell are pny? one model number but so many manufacturers
i don't really care about who made what as long as the figures look good, or should i?
same with motherboard; asus, gigabit, asrock, msi
which one to choose?



Author:   bridgestone
Date:   Jan 18, 13 at 2:12am (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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cool



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Jan 18, 13 at 8:10am (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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quote magsasaka
a little update
the case came today and it's massive!!, a lot fatter than the pre-made pc that ive been using for the last 5 years.
it also has 2 spots on the side that will allow screwing for more fans. the psu's supposed to be placed down low, i wouldnt've prefered it but it's ok..

i'm going with intel for the cpu cause ive already chosen a motherboard plus, intel is better documented about its products on the interwebs.

my first choice for the gpu was actually a nvidia
this one to be precise http://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-Geforce-NVIDIA-Graphics-PCI-Ex16/dp/B009ANT09U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358109140&sr=8-2
(i only copied it from other people's in this forum as ive no idea about anything really)

i googled reviews for it and saw another brand/model compared to it (ATI/AMD) and when i searched for it, it came up cheaper..

oh and pny, who the hell are pny? one model number but so many manufacturers
i don't really care about who made what as long as the figures look good, or should i?
same with motherboard; asus, gigabit, asrock, msi
which one to choose?
The GTX 660 isn't bad. An AMD would be cheaper, but you wouldn't have Phys-X, which some games support. Phys-X makes games look amazing.

With manufacturers, you have to look at the factory clock speeds that their cards give. Your 660 has a clock speed of 980mhz while the EVGA 660 has a 1046mhz factory clock speed, which means you'll have to overclock your card to make up the difference. Besides that, the basic card itself is from Nvidia

Same with motherboards. Look at the specifications and which ones you want and which ones you don't need or is overkill. Post some that interest you.



Author:   magsasaka
Date:   Jan 18, 13 at 10:54am (PST)
Subject:   re: magsasaka's build [NEED HELP WITH PSU!]
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quote Crusad3r
quote magsasaka
a little update
the case came today and it's massive!!, a lot fatter than the pre-made pc that ive been using for the last 5 years.
it also has 2 spots on the side that will allow screwing for more fans. the psu's supposed to be placed down low, i wouldnt've prefered it but it's ok..

i'm going with intel for the cpu cause ive already chosen a motherboard plus, intel is better documented about its products on the interwebs.

my first choice for the gpu was actually a nvidia
this one to be precise http://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-Geforce-NVIDIA-Graphics-PCI-Ex16/dp/B009ANT09U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358109140&sr=8-2
(i only copied it from other people's in this forum as ive no idea about anything really)

i googled reviews for it and saw another brand/model compared to it (ATI/AMD) and when i searched for it, it came up cheaper..

oh and pny, who the hell are pny? one model number but so many manufacturers
i don't really care about who made what as long as the figures look good, or should i?
same with motherboard; asus, gigabit, asrock, msi
which one to choose?
The GTX 660 isn't bad. An AMD would be cheaper, but you wouldn't have Phys-X, which some games support. Phys-X makes games look amazing.

With manufacturers, you have to look at the factory clock speeds that their cards give. Your 660 has a clock speed of 980mhz while the EVGA 660 has a 1046mhz factory clock speed, which means you'll have to overclock your card to make up the difference. Besides that, the basic card itself is from Nvidia

Same with motherboards. Look at the specifications and which ones you want and which ones you don't need or is overkill. Post some that interest you.
i already ordered everything...
yeah, i wasn't saying the gtx 660 is bad!, the radeon was cheaper is all.
maybe in the future i'd get the fastest gtx at that time.. but this radeon would sureley be enough to play my games, it's sureley an upgrade from my old humble gt 240, probably enough to make me jizz outta my nose..

i already have the case, now just waiting for the rest


powa

memory

cup holder

motherbrain

processor

storage

gfxcard

am i missing anything? besides the mice and kb ofc


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