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Author:   qurt80
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 8:11pm (PST)
Subject:   First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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Hi guys,
I have recently decided that i have had enough of my computer and i decided to build a new one. A friend and I have been working on it, but what he is recommending seems so expensive for what I am looking for. This may just be me though. I am hoping to run games like World of Warcraft and League of Legends on it on the higher qualities and get 60 fps. I may want to have the ability to record/stream one day so if that doesn't make the price astronomical, i would love to have it. Any suggestions are very much appreciated. Thanks!

Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009
For Wireless:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704031
GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130809
PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119270
(comes with free 8 gb of ram)
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231488
Process:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
Operating System:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
Extras:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021128
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812189016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119270
Thanks again!



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 9:05pm (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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Your mobo link links to your PSU

Other things:
- your case and psu are very expensive. You can save at least $100 on them
- any particular reason you went for an aftermarket cooler? The stock cooler you get with your CPU works better than the one you linked
- you haven't linked a hard drive. Go for a 1tb HDD
- if you're only looking to play games like wow and lol, you can ditch the graphics card altogether. You'll only need it for high end games. Live streaming and recording is more CPU intensive than graphics intensive.
- you won't need another SATA cable
- have you thought about getting Win8?



Author:   qurt80
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 9:16pm (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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This is the Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119270
I already have this HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299 (sorry forgot to post)

Do you have any recommendations for the psu and case, my friend seems to think i need something spectacular.

Why should i ditch the graphics card? Is it really unnecessary?
Sorry new to computers.
For the aftermarket cooler, my friend argued that it was a neccesity. I was leaning toward stock



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 9:24pm (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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You linked to a SATA cable that time

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1162911 - This case and PSU combo will save you a bunch of cash.

A good case is necessary for good airflow if you're doing intensive gaming with a rig that heats up easily. Other than that, it's just vanity.



Author:   qurt80
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 9:40pm (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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MOBO!!!!:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131820



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 9:47pm (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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That's an expensive motherboard. Just going to waste if you're just going to be playing WoW and League

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130653 would be a better option

Also, if you turn vsync on for most games, it'll run pretty smoothly at between 30 and 60 FPS



Author:   qurt80
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 9:49pm (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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Because the RAM isn't free anymore, should I downgrade?

Also, people have highly recommended that I stay away from win8? Do you think its worth it?



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 10:14pm (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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No need to downgrade at all. 8gb of ram these days is extremely cheap. Only 40-50 bucks. It'll still be cheaper than getting that mobo with the free ram

No idea why people would recommend you to stay away from Win8. It's not much different from Win7 except for a new UI



Author:   qurt80
Date:   Dec 29, 12 at 10:39pm (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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This looks to be my final build:
Qtys Remove Selected
Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price


ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$19.99


TP-LINK TL-WN951N Wireless N300 Advanced PCI Adapter, 300Mbps, w/WPS Button, IEEE 802.11b/g/n, WEP, WPA/WPA2
Item #: N82E16833704031
Return Policy: Networking Extended Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$39.99
$29.99
1

TP-LINK TL-ANT2403N 2.4GHz 3dBi Wireless N Desktop Antenna
Item #: N82E16833997217
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
-$29.99 Saving
$39.99
$0.00


EVGA 02G-P4-3660-KR GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130809
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$289.99
1

NVIDIA Gift PC Game Assassin's Creed 3
Item #: N82E16800999298
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$49.99 Saving
$49.99
$0.00


MSI Z77A-G41 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813130653
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$9.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$99.99
$90.99


Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
Item #: N82E16819116504
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$219.99


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$99.99


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ...
Item #: N82E16835103099
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$3.00 Instant
$37.99
$34.99


Rosewill - Pellucid HD Series High Speed HDMI® cable (6 FEET)
Item #: N82E16882021128
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$6.99


Link Depot C6M-5-BKB 5 ft. Cat 6 Black Network Cable
Item #: N82E16812189016
Return Policy: Computer Cables and Accessories Extended Return Policy
$3.49



Rosewill Stallion Series RD700 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817182278
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
Item #: N82E16811147153
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$20.00 Instant
-$10.00 Combo
$139.98
$109.98
Subtotal: $906.39



Author:   mulinjohe
Date:   Dec 30, 12 at 12:32am (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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It's not much different from Win7 except for a new UI



Author:   Smok3Dogg
Date:   Dec 30, 12 at 3:26am (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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quote Crusad3r
Your mobo link links to your PSU

Other things:
- your case and psu are very expensive. You can save at least $100 on them
- any particular reason you went for an aftermarket cooler? The stock cooler you get with your CPU works better than the one you linked
The hyper 212 runs circles around stock cooler. Do you know what you are talking about?

As for case it is personal choice. And never skimp on a PSU. It is heart of your build.



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Dec 30, 12 at 4:09am (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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Smok3Dogg I don't see the point of him having it if he's only going to be playing WoW and LoL. Those games don't even require a graphics card to play at max graphics settings. Tried and tested with an i5 3330 with 8gb of ram.



Author:   Freeze
Date:   Dec 30, 12 at 5:57am (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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Crusad3r he wasn't talking about the GPU but the PSU and cooler.
I agree with him on the PSU part though, I don't think you should ever go for lesser options there, same as with your CPU, those two are the heart of any PC.



Author:   qurt80
Date:   Dec 31, 12 at 11:32am (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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Because of the newegg deal i'm thinking of switching from
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130809:
to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127577
Any thoughts. My brother has shown interest in playing some of the higher graphically demanding games so i'm going to stick with getting a graphics card.
Thanks!





Author:   qurt80
Date:   Dec 31, 12 at 11:36am (PST)
Subject:   re: First Build- Looking to Trim Fat
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This is another build that a friend of mine has been pushing:
CPU/PSU/RAM/MOBO/GPU/CASE:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1069078

HDD (for the storage):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136697

DVD-RW (for the installation):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

OS (for the GUI):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

CAT 6 CABLE (for the Internets):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812189016

HDMI (for Monitor/TV):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021128

SATA CABLE (for HDD/DVD):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119270


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