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Author:   Randome
Date:   Apr 21, 12 at 11:19am (PST)
Subject:   Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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Note that this video is from 2007, so when they said "in 5 years" they meant now.



Also, funny how it's only 3.16 GHz.

But yeah, we could sure use some of that "photo realistic gaming and AI that was previously only available to scientists and academics, using super-computers".

Also, 80 cores and 3.16 GHz and only 60 watts?


Edited to correct some spelling.




Author:   harbin
Date:   Apr 21, 12 at 11:25am (PST)
Subject:   re: Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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What bloody motherboard is that going to fit on to



Author:   Gligar
Date:   Apr 21, 12 at 11:48am (PST)
Subject:   re: Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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I wonder what AMD is going to come up with



Author:   BlackLabel
Date:   Apr 21, 12 at 12:55pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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quote Gligar
I wonder what AMD is going to come up with
Something half as good but under the excuse of "affordable power" lol.



Author:   Supernova1332
Date:   Apr 21, 12 at 3:46pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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The Many Integrated Core, MIC, that the video is talking about is related to Intel's Larrabee project. They were attempting to create x86 capable computing and graphics cards. Larrabee was canceled because it couldnt compete with the current technology, at the time the HD 4890 and gtx 285.

Currently they have Knights Ferry released and Knights Corner on the way by the end of the year. As far as raw performance goes they're horribly weak, Knights Ferry only passes 750 gflops in single precision, compared to over 3000 gflops for the gtx 680 and hd 7970. The only thing that it holds over the chips is that it supports x86 code.

Gligar
AMD isn't coming out with anything like this as it already has a graphics devision and the niche market for the x86 compute cards is fairly small. The newest thing AMD is doing for servers with tons of cores is that they bought Seamicro. They produce compact servers with lots of cores.

And Tilera is the first company to actually produce a CPU with 100 cores for consumers.
Tile-GX
Talking about a cpu with 80 cores is one thing but actually releasing it is another.



Author:   hiigaran
Date:   Apr 22, 12 at 6:55am (PST)
Subject:   re: Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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i really wish that they would just do away with CPUs, and move everything over to GPUs. yeah i know that the way they process things is completely different, but i dont see why we cant start from scratch, right? sounds costly, but someones eventually going to have to do it. i dont see why we need TWO main processors in a computer, when it can be rolled in to one.

...and lets not get started on north/south bridges. at least things were partially integrated in to the CPU in recent times.

less parts in a computer = less chance of something breaking. and im sure theres a power saving bonus somewhere in there...



Author:   AnthonyPaulO
Date:   Nov 08, 12 at 9:18am (PST)
Subject:   Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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Horribly weak? You're comparing a CPU (serial processor) with a GPU (parallel processor), so you're comparing apples with oranges. They both excel at what they do, which are at opposite sides of the spectrum. Most application logic isn't amenable to parallel execution, which is why the CPU exists... it is optimized to execute sequential operations faster than trying to do so on a GPU. The GPU is optimized for parallel operations, so it is able to execute non-sequential operations faster than on a CPU. This is why graphic-intesive operations (which are parallel in nature) are best left to the GPU and most application logic (which is sequential in nature) are best left to the CPU. Your much vaunted 3000 gflop gtx's will become 100 mflop turds if you were to port, let's say, Windows 7 to run on it. Apple's and Oranges...

quote Supernova1332
The Many Integrated Core, MIC, that the video is talking about is related to Intel's Larrabee project. They were attempting to create x86 capable computing and graphics cards. Larrabee was canceled because it couldnt compete with the current technology, at the time the HD 4890 and gtx 285.

Currently they have Knights Ferry released and Knights Corner on the way by the end of the year. As far as raw performance goes they're horribly weak, Knights Ferry only passes 750 gflops in single precision, compared to over 3000 gflops for the gtx 680 and hd 7970. The only thing that it holds over the chips is that it supports x86 code.

Gligar
AMD isn't coming out with anything like this as it already has a graphics devision and the niche market for the x86 compute cards is fairly small. The newest thing AMD is doing for servers with tons of cores is that they bought Seamicro. They produce compact servers with lots of cores.

And Tilera is the first company to actually produce a CPU with 100 cores for consumers.
Tile-GX
Talking about a cpu with 80 cores is one thing but actually releasing it is another.




Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Nov 08, 12 at 10:04am (PST)
Subject:   Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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Sounds like they took inspiration from that gigantic chip and made the i series intel chips from it with the turning cores on and off thing.



Author:   Supernova1332
Date:   Nov 09, 12 at 2:13pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Intels new 80-core CPU is almost ready for release!
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quote AnthonyPaulO
Horribly weak? You're comparing a CPU (serial processor) with a GPU (parallel processor), so you're comparing apples with oranges. They both excel at what they do, which are at opposite sides of the spectrum. Most application logic isn't amenable to parallel execution, which is why the CPU exists... it is optimized to execute sequential operations faster than trying to do so on a GPU. The GPU is optimized for parallel operations, so it is able to execute non-sequential operations faster than on a CPU. This is why graphic-intesive operations (which are parallel in nature) are best left to the GPU and most application logic (which is sequential in nature) are best left to the CPU. Your much vaunted 3000 gflop gtx's will become 100 mflop turds if you were to port, let's say, Windows 7 to run on it. Apple's and Oranges...

quote Supernova1332
The Many Integrated Core, MIC, that the video is talking about is related to Intel's Larrabee project. They were attempting to create x86 capable computing and graphics cards. Larrabee was canceled because it couldnt compete with the current technology, at the time the HD 4890 and gtx 285.

Currently they have Knights Ferry released and Knights Corner on the way by the end of the year. As far as raw performance goes they're horribly weak, Knights Ferry only passes 750 gflops in single precision, compared to over 3000 gflops for the gtx 680 and hd 7970. The only thing that it holds over the chips is that it supports x86 code.

Gligar
AMD isn't coming out with anything like this as it already has a graphics devision and the niche market for the x86 compute cards is fairly small. The newest thing AMD is doing for servers with tons of cores is that they bought Seamicro. They produce compact servers with lots of cores.

And Tilera is the first company to actually produce a CPU with 100 cores for consumers.
Tile-GX
Talking about a cpu with 80 cores is one thing but actually releasing it is another.

Yes, horribly weak. It's not a CPU, it's a co-processor. That's a nice way of saying 'A processor that executes code in a way that the CPU is awful at.'
If you took a moment to google Larrabee you would know that it was supposed to be a GPU based on many small cpu cores used to execute x86 code as well as API's like Direct X and OpenGL as a GPU would. It was also intended to make it easier to execute code through OpenCL as it would allow easier transference of data between the CPU and the Larrabee GPU.

Knights Ferry could not even execute double precision, which is incredibly important in most HPC markets (which is what intel was aiming at with the card).


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