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Author:   Hadesama
Date:   May 28, 13 at 4:52pm (PST)
Subject:   The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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The final boss of this game, was the Virage Embryo The God of Destruction. However, when you finally fight it, you basically just fight a half-assed not even fully mature form.

Let me explain:

During the game we are said that the Virage is formed by 2 things, its body sealed in the Moon That Never Sets and its soul. The soul was Shana and we are told in the game that the Moon was not its real body but was basically the final egg from which he would emerge. About the soul it played an important factor, because we are told that during the Winglies dictatorship they used the Virage's soul in a crystal staff that gave them infinite magic, Shana showed some of this power as well, during some instances in the game when she was in true danger she would release the Embryo's power which would automatically kill anything that threatened her.

However now lets look at the final fight:

Neither the soul or the body of the Virage was there, we basically fight a fetus of it. Melbu posses the body of the Embryo, not Shana its soul which was stated to have infinite magic and showed it so right there we have a nerf since thanks to not having its true soul it won't be able to use its abilities to its fullest extent. Then as for its body Dart and his friends fight him when he is still inside the egg preparing to be born, in other words the Virage is never given the ability to even be born properly. I thought that when the final fight came they would fight it properly, but instead all we got was a half-assed version where the final villain basically fought in its fetus form with its magical abilities nerfed as well because of not having its true soul which had its magic.



Author:   Corruption
Date:   May 28, 13 at 5:17pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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And how do you expect the good guys would have won if the Virage were allowed to mature? A being of unstoppable power that, as you said, when Shana used a fraction of its power, instantly killed anything that threatened her.

It's called strategy. This game isn't DBZ, the protagonists aren't morons who are going to politely wait for an enemy capable of wrecking the world to reach full strength.

Melbu Frahma was still more or less a god and far more powerful than anything else encountered. Really don't know why you're complaining other than just for the sake of complaining.



Author:   pika25
Date:   May 28, 13 at 7:00pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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Well, what's your plan on dealing with a 42000+ HP enemy?

I know one character that got unnecessarily nerfed, and I'm not too happy about that.



Author:   Corruption
Date:   May 29, 13 at 6:32am (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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quote pika25
I know one character that got unnecessarily nerfed, and I'm not too happy about that.
We all wish Zieg was playable.



Author:   OMEGAMI
Date:   May 29, 13 at 7:06am (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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I don't really care if the final boss was nerfed for the sake of them winning, what I care for is the challenge that they put into the final boss, and that one was poor.
I expected a harder fight, I prepared for that fight thinking that it was going to be the hardest fight in the game (didn't know about Faust) and I ended up massacring the poor bastard, not a single healing potion was used.

It's almost as if the developers fell asleep and didn't realized how powerful one can be at this time of the game.



Author:   Hadesama1
Date:   May 29, 13 at 8:03pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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quote Corruption
And how do you expect the good guys would have won if the Virage were allowed to mature? A being of unstoppable power that, as you said, when Shana used a fraction of its power, instantly killed anything that threatened her.

It's called strategy. This game isn't DBZ, the protagonists aren't morons who are going to politely wait for an enemy capable of wrecking the world to reach full strength.

Melbu Frahma was still more or less a god and far more powerful than anything else encountered. Really don't know why you're complaining other than just for the sake of complaining.
Well a way could had been allow it to hatch and then have Shana in your party and be able to use her VE power, that would had been a credible way to defeat it, have him hatch and even allow Melbu by fully merging with the now mature form to use the inifnite magic ability of the Virage and its abilities to its full extent.

Shana could had been used as a booster for all the characters or something with her incredible magic, this would as well have made the 108th species part of the solution by evolving into the human species (in the form of Shana) and fighting for life rather than just a mindless beast. That would had been a way to defeat it I guess.



Author:   Corruption
Date:   May 29, 13 at 8:48pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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Except if the Virage Embryo is allowed to mature, Shana doesn't have it's powers anymore seeing as allowing it to mature basically means it's soul and body are completely united. For that matter, if that happened, Shana probably wouldn't even exist anymore. But if she still lived, she'd be worthless. No dragoon, no Virage powers anymore.



Author:   pika25
Date:   May 30, 13 at 11:38am (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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quote Corruption
quote pika25
I know one character that got unnecessarily nerfed, and I'm not too happy about that.
We all wish Zieg was playable.
I wasn't talking about that.



Author:   Hadesama
Date:   Jun 03, 13 at 8:35pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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quote Corruption
Except if the Virage Embryo is allowed to mature, Shana doesn't have it's powers anymore seeing as allowing it to mature basically means it's soul and body are completely united. For that matter, if that happened, Shana probably wouldn't even exist anymore. But if she still lived, she'd be worthless. No dragoon, no Virage powers anymore.
The Virage could have madured with Melbu instead and it was working since the thing was starting to go through transformations. Shana wouldn't have lost her powers with that.

My guess is that if it had been Shana as the Virage it would had matured and hatched immediatly rather than having to go through transformations.



Author:   Mrgrimmz
Date:   Oct 14, 13 at 2:00am (PST)
Subject:   re: The final boss was nerfed...... anyone else think that was disappointing?
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I wouldn't say Melbu was nerfed. I mean; it really depends on your level to be honest. If you're the highest level & hitting the Blazing Dynamo with ease each time and everyone is Lvl 5 Dragoon, and Divine Dragon Cannon is spammed; yeah he's easy. But if you're not a grinder, he can be hard; if Rose is level 2 Dragoon & you're not good with high rank additions; it's gonna be difficult, I watched a friend using Meru, Dart & Albert lose multiple times until he finally took my advice and leveled up more. I can easily beat him, but that's because I get to the highest levels & use the best additions to gain SP & morph. Nerfed though? Eh not imo.


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