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Mar 18, 07 at 8:10pm

We were discussing this little issue in this thread, so I thought I would make a separate thread for it. I thought there was a thread for this already, but there isn't one in the index.

I am suggestion the Moderation Queue becomes private. It should only be seen by the Moderators that have power in the particular forum (Including Section and Super Mods of course) or section.

There is no need for members to be able to see why other people were reported. Frankly, it is none of their business. If they want to know why they were reported, they can just PM a moderator and ask. Most of the time though, either the post is restored, or the moderator will delete the post and send a message to the member about why it was deleted (or put a message in the thread if the thread was closed or a bunch of posts were deleted).

Comments? ^-^

Thread Recap (last 10 posts from newest to oldest)

Jun 08, 07 at 11:48pm
Mishtram

Just to mention, but even though I think the removal of the link entirely from those who do not need it would not be a problem (since they are not part of the moderation procedure past the use of the report button), I do think that having it listed won't cause any real problems. No need for a public link, for the most part, but unlike last time abuse and members trying to wiggle themselves into situations where they can be "mediators" was possible, the only problem here is the absolute uselessness of the link for members and other moderators most of the time. ^^



Jun 07, 07 at 6:21am
Deathman48

quote Lord Sion
Is this an issue anymore?
Not really, the removal of the reason from public view is probably as far as this suggestion will go.



Jun 07, 07 at 5:58am
Kokoro

I don't support this. I think it's nice to know what posts are reported. Besides, the report reasons are already only available to the mods, but it didn't used to be. I think they should just keep it at that.



Jun 07, 07 at 2:21am
Subtle Demise

Is this an issue anymore? As far as I know, non-moderators are not able to see the detailed reasons for reports in the queue anymore, so I assume this was some sort of compromise. The basic reasons like spamming, flaming, etc. are still visible, but that is all the reported members (the regular members who probably view the moderation queue the most) should need to know anyway, in my opinion.

If more clarification is needed for them, then as said before, it's a matter of patience. They either wait for a moderator to delete it, in which case they receive a private message, or for it to return to view or have the moderation tag removed, which will indicate to the member that they did nothing to warrant post deletion, except obviously, in those cases where a mod must edit a post in order to fix an instance where a curse filter bypass or spam link found their way onto an otherwise legitimate post. Members also have an option of PMing the forum's moderator to find out the detailed reason why they were reported, and it is up to the mod whether or not it warrants an explanation.

Put simply, I support the suggestion, since members who are truly concerned at bettering their posting habits would follow the above steps if public viewing of the moderation queue was removed.



Jun 07, 07 at 1:04am
GuardianGriffen

This suggestion was invented at a time when it was easy to flame/troll someone when reporting them. I am glad that has been taken care of.

quote Justin Time
Or they can just make a rule against discussion of reasons why a post was reported.
K.I.S.S. (keep it simple)
The more complicated the rules are the harder it is for people to follow them. You could argue that adding a rule for breathing would be a good idea because we need to breath in order to effectively participate. Why not leave it up to the individual moderators and perhaps have some feedback on explenations and how they are interpreted?

No matter how you define a rule, someone is going to break it. You can break the rules in order to find out what the rules are or you can break the rules to get attention. The idea of clarifying the rules is to avoid breaking them. Learning from a minor infraction can also accomplish this goal.

quote Justin Time
Also its nice to know for noobs what type of posts get you reported, and what is not acceptable.
Everyone needs a reality check every now and again. This is why even older members break the rules. Join dates only show how much time you have had to learn the site features and how to avoid tripping off alarms. Maturity is something that comes from growing after experiences in life.

  • Why keep it visible?
    Learning from others mistakes that you don't already see by seeing the post reported. Undermined by the abuse or mistaken use of the report feature.

  • Why remove from public view?
    Draws non-moderator attention to the reported post.
    There are so many features on this site that do this it is hardly unique.

    However, the majority of this issue was addressed by removing the comments portion of a report from public view. I do not see a huge benefit from keeping or removing the mod queue, but not putting a report label on a post is pointless and will also encourage more people to try and report the same offencive material.



    • Jun 06, 07 at 2:05pm
    Kat Bide

    Ok, but I fail to fin the connection between that, and the mod queue.



    Jun 05, 07 at 9:48pm
    ntropydude

    Some people might not consider asking why a post was reported to be useless.

    Maybe this thread is a good thread to use to see what I mean. The thread shouldn't have been made originally, since it doesn't deal with the game, but the member didn't know. Then, the spam about reported posts was all based on overreaction, they didn't think the posts were useless. Then some people like myself and Enigma were trying to answer the questions answered in the thread. It's a different form of spam than deliberate spam, but can still get just as bad, as you can see.



    Jun 05, 07 at 9:19pm
    Justin Time

    Yes but stating it specifically will help, since some people may not think of it as spam if they include a question of why the were reported as a side note to a normal post.



    Jun 05, 07 at 9:08pm
    Chaos Swordsman

    quote ntropydude
    there isn't a clear definition of what spam is.
    quote Post Deletion Message
    Your forum post re: Only one left has been deleted due to breaking Rule 9 of the Forumwide Rules of Conduct, Etiquette and Acceptable Behavior, which states:
    quote Sitewide Rules
    Do not spam. Under no circumstances are you allowed to spam anywhere, within any Forum on Neoseeker. If you are caught spamming any forum, you will be in trouble!
    Please heed this as a reminder to abide by the rules. Spam, useless posts, and posts that are filled with garbage content are NOT tolerated on the site. If you continue to post double Spam or Useless posts you can face possible probation or banning at a moderator's discretion for blatant disregard of the rules.
    While it may not be published in the sitewide rules, there is in fact a clear definition of what spam is that exists on the site.

    quote Justin Time
    So if we add a no discussing on why your post was reported it will probably lower the already low instances.
    When has discussion over a reported post actually been on topic in a forum? It hasn't. It's already covered in rule number nine, since it is normally classified as spam.



    Jun 05, 07 at 9:08pm
    Justin Time

    Yea, rules aren't useless. Sure people go against the rules sometimes, but them being there means less people break them.

    If we took away the spamming rule more people would spam.

    So if we add a no discussing on why your post was reported it will probably lower the already low instances.

    And noobs will most likely see more rightfuly reported posts then wrongfully reported ones so it balances out.



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