OK this might be a bit long but please bear with me...
Me and my friend (Wyvern Armor Zero) have talked about this subject a bit. Think of the three prhophets:
Truth Regret Mercy
Now Truth was the only one who lived. We all know that there is a very good chance that the prophets knew all along what the Halo really is. When the Brutes figured out they still went on. Obviously there is a higher reason for them to do that. But only one that would benefit the Prophet of Truth and the Brutes. Consider this...
Is it by chance that the Elites "betrayed" the Prophets. We all know they didn't deserve to all die. The prophets might have done it for a different reason. The prophets killed the Heretics extremely fast. But by the time their word had spread, it was too late. So they made an excuse to bring down the Elites and everyone else who knew. The Brutes however were not brought down. Everyone knew what the Halo did. Obviously the Brutes and the prophets wanted it to happen.
But what about the prophets?
Think of their names again:
Regret: Wouldn't you regret wiping out all life? Mercy: Wouldn't you show mercy to innocent beings?
That brings us to Truth. There must be something more to the Halo. A truth that no one else knows of. A truth that gives a reason to destroy all life, including themselves. But only a reason good enough for Truth, not for anyone else. Why would he fire on Delta Halo while one of the prophets were there? Why would he even leave him there? Why would the prophet leave behind the most valuable Covenant asset when he could've simply removed the infection off of him? Religious? I think not. He wanted both of them dead.
The prophet of Truth wants everyone who would stand in his way dead. This includes everyone except the Brutes. The Brutes are either given a "piece of the pie" with the prophet of Truth. They know they die, but they are still doing it. There must have been a greater reason. One that would only seem legitimate to the prophet of Truth and to the Brutes. Either A: the Brutes are suicidal or B: the Brutes have an agreement with the Prophet of Truth. But in the end the prophet of Truth etrayed the Brutes. That is where I am confused.
All of this is quite confusing but just think about it and please post back.
Thread Recap (last 10 posts from newest to oldest)
May 18, 05 at 8:27pm
IBHunter
Yeah I have the subtitles on and I did understand it a bit better. But the thread is mainly about how the Prophets could be against each other. Just because they said something doesn't mean that there isn't something behind their words. Not everything is what it seems to be.
May 17, 05 at 11:28pm
Lehvak80
It's used as a last resort for flood infestation prevention
the game says exactly "Weapons of last resort built by the Forerunners to eliminate potential Flood hosts, thereby rendering the parasite harmless."
This message was edited by Lehvak80 on May 17 2005.
May 17, 05 at 11:10pm
Dawgsta
quote Hank228
Actually. Nobody DOES know what the Halos do, except the Arbiter, the "Oracle", The Elites, Truth and the humans. The Brutes do NOT know about what Halo does. And yes, the Elites were betrayed because of them finding out about what Halo really is. The Arbiter tries to explain to Tartarus about what it does, but he's so thick headed, he doesn't listen.
I dont even know what the Halo is.I think its a planet,or a super gun(mentioned in game 1 time).The oracle DOES know what halo "does".
May 17, 05 at 10:04pm
Lehvak80
The story is about the Great Journey. The great journey is salvation. It is a believed Utopia. When Truth lets Mercy be attacked by the flood, he saw it as a sign that Prophet Mercy was unworthy. The Brutes continuing to activate Halo was the obediance of the Prophets. They felt that now they were part of the great journey and replaced the Elites. They also let the Brutes take over because they felt unsafe with the Elites after the descruction of the first Halo and the humans landing on the second and the Honor Gaurd failing to protect Regret.
Heresy is the act of betraying a belief or religion. Heretics are the people and followers of the person who caused Heresey. ANyone who was against using Halo was condemed of Heresy and attacked by the Brutes. The Arbiter is the higest elite rank and the others believed what he said after the Oracle told Halo's purpose and when the Brutes were told to kill the Arbiter by the prophets.
The Covenant labels the humans as "demons" if some haven't understood what the grunts talk about. You could put on the subtitles to understand the story better. Thats what I did.
This message was edited by Lehvak80 on May 17 2005.
May 17, 05 at 7:56pm
Ironraven
As soon as the level starts, i shoot the body of the dead prophet, just to make sure.
May 17, 05 at 7:32pm
IBHunter
He said the prophet of truth and mercy, not about regret. But regret might as well be dead- he looked basiclly terminal and could barely even speak. However the prophet of mercy died, you even killed him. Truth was the only one who actually "lives."
May 16, 05 at 10:34pm
Ironraven
The prophet of regret(the one you fight) does not die. He just gets captured by gravemind.
May 16, 05 at 10:30pm
IBHunter
quote halomaniac
Acaullaly the prophet of truth and mercy survived.
If your going to start posting, at least watch the cutscenes. Both of them show, quite obviously, the death of both Prophets. One you even fight as a sort of "boss" and the other you see die in a cutscene. All the time, you- Master Chief- are there.
I am not explaining anymore of the cutscenes. You have the game, so get the competence to talk about it instead of lieing.
May 16, 05 at 12:06am
Codester
quote Fifth Column
I think you're overthinking a pretty shitty storyline that has a lot less depth to it than you think.
*applauds*
May 15, 05 at 10:48pm
halomaniac
quote HaloAddict
you mean that he's still alive, just that he's one of Gravemind's things? No offense, just making sure.
He's one of graveminds thing.
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