Recently, several people have made observations about threads going off topic. In most cases, these observations have been correct.
One of the leading causes of tangent-trips has been discussion about venomous species. I have already plead guilty as an accessory to the crime, since I have replied to many of these questions/comments.
Let's try to keep discussion of venomous species in this thread. By so doing, we can talk about snakes, spiders, scorpions, centipedes, millipedes and others without worrying about going off-topic. We can even include the animals (like some frogs and fish) that are poisonous although not technically venomous.
Hope this turns out to be helpful.
This message was edited by Keiichi on Apr 05 2004.
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Oct 04, 10 at 1:07am
Naked Snak3
No one is trying to put you down, but when it comes to giving advice you need to be absolutely sure that your information is correct. Wiki is not all that credible and an elementary school science teacher may not know the difference between venomous and poisonous. In any case, next time, maybe you should put a little disclaimer at the end of your post. Let people know that you believe the information is true, but that you are no 100% sure. Always, take the time to do the proper research and encourage people to do their own research as well.
Oct 03, 10 at 6:41pm
blackbeautyfan9819
Well then, everyone; bag on me when I'm trying to help you. Seriously, I got that off of Wiki when I wrote it. My science teacher said all snakes are poisonous, -but not always to HUMANS.
No, I'm not an expert on snakes, but I got all that info from reliable resources. I tried my absolute best.
Come on people! Don't you have better things to do than to correct other peoples' mistakes? I'm 11, so give me a break. xD
Aug 09, 10 at 10:04pm
Keiichi
In the case of the larger Crotalids and Vipers, yes. The two Diamondback species are large enough to deliver a fatal bite. The Mojave Rattlesnake and Cascabel are neurotoxic and capable of killing a human. Other than that, the Crotalids are pretty much sub-lethal. Of course, that doesn't mean they can't do an awful lot of damage.
In the case of elapids, the Mambas and King Cobra are certainly the most dangerous, and their size is a major factor in that distinction. Keep in mind, however, that many of the Australian elapids and the sea snakes have much more powerful venom, but inflict very few bites.
Aug 09, 10 at 9:32pm
the_REAL_zwarrior
It makes sense if you think about it. Elapids have smaller, fixed fangs in the front and therefore, their venom delivery method is a little bit less efficient as say the Crotalids(Usually, The Black Mamba and the King Cobra being two Elapids who can inject massive ammounts of venom).
The Crotalids have longer fangs, and larger venom glands, and generally rely on the ammount of venom they inject to subdue and begin digesting their prey. So while they are not as toxic in general as the Elapids, they make up for it in venom yield.
I don't know if this has already been said, but I'm going to clear it up right now:
People say that some snakes are poisonous, and some aren't. that is false. All snakes are poisonous. The reason they say that? It's because they do not understand that humans are immune to certain venom. Some snakes are venomous, and some aren't. Here are some pictures of venomous snakes:
I would also like to tell you how to spot venomous from non-venomous.
Venomous= Usually has vibrant colors, stripes, cat-like eyes, and has their fangs sticking out, ready to use. Non-Venomous= oval/circle eyes, dull coloring, and a solid color. There is not a definite way to tell venomous from non-venomous, but there are some signs above. Here are some pictures of non-venomous snakes:
BBF: You haven't cleared up anything. If fact, nearly everything you have stated is incorrect.
1. - No snake is poisonous. All can be eaten, provided the venom mechanism is completely removed from the flesh to be eaten. That's as easy as severing the head.
2. - Humans are not immune to snake venoms, although a fortunate few can build up a certain degree of tolerance.
3. - Of the nearly 2,700 taxonomically identified species, slightly fewer than 300 are venomous. Of these, fewer than 50 are legitimately dangerous to humans.
4. - Many non-venomous snakes have beautifully vibrant colors, and the majority of venomous snakes have subdued colors. Color is largely based on environment, not venom capacity.
5. - No snake has its fang "sticking out, ready to use". Fangs are fragile and are contained in protective sheaths when not in use, particularly among the vipers and pit vipers, who fold their fangs against the roof of their mouths.
6. - The most dangerous of venomous snakes belong to the family elapidae, nearly all of which are long, cylindrical snakes with round pupils and indistinct heads. The 'cat-like' elliptical pupil is a feature of vipers, pit vipers and lance-heads, the majority of which are sub-lethal snakes.
Before you attempt to set anything else straight, I would suggest you spend a little time in the books rather than on-line; say about 30 years. Your knowledge of venomous snakes is sorely lacking.
There is Coral Snake FDA approved Antivenom, but due to the rarity of bites, they were not making a profit, so in 2003 they stopped making the vials.
The remaining vials will expire by the end of 2010.
So in 2011 there will be no anti-venom although, if the company makes it again, it will still be FDA approved.
That kinda sucks that there isn't an ani-venom. Luckily, I don't live where coral snakes are.
Aug 08, 10 at 10:48pm
Saul
Another wiki article edited by a retard.
There is Coral Snake FDA approved Antivenom, but due to the rarity of bites, they were not making a profit, so in 2003 they stopped making the vials.
The remaining vials will expire by the end of 2010.
So in 2011 there will be no anti-venom although, if the company makes it again, it will still be FDA approved.
Aug 08, 10 at 10:03pm
the_REAL_zwarrior
Ok, so i'm reading wiki, apparently there is not currently an FDA approved anti venom for Coral Snake bite. Is this true? And if that's teh case, wtf does one do if you happen to be bitten by a coral snake?
Granted given their nature, Coral Snakes are more likely to flee then defend, but even still.
Aug 08, 10 at 8:45pm
blackbeautyfan9819
I don't know if this has already been said, but I'm going to clear it up right now:
People say that some snakes are poisonous, and some aren't. that is false. All snakes are poisonous. The reason they say that? It's because they do not understand that humans are immune to certain venom. Some snakes are venomous, and some aren't. Here are some pictures of venomous snakes:
I would also like to tell you how to spot venomous from non-venomous.
Venomous= Usually has vibrant colors, stripes, cat-like eyes, and has their fangs sticking out, ready to use. Non-Venomous= oval/circle eyes, dull coloring, and a solid color. There is not a definite way to tell venomous from non-venomous, but there are some signs above. Here are some pictures of non-venomous snakes:
