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Jul 08, 03 at 10:02pmSniper


This thread will have many guitat tips like how to handle your guitar,clean your guitar and any other information I find need to post here. Some of these tips are off other websites some are written by me. Almost are tips are mine. If they are not mine I will edit them to fit neoseeker or beginners.

Tip 1 - How to tune your guitar -- Tuning your guitar is probably the most basic, but most important thing you should do before playing your guitar. Its probably easiest to just buy a guitar tuner, they cost about $15 - $20 and they're really the quick and easy way to tune your guitar with near 100% accuracy. However, if you don't have a guitar tuner and you want to tune your guitar, here is the method that I use...there are many others, but I find this to be the easiest to understand.

We start at the 6th string, this is the fattest string on your guitar, and when played open its an E note. You will need either a harmonica, pitch pipe, tuning fork, or any other instrument so you can hear the note. All you do is turn the tuning peg until the note on the guitar sounds like the E note that you've just played. Once you have that first note you proceed in an orderly manner tuning one string after another. Press down on the 5th fret of the 6th string...then play the 5th string open. The 6th string with the 5th fret pressed down is the same note as the 5th string played open. Turn the tuning peg until the 5th string sounds like the 6th string with the 5th fret depressed.

Now the pattern continues and you press down the 5th fret on the 5th string...then play the 4th string open. Once again, tune until these two notes sound the same. Then move onto the next string...Press down on the 5th fret of the 4th string and tune the 3rd string to this note. Once you get to the third string there is a different pattern...you press down on the 4th fret of the 3rd string and then tune the 2nd string to this note. Finally you press down the 5th fret of the 2nd string and tune the open 1st string to this note.

There you have it, a tuned guitar, as a sidenote, you can tune your guitar without having the 6th string in tune with E...this just will mean that your guitar is in tune with itself, but you would need to tune it to the E if you wanted to play with other musicians.

This is also called standard tuning [E A D G B E] and is used by most guitarists, however, this is not the only way to tune your guitar. You can tune it in any variety of ways...but for the beginner this is the tuning that you'll most likely always use.

But I highly recommened an auto tuner.


Tip 2 - Cleaning your guitar - Cleaning your guitar is on of the most important things you can do to insure a long life of the finish. There are many different methods of cleaning your guitar out there but mind you, your guitar is made of wood. And wood as it dries becomes more resonate to sound. If you think of using waxes or polishes then you should reconsider this. As in using such products as funiture polish and other household items, this will eventually penetrate the finish and may or may harm the wood.

I suggest using just a real damp cloth or chamois to polish the finish of the guitar body. A VERY DAMP CLOTH!! Because as water sets it will harm or even warp certain areas.

I've heard of people using a drop or two of Almond oil on the fretboard but I don't know about this. But I suggest using a very fine steel wool and lightly going over the fretboard to remove any oil that might be attributed to sweat.

Every person has their own unique body chemistry and some peoples sweat may contain more sweat than others. So what I suggest is after each time you play your guitar, you wipe the strings to remove anything that might inhibit oxidation. As in time as strings get old they lose their abilitly to retain intonation and tune. So just get in the habit of wiping . And when your not playing your guitar might I suggest keeping your guitar in it's case. Since this is what is made for and is a lot better than just leaving it propped up in some corner of your house.

Mind you that there are different ways and methods out there for cleaning your guitar and if you are in doubt, contact a professional. They might have some special cleaners out there such as,"Martin Guitar Polish".

I have heard many things you can do to help clean your guitar and most of them work. Try testing things.


Tip 3 - Changing your strings - I've played just about all types of strings. From heavy guage to extra light guages. You know as well as I there are a lot of different name brand strings out there for you to chose from. The best thing I can tell you from experience, is to find a brand that your most comfortable with and stay with them.

It is not a good idea, after you set the intonation, to keep changing different guages of strings. For example if you used to playing a light guage set of strings and you change over to a heavy guage set, the intonation WILL NOT be the same, and your guitar won't be intune all over the neck.

It is also hard to say how to put on your strings because almost every kind of guitar is strung differnetly. So, my advice is go to your local music store or just look at your guitar and see how to put on the strings. It's really not that hard.


You all may request tips and I will do my best to write them for you.

Note:] I am not a 6 string guitar player. I know nothing really except the tuning. I know loads more about bass. But me and my friend sat down and started getting ideas of helping beginners. But I do know alot of guitars so please ask.


[color=#666666]This message was edited by Abused Child on Jul 09 2003.


This message was edited by FortePenance(moderator) on Aug 05 2007.

Thread Recap (last 10 posts from newest to oldest)

Dec 10, 12 at 5:46pm
person_47


If you're still looking to record dude (haven't read all the responses) but I see Fender Mustang series amps everywhere and they are real cheap (175 for a 20w) and you don't need much for recording. It has a mini-USB output and comes with basic recording software that you can separate and loop with other sounds on protools or whatever you're using. They don't sound great when you are playing them unplugged from comp but when you jack that bitch into a comp you can make it do what-ever-the-hell-you-want and there are so many settings to screw with I haven't even scratched the surface.

Edit: IMO I'd drop the extra 40 bucks for the 30w it's a significant difference in sound and that way you can use it as a portable practice amp too.

Edit edit: there's also a decent Marshall acoustic amp that has a special mic jack so you can use it for whatever. By mic jack I mean the pro quality mics that use that real wonky looking input.



May 23, 12 at 6:50am
Tom


ChiroVette Late response, I know, but I never get the chance to come on here any more.

I've been doing a bit of experimentation and I've found that line-outs just don't give me the full bodied sound that I'm after, as has been said on here. I might give mixing the two signals a try, since I'm using it for recording, and experiment with the levels on the master track to see if I can find a balance that I like. I do like the sound that it's producing in that video; it seems to sound very natural (you'd be surprised about how far my music taste ranges).




May 08, 12 at 10:57am
ChiroVette


Tom, when it comes to guitars, whether acoustic or electric, I have always been a huge proponent of micing the amp rather than going direct from the amp. Although, I have a pretty elaborate PA system (crown power amps, JBL front end and JBL wedge monitors and a Soundcraft Spirit Folio mixer) and of late, I have been experimenting with using a blend of the line out form the amp to the PA (via 1/4 inch guitar cables) and micing the amp. I then blend the two signals, putting the signal from the microphone higher. This is only a viable solution, however, if you have channels to spare on your board and feel like running your guitar in a more elaborate way.

By the way, I would NOT ever recommend this for electric guitar because the line out sucks on amps and the "direct out" is terrible on an electric amp for the reason that one of the primary components of an electric guitar's sound comes from the amp speakers and bypassing this just leads to a God-awful tone!

The reason it works all right with an acoustic amp is because in an acoustic guitar amplifier, the "direct out" is made to simulate a direct box, which, by the way, is another GREAT solution for using an acoustic guitar with a PA system because it eliminates the need for an amp. However, since I love the sound of the Marshal Acoustic soloists I own, I vastly prefer it over a direct box because I have control over my sound via the amp (all the tone controls, anti-feedback, parametric EQ, etc.) without having to keep going to the mixer every time I want to fuss with my sound.

Anyway, even though I prefer the sound of the amp sent to the mixer with a mic, it is nice to be able to mix the two in two separate channels as I get a nice stereo effect that way.

I did an impromptu gig, a pretty high paying private party, a few months back with my female vocalist and recorded a bunch of tracks just this way. I have the guitar amp running in stereo here like I described. She isn't playing guitar on this tune, but you can hear the clarity of everything with the PA and the way I am amplifying the guitar at least.

Probably not your kind of music, but it illustrates my point:





May 08, 12 at 9:44am
Tom


Thanks both Will Baxter and ChiroVette, you've both been a great help. I've been thinking and I'm probably going to wind up going for the Marshall acoustic that I saw and putting a mic to it rather than using the line out. It seems like the best option; plus then I have a mic for any vocalist that I might collaborate with.



May 01, 12 at 8:13am
ChiroVette


quote Tom
Got a couple of quick questions about recording an electro-acoustic and amps. I'm used to playing, just not used to recording.

1) I don't normally record, but I'm looking at doing a bit of a mash-up project with a friend and need to get some stuff recorded onto my computer. I have an electro-acoustic with the lead for an amp (although I don't actually have an amp, because the only place I play in public has a PA system for me to use anyway, but I'm now thinking of investing in my own amp) and I also have a lead with an amp/guitar jack on one end and a 3.5mm headphone/microphone jack on the other end, but of course plugging the guitar directly into the computer creates a horrible sound. So what's the best way I can get a good quality recording without spending too much (aside from putting a microphone up to an amp; I'd much rather plug and record)?

2) Since I've never needed an amp before now, and I'm now looking at in investing in one. I've seen a beautiful Marshall acoustic amp that I very much desire. But at the same time I've got to think practically. I know that whilst you can use electric guitars on acoustic amps and vice versa, the sound quality isn't great because they're built specifically for either electric or acoustic guitars respectively. So I was wondering if there are amps that can kill two birds with one stone that will work perfectly well for both electric and acoustic guitars (maybe with like different modes depending on what kind of guitar you're using)? And again, if it can be used to record (i.e. hooking up to the line out or something), that would be even better because it would answer my first dilemma too.

I would say I have a budget of up to £300, so up to about $500.

I know it seems like I have no idea what I'm talking about, and you'd be right. I play. Someone else does the plugging and sound checking for me.

I have a vintage Marshal Soloist Acoustic Amp from the Nineties which is really nice, and if you can pick one up used (they aren't made anymore) I highly recommend one. I have two of them actually (lol long story) and now I just formed an acoustic duo as a side project with the female vocalist in my band and so I am letting her use one of the amps for her acoustic guitar and I use one for mine.

If you can pick one of these up from somewhere, I think they are awesome. They have built in reverb and a really nice chorus. In addition, it comes with a nice parametric EQ (simplistic, but decent) and what I love most about it is that it has four "feedback control" buttons, which really helps with amplifying an acoustic guitar because they feedback like a mother*bleep*er.

If you are going to go this route, either with the amp I have or the Marshal you are looking at, make sure that you mic the amp. I am just NOT a big fan of he line our or direct out in acoustic amps. They sound better than taking a line out from an electric amp, but still lack that full bodied flavor of an acoustic guitar. Again, mic the amp!



May 01, 12 at 8:00am
Will Baxter


Yeah Tom, haha, we go way back!

Try looking into a Blue Snowball microphone. They record very, very well and probably the best USB operated microphone. Although personally I've never used one, I know they have great attention to detail and record brilliant! Not too sure how much you're intending on paying, but it's a good option if that fits your price.



Apr 30, 12 at 5:05pm
Tom


Well well, Will Baxter, long time no see...

My laptop has an HD microphone, so it picks up the guitar quite well. Unfortunately, that also means it picks up me scratching my backside, and there can be a bit of a quality problem when I pick up the dynamics for a chorus and I'm putting more body into my strumming, which is why I'm considering a direct plug-in. I'm using Adobe Soundbooth and Audacity for my editing so that's no problem, but I'm thinking a microphone may be the way to end up going. There are plenty of places around here that I can browse around, and hope I can find something that does what I need, and maybe I could find something perfect.

As for an amp that does both electric and acoustic, I'm not ruling out the option of getting more than one amp; I think I was just being optimistic about not having to clog the house up with too much equipment. Although if they haven't invented an amp that does everything well, then they should.




Apr 30, 12 at 10:56am
Will Baxter


Tom

I'm not too sure with regards to recording. The only one I can recommend is Audacity which isn't too bad if you have a OK mic on your computer / laptop. I'm rather lucky, however, as my amp comes with software which I can get USB to plug into my amp and record that way, and it produces pretty good quality (I have a Fender Mustang amp, in case you were wondering). Due to the really bad quality of computer microphones, I'd assume there's be no real way of getting a nice, clean sound recorded directly from your computer. Your best bet would be to invest in a good microphone and record it that way. Just realize you get what you pay for in audio quality.

As for an amp, I'd assume if you wanted something to play both electric and acoustic to get an amp which can produce nice clean tones. It's difficult because if you like metal for example, you're going to want an amp good at distortion, but that can be tricky if you also want to play acoustic on the same amp. I know that some acoustic amps can produce pleasantly surprising electric guitar tones, although I do know they can lack the jangly sound you get from an electric as it's too clean. I would advise you to consider the Marshall amp if you really want it. It may be pushing the budget, but let me re-iterate, you get what you pay for. The only other acoustic amp that springs to mind is a Fender Acoustasonic. I haven't heard much about it, but it's the only one I can think of as I've never looked at acoustic amps



Apr 28, 12 at 7:07am
Tom


Got a couple of quick questions about recording an electro-acoustic and amps. I'm used to playing, just not used to recording.

1) I don't normally record, but I'm looking at doing a bit of a mash-up project with a friend and need to get some stuff recorded onto my computer. I have an electro-acoustic with the lead for an amp (although I don't actually have an amp, because the only place I play in public has a PA system for me to use anyway, but I'm now thinking of investing in my own amp) and I also have a lead with an amp/guitar jack on one end and a 3.5mm headphone/microphone jack on the other end, but of course plugging the guitar directly into the computer creates a horrible sound. So what's the best way I can get a good quality recording without spending too much (aside from putting a microphone up to an amp; I'd much rather plug and record)?

2) Since I've never needed an amp before now, and I'm now looking at in investing in one. I've seen a beautiful Marshall acoustic amp that I very much desire. But at the same time I've got to think practically. I know that whilst you can use electric guitars on acoustic amps and vice versa, the sound quality isn't great because they're built specifically for either electric or acoustic guitars respectively. So I was wondering if there are amps that can kill two birds with one stone that will work perfectly well for both electric and acoustic guitars (maybe with like different modes depending on what kind of guitar you're using)? And again, if it can be used to record (i.e. hooking up to the line out or something), that would be even better because it would answer my first dilemma too.

I would say I have a budget of up to £300, so up to about $500.

I know it seems like I have no idea what I'm talking about, and you'd be right. I play. Someone else does the plugging and sound checking for me.




Oct 12, 10 at 8:46pm
animalunleashed


Can I ask what your budget is?

To be honest the kits shown are fairly cheap and cheerful but you've picked drum companies with an actual reputation as opposed to a toy shop knock off which is a massive plus. If your living in a built up area i suggest this electric.

http://www.drumshop.co.uk/product.php?id=5433

Ive played and gigged this kit before and for an electric kit it is quite satisfying to play



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