quote Praetorian_LordThat is a very realistic scenario and in principal I fully agree. So do the smal scale experiment. Get your results. DONT F***ING PUBLISH THEM! And do the full scale experiment isolating more variables along the way.hiigaran, KR_1250 - this is the way science works 99% of the time:
You walk into a research grant office and tell them you want some money to do a study on the effect of playing violent video games on sleep. You tell them you want $100k so that you can recruit (how many? Is there a magical number before you guys will be happy it's enough?) participants. They ask you what other studies have been done in the field. You tell them none. They laugh you out of the office. Why? Because no-one's going to fund a large-scale study without expecting some interesting results out of sheer scientific curiosity. If they recruited 500 gamers over three years and found nothing interesting, it would have been a colossal waste of time and money that they'll never get back.
The solution? Do a small-scale exploratory study (*cough cough like this one*) to see if there's anything worthy of investigation. Lo and behold they found an effect with just 17 people, which if you multiply it out to the population at large might be indicative of a serious problem. So now when they go into the research grant office, they can say hey! We found something interesting but want to test gender effects, violent versus non-violent games, etc. and the funders actually have something concrete for a precident.
quoteYeah i have no issue with the results at all. They dont really factor into my life and dont seem wildly unexpeted.So actually, this has been taken completely out of context and if anything it's fairly positive news for gamers since you can seemingly play for up to 50 minutes will no ill-effects. The only difference is that now there's some evidence in favour of the idea that playing games for more than 50 minutes before you go to bed isn't the best idea if you want to sleep soundly. No shit, I hear you say. Well at least this is proof which can (a) justify future research and (b) serve as a reference point for all those naysayers who want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend there's nothing wrong with their behaviour.
quoteIn that respect again i agree. I still think that if this study was suggested as an exploratory one then they should have kept the results private until a more comprehensive study has been done. These results are just too limited to be of any real interest for me. I have also had so many sleep issues in the past that could have affected a study like this so were i particepating i'd want far more variables tested.17 participants for a study like this is about right, don't confuse experiments with non-experiments (there are actually very few of the former in any field). Non-experimental studies aren't about controlling every single variable, they're about taking as many relevant ones into account as you can so that when it comes to analysis or reporting you can say exactly how and why your findings are limited. If the conclusion was something like 'Therefore, violent video games before bed cause you to lose sleep' then yeah, you've got a point - but I guarantee you it was something more like 'Therefore, an effect was found for Australian teenage boys which is unsurprising but potentially worrying, and warrants further investigation'. Which is spot on.
quote Sonic Flashlol yeahAnyone who has gamed too recently or too much before bed can confirm this, leading me to wonder why and how people are giving them money to do research on painfully obvious things.
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