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Jul 26, 12 at 9:23amAjax


Now, I'm a bartender, but even before serving drinks I noticed something.


I believe that alcohol doesn't affect people nearly as much as we think. Our mindset plays a very big part of it.

I've noticed people go from being pretty sober to drunk in the span of 2 minutes just after saying the words "Am I drunk. I'm drunk aren't I". Now I know that it can take a shot ten seconds to reach the blood stream on an empty stomach, but still.




The second part of this is the choices people make while drunk. My personal philosophy is drunken words are sober thoughts, and alcohol just emphasises your normal personality.

If you're loud normally, you're going to be obnoxiously loud drunk, if you're like me and are fairly chill sober, you're going to be similar to me and be a really mellow drunk.

If you're loose sexually while drunk, chances are you're loose sober too, but the alcohol just gives you the courage to go through with it, without inhibitions.


Now, the choices people make and the words. "I'm sorry, I was drunk." are absolute bullshit in my eyes. Being drunk isn't an excuse for cheating, or upsetting someone, or fighting. People just use it as one. They'd do all of those things completely sober if they had an excuse as to why ('I was drunk') and more courage to go through with it.



What are everyone else's thoughts?

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Aug 06, 12 at 10:29pm
Roy


That's true when your a bartender or even a mixologist, you come across a sorts of inebriated people. You will find out how they interact with others and their actions and verbal messages amongst one another.



Aug 05, 12 at 9:26pm
Cashis


quote Praetorian_Lord
That can largely be explained by dosage effects. In small amounts it removes inhibitions, in larger amounts it can have any number of different effects. Alcohol's actually one of the few substances which can reliably penetrate the blood-brain barrier, which is basically your brain's last line of defence against blood-borne infections. Meaning it can get in where few other drugs can, and wreak havoc with any and every part of it - including your reasoning centres. Your behaviour might then make perfect sense to you at the time even if it's in direct contrast with how you'd normally behave. So no, it doesn't have to be a simple extension of your usual personality.

Everything else you've said is about right though. I think your experience as a bartender gives you more of an insight into the social nature of drinking behaviour than its actual biological and psychological effects.
Cheers for this. Rather insightful.

I've gone off alcohol. As part of my weight-loss carb-free diet I removed alcohol for just under a couple of months and I don't miss lying around in bed throughout the following day feeling sorry for myself one bit. Went out twice in the past few days and it was ok but meh, it's a lot better as a one-off treat every once a month for example.



Aug 04, 12 at 7:44am
PEStar


I spent two weeks constantly drinking last month on holiday for the first time in my life, and I can honestly say I remember about 40% of the holiday.

While I agree being drunk is a poor excuse for some things, sometimes, you are literally so drunk you have no control over yourself, which is why you see people vomiting while drunk, falling over, sleeping. We lose our natural inhibitions which are to keep ourselves safe and free of danger.

I love alcohol, and I love what it does to me. Makes a lot of people do things they wouldn't do sober, whether good or bad. They all contribute to an experience.



Aug 03, 12 at 9:05am
Roy


quote Ben73
I don't get it when people say "last night was so fun, I can't rememeber anything"
Seriously how was it fun if you don't remember.
I never have drank so much I couldn't remember the night before. Sure I forget parts but overall I remember most things.

So that either means I have never been drunk, or alcohol doesn't effect my memory much. Because there have been times where I have felt quite drunk but still remember it the next day.
Maybe the experience of forgetting or blacking out. It is sort of tongue and cheek, but maybe they are just crazy.



Aug 02, 12 at 11:11pm
Chelskiman


quote Ben73
I don't get it when people say "last night was so fun, I can't rememeber anything"
Seriously how was it fun if you don't remember.
I think most people say that tongue in cheek in all honesty. I know I do.



Aug 02, 12 at 6:01pm
Ben73


I don't get it when people say "last night was so fun, I can't rememeber anything"
Seriously how was it fun if you don't remember.
I never have drank so much I couldn't remember the night before. Sure I forget parts but overall I remember most things.

So that either means I have never been drunk, or alcohol doesn't effect my memory much. Because there have been times where I have felt quite drunk but still remember it the next day.



Aug 02, 12 at 8:01am
Rome


quote Chelskiman
Nobody said the people who drink alcohol can't have fun without it, what a massive generalisation that was, considering you don't know anyone here irl. I drink a lot, and I've had fun many times sober. Drinking is a social past time. People have been gathering together for years to have a drink. Is it needed to have fun? No, it's not, but it certainly enhances it when you're with a group of people you know.
That's not a generalization. I've met scores of people who seem alright and fun, but I can never hang out with them because anything and everything they do involves getting drunk, and there's not one thing I can do with them that calls for sobriety. I'm pretty sure he had specific instances in mind, of which there are many.



Aug 01, 12 at 10:59pm
haalyle


I've seen my dad really drunk.
I remember two occasions when he was drunk.
He came home when we were all awake and he cooked omelette's with chili in them, I didn't even have it.
He fell over twice, first when he was getting a pan and then when he was calling us to have dinner, he fell right near my door and I just walked over him.

Second time: He kept turning on the PS2 randomly, making everyone wake up and he left the disc tray open...then he slept with his mouth open.

People do really weird stuff when their drunk, just the other night he forced me to eat a Tim-Tam and have a cup of tea and was having ago at my partner while playing online, saying he could do better.



Aug 01, 12 at 10:37pm
Chelskiman


quote captain boo
Virtually all of my friends do, though, but that's normal. I have an irrational hate of the substance for the lives it costs us for both accidents and as alcohol in itself is a poison. I dislike how it often changes people for the worst and the excuses it gives people, when they're not excuses at all. I also detest the dependence some people have on it for every social occasion. It's simply mind blowing how fun cannot initiate itself without alcohol in some people's eyes. But these are often the same people with the winning hypothesis that if they overindulge and their memory is wiped from severe brain dehydration, they must've had a heck of a good time.

Logic. Cannot Comprehend.

Lol. It's not the alcohols fault that somebody got killed in an accident. It's the person who decided to get into the car knowing he/she was drunk. You don't see a bottle of alcohol going on trial for killing people. As I said before, it isn't the alcohol people should blame, it's the person drinking it. And sure it's poison, in large amounts, which basically everything is. I don't smoke, but I'm not going to go around claiming smoking is the devil's work and it causes lung cancer.

Nobody said the people who drink alcohol can't have fun without it, what a massive generalisation that was, considering you don't know anyone here irl. I drink a lot, and I've had fun many times sober. Drinking is a social past time. People have been gathering together for years to have a drink. Is it needed to have fun? No, it's not, but it certainly enhances it when you're with a group of people you know.



Aug 01, 12 at 9:18pm
captain boo


I've never touched the stuff, myself. And the future is not looking like that's going to change.

Virtually all of my friends do, though, but that's normal. I have an irrational hate of the substance for the lives it costs us for both accidents and as alcohol in itself is a poison. I dislike how it often changes people for the worst and the excuses it gives people, when they're not excuses at all. I also detest the dependence some people have on it for every social occasion. It's simply mind blowing how fun cannot initiate itself without alcohol in some people's eyes. But these are often the same people with the winning hypothesis that if they overindulge and their memory is wiped from severe brain dehydration, they must've had a heck of a good time.

Logic. Cannot Comprehend.





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