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Jul 03, 12 at 10:27pmMister MacPhisto


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Seems we're getting relaunches and new books galore over Q4 of 2012 and Q1 of 2013.

Supposedly calling it the NEWER 53! didn't test well.

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Aug 09, 12 at 5:54am
Darknet


Like the new 52, I'm having a hard time understanding what the hell this is. Perhaps I should just do the same thing with the new 52 and not think about it lol

In some small way, I think Marvel and DC didn't know exactly what the hell this stuff is



Aug 08, 12 at 7:35am
Mister MacPhisto


quote newsarama.com
Green, Indestructible, yup, that Marvel NOW! teaser was in fact the Hulk written by Mark Waid and drawn by Leinil Yu. Interestingly though, the Indestructible Hulk is the actual title, with the first issue hitting November 2012 as part of the Marvel NOW! relaunch at Marvel Comics.

In a first interview with CBR, Waid and Yu talked about their plans for the green goliath and his alter ego Bruce Banner, saying it started with Waid "fantasizing about what it would be like to take the core concept a little more "back to center" like we did with Daredevil." That means more superheroics for the strongest there is, but it's also more of a philisophical shift for Bruce Banner, as he takes "a whole new, less "woe is me" view of his condition," continued Waid.


The duo plans to focus specifically on Bruce and Hulk to start off, leaving the other gamma-irradatiated characters to the side for the time being. Jeff Parker's Red She-Hulk may crossover in the future, however, when Waid eventually explores Bruce coming "to grips with what he's wrought" by introducing the idea of gamma powered rage giants into the Marvel Universe.

For now? Hulk will actually be staying outside of his normal boundaries. The main supporting character alongside Bruce Banner is Maria Hill, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., who will be joined by a new cast of scientists as Bruce heads back to science.

"Maria Hill and Bruce Banner are the main players in the series, and their Byzantine relationship is both funny and dark and they're a blast to write as a quasi-partnership," Waid told CBR. "And Banner will be in a lab again and will have a band of assistants who all have two things in common: they're all brilliant in their fields, and they have nothing to lose should they suddenly find they're sharing close quarters with an angry jade behemoth."

Just like Waid has done in the first year of his Daredevil relaunch and re-direction, he plans to stay away from Hulk's standard villains, instead planting the character deeper into the Marvel Universe by having him face some outside-the-box baddies like "Frost Giants, Psycho-Man, Kang the Conqueror, Attuma. All those and more are on tap."

Leinil Yu is excited to work with Waid again (the two teamed on the seminal Superman: Birthright which reestablished Superman's origin for a new generation), and has had fun with the Hulk's designs.

"Superman: Birthright and working with Mark is one of the highlights of my career and I'm about to get a chance to make another mark in the industry with Indestructible Hulk. I'm almost certain that this will be at the top of my resume, like Birthright is," the artist said. And the armor? "They asked me to hand in designs for the armor, which I thought was refreshing and could open up new story lines and possibilities. An armor to me implies an inherent vulnerability and that in itself is interesting, especially with the title Indestructible Hulk."

Waid promises, too, that the armor seen primarily in that big Marvel NOW! initial reveal poster by Joe Quesada has story reasons for even existing. "I mean, it's not like anyone looked at Hulk, the strongest and toughest character on Earth, and said, "Y'know what he needs? He needs armor. Maybe a Nehru collar." Trust me, we're smarter than that."

While CBR didn't ask about the floating robot head seen in the teaser and the cover to the first issue, they did find out a bit about the story, and how it ties to the end of Jason Aaron's current run.

"Jason wraps things up, elegantly and brilliantly. (I'm forever jealous of the ideas he based his whole run around.) Indestructible Hulk #1 picks up a few weeks after the events of Avengers vs. X-Men," Waid teased. "No one's seen Banner or the Hulk for a while, and that makes the whole world very nervous."

Indestructible Hulk #1, from Mark Waid and Leinil Yu, ships November, 2012.




Aug 07, 12 at 5:48pm
victoertom


I'm assuming the classic JG who travels into the present joins the Avengers.



Aug 05, 12 at 6:48pm
Mister MacPhisto


quote newsarama.com
Looks like Marvel is wrapping up a week of November 2012 Marvel NOW! ongoing series relaunch teasers with a virtual flurry Friday morning. The latest is MTV.com, with a gold "Legacy" teaser in the now familiar format, by the creative team of writer Simon Spurrier and artist Tan Eng Huat, almost certainly (or not) an X-Men Legacy relaunch.

Spurrier is no stranger to the Marvel mutant-verse, with a one-shot that led to a mini-series featuring the "science team" of the marvelous mutants, the X-Club.

Update: Given that Spurrier is casting serious doubt on the matter on his Twitter — calling the prevailing speculation "splendidly wrong" — we're going to update our educated guess, and say that this might be a relaunch of another X-title ending in October: New Mutants. "Legacy" would certainly fit, and the yellow-gold color of the text brings to mind the team's classic uniforms.

X-Men Legacy or New Mutants, what do you say?

Huat has been all over the Marvel Universe, from out in space with the Annihilators to Heaven with Ghost Rider. With Rogue only appearing in Uncanny Avengers according to that book's writer, Rick Remender, we're not sure who will take the top billing for the new title just yet.

iFanboy.com joined the teaser party a few moments prior with a "Soldier" teaser by the creative team of Rick Remender and John Romita Jr.


Given the blue color scheme, this one seems likely to be Captain America. With a creative team like Remender writing and Romita Jr. illustrating, the Captain will likely be stepping into some high adventure once again.

Of course, Scott Summer's son Cable is also one heck of a soldier, with blue associations, and appeared on the original Marvel NOW! teaser image by Joe Quesada, and in the Marvel NOW! Point One teasers, but this week's teasers have all so far been focused on November relaunches of series ending in October, so Captain America remains highly likely.

And beating that by just minutes was USA Today, premiering not one, but two teasers Friday morning, though they only actually posted one of the images, with only a text description of the second. Their teasers are "Family" and "Extended."


"Family" is by the creative team of Matt Fraction and Mark Bagley, and most likely indicates the duo will be taking on Fantastic Four.

As for "Extended"? That's written by Fraction, too, with artist Mike Allred, who has only recently started doing more regular work for Marvel. If Fantastic Four is the Family, Extending it out likely means FF will be continuing after a Marvel NOW! relaunch, as well.
Romita Jr. for Cap or Cable I'm down with. And Bagley for FF.



Aug 02, 12 at 8:21am
Mister MacPhisto


I'm more interested in art by Tony Moore (Walking Dead, FEAR Agent, etc.) tbh.



Aug 02, 12 at 7:59am
Darknet


Heh, sometimes people do the best things with Deadpool








Aug 01, 12 at 10:56am
Mister MacPhisto


As fat as I know, Waid is staying on DD. Though he does describe his Hulk take as if you like his Daredevil you'll like this.

I'm in the same boat with Aaron on Thor, but I thought he did good work with Ghost Rider overall as well as Wolverine and the X-Men. Though I got a feeling he'll go for a mix of the smash mouth superhero stories with the likes of the Wrecking Crew or Hyde as well as the more cosmic and Asgardian fare.

Wouldn't doubt that he won't figure a way to wrangle in something like Mongoose or Bloodaxe though.



Aug 01, 12 at 10:21am
Faust


Oh! I'll have to tell my buddy about the Waid Hulk. He'll be stoked, as he hasn't much enjoyed the current run, and you don't get much better than Waid for fun books with decent to great character work. Waid is staying on Daredevil, right?

I don't know how I feel about Aaron on Thor. I'll get it, because Thor, but I dunno. I'm pretty tired of fun Thor ala Fraction, and want some more of psuedo-thespian God Thor ala Kieron Gillen and JMS before him. A blend of the two, much like Simonson's Thor is ideal, of course, but so few writers have the chops to pull that off.

Gillen is amazing, so i'm excited by the prospect of reading Iron Man again.



Aug 01, 12 at 10:15am
Mister MacPhisto


Bendis and Immonen on All New X-Men isn't new news.

But Kieron Gillen and Greg Land on Iron Man is recent. While Jason Aaron and Esad Ribic on Thor is yesterday's news....and Mark Waid and Leinil Yu on Hulk is today's news. MARK WAID!

Creative teams article.



Jul 06, 12 at 1:19pm
Faust


Same, which is weird. It just feels gimmicky, like "HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT US, WE AREN'T DOING ANYTHING REMOTELY NEW OR INTERESTING, BUT LOOK AT HOW NEW AND INTERESTING ALL THIS STUFF IS WE'RE DOING!". Like, I don't want to seem like a hater or anything, but this will be the fourth Avengers #1 I've gotten in the last four years. Likewise, they're still double shipping their books at four dollars each (on most titles), and honestly, the quality is getting hurt by such a rapid release schedule. Don't get me wrong, i'd be pleased as punch to get my favorite books twice a month, if the quality of the writing and art didn't go down the pooper, but on whole, my great books have become mediocre to bad since Marvel has started to double ship their titles so that they can win dollar share of the market. I'm getting kinda burned by these sales and marketing tactics that are all flash, and rely on a reader who is too lazy, too careless, or too dedicated to cancel a book whose quality has dropped.

Don't get me wrong, i'm kinda excited by the prospect of a non-Bendis Avengers book, and doubly excited by the prospect of a Hickman Avengers book, but I can't help but feel they're going the wrong way in trying to reign in new readers. Part of the attraction of the movies and cartoons that they've been putting out is how simple they are, how close to concept they've been. A roster of eighteen plus Avengers with rotating emphasis based on mission doesn't really seem new reader friendly, just like having a double shipped Avengers book co-existing along side New Avengers and Uncanny Avengers, and whatever other Avengers books still exist (such as Secret and Academy) just seems crazy alienating, at least to me putting myself in the role of the illusive yet necessary "new reader". Part of what worked so well for DC's reboot was that they really streamlined a lot of their concepts, brought them back down to basics (even though they really kept a lot of baggage, but they seemingly lost it by reemphasizing it's importance, at the very least. Animal Man is a great example of this). A lot of this Marvel NOW!, while flashy, doesn't seem to be doing anything to reduce the fact that what is really alienating to new readers is the daunting continuity, like having a billion different Avengers teams that are all the same team but not and are comprised of literally every character you can think to name, but aren't, actually.

Maybe it's just me, but this just seems a bit superficial. A half-assed rebuttal to DC's New 52.



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