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[quote=Inuyasha|message:33192907]
[color=red][size=1]There is a huge difference between a jungler trying to do his job and failing at doing his job.

I rarely gank bot, for the reason when I approach, they back off. They clearly have wards. If they desperately need one, I'll take MORE time out of my jungle to sneak into the bottom brush, and wait for the enemy's lane to push closer to us again. If THAT is warded, then I just wasted more than a minute attempting to gank the bot lane while the other lanes are obviously getting destroyed because my team never wins their lanes, and are begging for ganks.

However some people are so stubborn to admit that they lost their lanes that it's pathetic. I'm sure I do it too. If I don't gank for them, or if they are ganked more than I ganked, then it's my fault. I tend to put these kids on ignore, because their ward coverage is awful, and they die as such. The objective of a lane is to outfarm and kill your opponent, and a Leblanc shouldn't be losing to, let's say, a Kassadin in Middle early. When she does, it's her fault, she's getting outplayed. Then the jungle is required to step in. However if the Leblanc can't land her Slow/Snare on an already-stunned Kassadin, then it's THEIR fault again. The exact same way for top lane. If you're beating your opponent and try to dive them but fail, it's YOUR fault. Then when you try and fight again, though you have given the enemy an advantage, it is still YOUR fault. I say this time and time again, Jungler's aren't supposed to bail you out, they're supposed to further your lead and find opportune times to take objectives.

In the same way, if the jungler picked Warwick, or someone who isn't an effective jungler until level 6, don't pick another late game champ who is crippled by early game opponents. Nasus top against a Riven? No, no it doesn't work like that. If you don't have a strong early jungler like Shaco or Alistar to assist you as someone who is a late game terror, then you'll never make it to late game.

TL;DR? So many times the junglers get blamed for the messes people put themselves in. The jungler shouldn't have to be saving every.single.lane.every.single.game. It's irritating, and part of the reason I prefer playing Solo's, so I don't have to put my jungler in that situation. A bit boastful, but true.[/size][/color]
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Jun 27, 12 at 5:22am
ShadowCrystallux

quote Inuyasha
Suicide Karthus. Annoying as hell to play against, fun as hell to play as. People run from fights just to evade his defile, and if he has Zhonya's even more frustrating. It's so entertaining or irritating depending on what team yar on.

He's really fun to play like that. If someone has WotA aura, it gets even better

. You survive for a while at first, 7 seconds extra, revive, port and you're ready to go again. Love karthus sometimes

Jun 23, 12 at 12:39am
Inuyasha

Suicide Karthus. Annoying as hell to play against, fun as hell to play as. People run from fights just to evade his defile, and if he has Zhonya's even more frustrating. It's so entertaining or irritating depending on what team yar on.

Jun 22, 12 at 9:29pm
ShadowCrystallux

quote Al The Killer
I usually have about the same actually. And a bit of MR, because why not?

Survival > Kills for me. Well. Except when playing Katarina and Akali. And Twisted Fate.

Jun 22, 12 at 9:03am
Al The Killer

quote Phoenixmon
Lol at people not buying a mix of runes. Also- runes are best at level 20, bought in abundance. Level 1's and 2's aren't really that cost effective. I have about 30 with a doran's level one (AP), or 36 with the 435 AP item. (5% bonus on all ap). Saying that, I rarely use a full ap mastery set, I usually go with utility stay in lane mastery set. Unless I'm playing an assassin where if they scale from both AD and AP, I usually go with a 30/0/0 set .

I usually have about the same actually. And a bit of MR, because why not?

Jun 22, 12 at 8:00am
Tashur Astur

I love how we have a QQ thread, I just realised that. Made my day.

Jun 21, 12 at 10:01pm
A Wind Powered Moose

Havoc is useless.

My two cents.

Jun 21, 12 at 9:11pm
WakeCraterWind

The game is played in short bursts. Killing a minion, killing a champion, killing monsters, is what counts. I don't care if an enemy does a million damage, over the entire game, if he never kills anything, right? The only role I would see Havoc being useful is a dedicated back-doorer. Otherwise....

Jun 21, 12 at 5:17pm
ShadowCrystallux

1.5% extra damage is actually pretty helpful on assassin's, as every 10 damage counts. 6% extra at 40%- health is just a nice bonus. And that 1.5% damage adds up after a while

Jun 21, 12 at 4:49pm
WakeCraterWind

Ah.... don't take all points in attack. Havoc is so shit. Take a look at this article here.

Havoc and Executioner masteries-are they worth it??

Jun 21, 12 at 4:40pm
ShadowCrystallux

Lol at people not buying a mix of runes. Also- runes are best at level 20, bought in abundance. Level 1's and 2's aren't really that cost effective. I have about 30 with a doran's level one (AP), or 36 with the 435 AP item. (5% bonus on all ap). Saying that, I rarely use a full ap mastery set, I usually go with utility stay in lane mastery set. Unless I'm playing an assassin where if they scale from both AD and AP, I usually go with a 30/0/0 set

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hideOriginal Post

Jun 12, 12 at 7:32pmChaosfire

Thread Recap (last 10 posts from newest to oldest)

Jun 27, 12 at 5:22amShadowCrystallux

Jun 23, 12 at 12:39amInuyasha

Jun 22, 12 at 9:29pmShadowCrystallux

Jun 22, 12 at 9:03amAl The Killer

Jun 22, 12 at 8:00amTashur Astur

Jun 21, 12 at 10:01pmA Wind Powered Moose

Jun 21, 12 at 9:11pmWakeCraterWind

Jun 21, 12 at 5:17pmShadowCrystallux

Jun 21, 12 at 4:49pmWakeCraterWind

Jun 21, 12 at 4:40pmShadowCrystallux

Hobbies

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Jun 27, 12 at 5:22am
ShadowCrystallux

Jun 23, 12 at 12:39am
Inuyasha

Jun 22, 12 at 9:29pm
ShadowCrystallux

Jun 22, 12 at 9:03am
Al The Killer

Jun 22, 12 at 8:00am
Tashur Astur

Jun 21, 12 at 10:01pm
A Wind Powered Moose

Jun 21, 12 at 9:11pm
WakeCraterWind

Jun 21, 12 at 5:17pm
ShadowCrystallux

Jun 21, 12 at 4:49pm
WakeCraterWind

Jun 21, 12 at 4:40pm
ShadowCrystallux