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May 23, 12 at 12:25amNixKing


I've attempted to do my own research so far, however I now turn to Neoseeker and your great minds to focus my wants into reality.

Budget: $900-$1000 AUD

My Location: I'm in Australia so hopefuly someone local can assist with prices.

Main Purpose: Web surfing,

Multitasking: Most likely a high level of this.

Games: Revised to none.

Resolution: Not a huge deal for me. Onboard graphics are fine.

Overclocking: No need.

Peripherals I have: Wireless Keyboard and Mouse.

Recycled Parts: None

Case: Just one that fits my parts and doesn't make them overheat.

RAM: preferably 8GB however would like to have the option of upgrading in future.

HDD: 500GB will be plenty.

Other Requests: I'd like to have as much future proofing as possible, eg USB 3 and Firewire ports if possible. As far as I can tell, this means I have to be careful about the motherboard I purchase, I believe. (first build )

I've pulled a rough plan from mwave, here's the specs from the attempt I made:




Any pointers of where I can go cheaper would be appreciated. I'm willing to stick to the upper end of the bracket ($1000) if it means longer time without needing to upgrade.

My main sticking point is my lack of knowledge in the CPU/Motherboard area.

Thanks in Advance

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May 31, 12 at 5:28am
hiigaran


i will admit, prebuilt units have improved in quality, but their prices have risen disproportionally. for starters, stay the hell away from HP and Dell. period. now, if you want good quality prebuilts youre looking at forking out some extra money on them. ASUS are good, but their prices are high. if we want to go to the extremes, alienware prices are so high that you can build two computers with the exact same specs yourself for the same price.

what i absolutely hate about prebuilts is that they usually restrict your overclocking capabilities in the BIOS. the most you can to to improve performance is to adjust the timings of your RAM. of course, they do this so that you have to buy a new computer sooner, rather than later.



May 31, 12 at 4:47am
harbin


quote hiigaran
where the performance of a self built computer is the same, the quality is much better. by quality, i mean the reliability and failure likelihood. prebuilts usually use shitty power supply units, and to make matters worse, they only use the bare minimum, preventing you from upgrading anything beyond more RAM.
I have to say though, the previous prebuild I had did have room to upgrade RAM, but the power supply being modular, didn't offer much headroom. In terms of quality though, I do think they are starting use higher quality components, although that is largely down to the individual manufacturer. My previous prebuild had an FSP PSU... sure it was FSP anyway and I think FSP do make good power supplies.

The main problem though is that most manufacturers don't list the exact stuff in the PC. I tried searching best buy and the nearest fit I could find to that PC didn't list the exact CPU. The other issue is they are more troublesome to upgrade. The BIOS on the board is really restrictive to the point the only thing it lets you change mainly are boot devices, and I/O settings. Plus the PC used a BTX form factor which is dead.

The other thing is, building your own PC isn't hard to do. Any failed component is easier to replace than if a component fails in a prebuild. If something in the a prebuild failed, then you'd have to send the entire PC back to the factory to get replaced. If something failed in a selfbuild, then only that component would get shipped off, and warranty management is somewhat more simple. Opening a prebuild just to upgrade or replace a component would void warranty, just by opening the case, meaning anything fails your on your own.

Quility of selfbuilds are generally higher anyway because you get to choose what parts you want, meaning you get exactly what you want instead of having to buy a 'nearest-to' what you want. I would only ever suggest a prebuild for someone who is a novice with PCs and can't be trusted with all the hassle of building it.

If you want a gaming PC then I would highly suggest you build one. Most prebuilt gaming PCs I've seen are overpriced for what you get.



May 31, 12 at 4:22am
hiigaran


where the performance of a self built computer is the same, the quality is much better. by quality, i mean the reliability and failure likelihood. prebuilts usually use shitty power supply units, and to make matters worse, they only use the bare minimum, preventing you from upgrading anything beyond more RAM.



May 30, 12 at 6:50pm
halo3rox


quote hiigaran
quote halo3rox
Just go buy one at the store most laptops and amd desktops work perfectly for what your wanting.
building a computer is cheaper and you get parts of higher quality. prebuilts suck in every wa
I dont know some are pretty well off especially just for web browsing.



May 30, 12 at 2:52pm
hiigaran


quote halo3rox
Just go buy one at the store most laptops and amd desktops work perfectly for what your wanting.
building a computer is cheaper and you get parts of higher quality. prebuilts suck in every way.



May 30, 12 at 1:38pm
ashantiqua


really, if you just need web browsing spending anything more than a few hundred dollars is a total waste.

buy a $300 netbook with an APU.

unless you want a desktop because you plan on upgrading it in the future, again, anything over a few hundred dollars for web browsing is a complete waste. web browsing takes practically no RAM and no CPU power, with only HD video playback requiring a tiny little GPU / CPU juice.

$900 - $1k is what youd spend on a gaming PC.

maybe something like this:

http://www.howardcomputers.com/accessories/detail.cfm?source=googlebase&id=S9075570

lenovo x120e.

- like ~3 lbs
- relatively high ppi: 1366 x 768 in a 11.6" screen
- dual core CPU with a fairly beefy GPU.
- kick ass keyboard
- 4GB of ram
- ~$350

^ more than enough power for web browsing. powerful enough to play some games and run emulators.



May 30, 12 at 12:37pm
halo3rox


Just go buy one at the store most laptops and amd desktops work perfectly for what your wanting.



May 25, 12 at 6:59pm
NixKing


hiigaran

Cheers, I'll keep an eye on it. All parts are ready to be ordered!



May 25, 12 at 10:23am
hiigaran


its all good, but i would be careful with the psu. coolermaster have some shitty low watt units the output less than advertised



May 25, 12 at 6:30am
NixKing


Cooler Master 341 Elite Black Case Micro Mini Tower With 420W PSU, SEC

Samsung SH-222BB/BEBS Internal 22x DVD Burner - SATA - OEM - Black

Western Digital WD Caviar Blue 3.5" 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM 32MB

Crucial M4 64GB SATA 6GB/s Solid State Drive - 2.5" - 500MB/s Rea

ASRock A75M-HVS Motherboard - AMD Socket FM1 - AMD A75 FCH Chipset - 2

A-RAM 4GB Memory, PC3-10600 (1333MHz) DDR3, 240-pin DIMM, Non-ECC, CL

AMD A6-3500 Triple Core Fusion APU - Socket FM1 - 2.1GHz - 3MB L2 Cach

This is settling into what I'd be after. See any issues with it that I missed?



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