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May 04, 12 at 6:27amCvardeman


Here's how I see the issue...

We have more quest than we did in wkc1, there's more armor, and weapons. We finally got a guild system that we wanted so badly in wkc1. We as a community have gotten dlc greedy there's far more too do on wkc2 than wkc1.

And if new content really means everything there's a small portion of us who play the jap version....

All in all it's not the end of wkc2... We as a community need to stick together, all this hacker bs and troll bs needs to stop. People need to get over themselves.


"United we stand, divided we fall" ~Alfred the great.

Thread Recap (last 10 posts from newest to oldest)

Jun 10, 12 at 10:08pm
Adrienne


quote The Swagg King
Some peoples lives will fall apart like that one player on the Message Boards who keeps typing in all Caps lately. I hope you got your options and aren't so fixated only on WKC if it really is the only game you play.
Please stop using this forum to talk about people from the geonet message boards. I do know your normal user name, and I've seen you do it in other threads. Whatever is going on there has nothing to do with this message board.



Jun 10, 12 at 9:12pm
The Swagg King


I feel bad for whoever still plays this with the hope that D3P will release more DLC. I also feel bad for when they shut down the servers.

Some peoples lives will fall apart like that one player on the Message Boards who keeps typing in all Caps lately. I hope you got your options and aren't so fixated only on WKC if it really is the only game you play.



Jun 05, 12 at 9:13am
TheHighlander


quote Umbravionas
maybe we could ask them to merge the servers
We could ask, but it seems unlikely.

Incidentally for all those worrying about the servers, please consider the following...

The game is peer to peer. Georama rooms and Guild town rooms are 'hosted' by the player that starts them. The Geonet servers handle a few 'chores' but none of them are particularly demanding;

Player authentication/license verification
Maintain player home pages
Track player use of guild tokens and guild membership
Player adventure logs
Maintain copy of Georama settings uploaded by players
Maintain Guild home pages
Guild leaderboard
In-game message board and guild message boards
bmails
Logging of all text chat in the game
Grief reporting

None of these tasks are particularly hard for a server to manage and the biggest implication is the storage required. But as we all know, HDD space is cheap.

I think it's correct to say that Geonet uses we protocols to communicate between server and PS3, so the Geronet server is little more than a web server. The server(s) probably exist as virtual servers in a larger server farm. It's unlikely that they are physical servers located somewhere, virtual servers are far less expensive to provision and maintain. Given the minimal interaction with any form of administration and Geonet, the ongoing costs of maintaining the Geonet servers are really quite low.

The point of all this being that keeping geonet up and running for the foreseeable future should not be a worry for anyone. I don't know what the Long term view would be, but at least for now, I don't think we should worry.

Personally I'd hope that the NA/EU server(s) remain up as long as the Japanese server(s) do.



Jun 03, 12 at 4:42pm
Umbravionas


maybe we could ask them to merge the servers



May 23, 12 at 10:41am
Strenghtre


quote Cvardeman
Here's how I see the issue...

We have more quest than we did in wkc1, there's more armor, and weapons. We finally got a guild system that we wanted so badly in wkc1. We as a community have gotten dlc greedy there's far more too do on wkc2 than wkc1.

And if new content really means everything there's a small portion of us who play the jap version....

All in all it's not the end of wkc2... We as a community need to stick together, all this hacker bs and troll bs needs to stop. People need to get over themselves.


"United we stand, divided we fall" ~Alfred the great.
Your are right, there is still far more to learn about, exploit about the game. For superficial players (no negative connotation implied) the game is about questing for mats, obtaining great gear, and moving on to the next great gear available-which to someone who has +20d all their equipment it would mean WKC Jap. However, I personally have found the game to be more enjoyable when we try to think outside the box and better ourselves not through gear, but through creativity and execution. It's about time we stepped outside of materialism and into innovation-let's create new techniques, approaches, and strategies. Let's step into the next level of gameplay, and bring upcoming players into that same atmostpher, teaching them to learn the game's system, rather than delve into a wardrobe and pick out clothes for their next modeling show..



May 12, 12 at 5:04pm
GrayFox14


I know for my self i have stopped playing for a bit. With out updates you get bored very quick. I picked up DCU and i am enjoying it. And the best part it is free



May 12, 12 at 4:49pm
WKC2Codi


if i knew that we would not be getting a full game i would have never bought this game. its pathetic to think that we got "more than we did in wkc1" because we didn't. we have more armor and weapons why? because we have wkc1 armor and weapons compiled in with another game. you take away the stuff from wkc1 and we are left with fewer quests, monsters, weapons, and armor. i wouldn't consider half of wkc2 "new armor" because they colored it different. why even produce something your not going to complete? and then have a bunch of morons saying we should be happy with what we have..fk that. i paid $64.00 for the "complete game" if japan was going to get more they should have made it a japan exclusive like they did with monster hunter for the ps3. i feel like i've been totally ripped off by japan yet again. maybe you all are ok with bending over and takin it in the ass from japan but i don't play that sh*t



May 08, 12 at 6:33am
Jack The Typhoon


well we still have that petition, but we're grasping at straws though. Atleast if it fails we did exhaust all of our options and we won't regret anything.



May 07, 12 at 3:42am
TomB


I agree with the point that we got a hell lot of content in WKC2 for our money. More than we got in WKC1 but for me, the problem is something different and it has to do, as stated here in this thread, with expectations.

All in all, I have spent 2.000 hours in WKC2 so the ratio gaming hours per Euro is more than sufficient. But I payed ~ 60 Euro for the Game itself and since the tickets became available, I have spent at least 5 Euros per month, special purchases like Artifact plans and such not inlcuded.

On other MMO games, you pay 8-12 Euro per month and receive regular updates in return so I thought, even if I do not have a subscription, I pay regularly and therefore can expect to also receive updates. Of course, I know that the Sales were bad but on the other side, the Game uses a lot of recyling so I am sure, production costs were quite low. But I, as a single customer can't affect Sales in a sginificant way and all I know is that I bought a Game they should have prolly not released outside of Japan seeing how they treated the NA und EU region communication and update wise.

If you release a Game in different regions and give one region everything and the others a little bit of something here and there, of course people will be mad. Especially since everybody knows how to use a Web translator and most die hard fans were aware of how regular the JP version got updates. So we had on the one hand the sitation that we saw how well Level 5 cares for the JP product and on the other hand, we were left in the Dark about everything. The only announcement I can remember is the Patch 1.01. Other updates like new quests came and nobody knew in advance.

I have never seen such a poor form of communicaton like Level 5/D3 showed it and it will have an effect on the next Game I see made from Level 5 or published from D3 when I know it is made for the JP market originally.

I am also sure, not to communicate with the EU/NA region was done with a reason: To sell more tickets/DLC. They knew exactly that if they announce that there will be no further updates, sales on PSN store will decrease and we had to mass E-Mail their support with questions about updates forcing them to react.

Another thing that bugs me is that they obviously don't care for regions outside JP but at least, they realized that a few Games were shipped to the NA market. EU market doesn't play a role at all and they don't even mention it. Check the Facebook entry, all you read is about support for NA. I am sure that they received E-Mails from NA and EU but EU isn't even worth to be mentioned lol. Since NA and EU are on the same server, we can only assume it is the same for EU. Bottom line is, I feel like living in the ancient unrecognized World lol while NA at least gets some reaction.

But now, at least everything is clear and I do not expect anything anymore. There are still a few things I'd like to achieve or generally have fun with guild mates and helping new members to find their way through the Game. As much as the Facebook news dissapointed me, I am glad I know now what is going to happen. Sadly it is nothing lol but at least it is clear now and official. Hope this takes away the Sunshine from the update trolls spreading false info.



May 06, 12 at 7:09pm
vaskov17


quote Player_Two
The difference between this game and other games is that the DLC quests/armors/weapons (which is the main bulk of the content) are offered for free. You can make the argument that micro transactions and initial purchases of the game cover up the cost of bringing the content overseas but it's a null point without knowing the actual costs.
one of the first thing the devs probably made is an editor for the quests. once all the areas and monsters are done, they can just be placed wherever with simple rules for artificial intelligence, npc and enemy placement and event triggers. all the new quests (except one new area) in japan feature areas and enemies already in the game so it's just recycling already created content which shouldn't take much time or money.

also this game is very similar to an mmorpg, and they have been around for a while. the devs have a clear idea of what they are making and the expectations gamers have of this type of game so the sudden end to support is very odd.



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