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Apr 30, 12 at 8:32amCastlewars


It is widely known that a lot of forums have this rule:

quote Rules
Flooding, or posting in any thread in sight, regardless of whether it adds to the topic or not, is considered as spam.
The problem with this rule is that whoever wrote up the rules for the forums are putting too much emphasis on the likelihood that it will be a really high chance that it will be spam.

But now we have to consider the shayne problem. A lot of people knew him, and that he used to cover up a whole page of last replies to threads as himself. AS mentioned before, this was considered flooding. Normally, shayne would have received a warning from the moderators and have all of his posts deleted. However, they allowed his posts, seeing as they added to the discusion of the thread. But this does not agree with the "no-flooding" rule placed into lots of forums.

Does the way that flooding is dealt with differ from mod to mod?

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May 04, 12 at 6:28pm
Thunder850


quote Wakaman
To be honest castlewars you aren't one to talk about breaking the rules man, because you've spammed enough yourself. There wasn't a "Shayne problem" like you imply, only the MLP forum is where he was deliberately doing it, which the moderators came up to him about.
I agree. I'd consider this more of a "castlewars problem" concerning this forum lol. Shayne did have a period of flooding, but he stopped pretty quickly.



May 04, 12 at 5:58pm
Wakaman


To be honest castlewars you aren't one to talk about breaking the rules man, because you've spammed enough yourself. There wasn't a "Shayne problem" like you imply, only the MLP forum is where he was deliberately doing it, which the moderators came up to him about.



May 01, 12 at 9:03pm
Dynamite


Furthermore, exactly where did you quote this 'rule' from?

quote Castlewars
It is widely known that a lot of forums have this rule:
quote Rules
Flooding, or posting in any thread in sight, regardless of whether it adds to the topic or not, is considered as spam.
No rule threads exist here with that directive; particularly the "regardless of whether it adds to the topic or not" stipulation. It seems you've just come up with that yourself.

There's a lot of rule threads around the site, but allow me to pull a few completely at random and examine their stipulations on flooding:
    quote
    Do not flood the forum with an abundance of one-liner posts. There's nothing wrong with making ten posts in a ten-minute period as long as you put some thought and meaning into your posts. Do not go around making one-line comments about a subject in an attempt to raise your post count and get noticed in the forum.
    quote
    This is completely unacceptable. Flooding the forum is the act of posting in every thread on the first page without adding anything to of value to the discussion. This is usually done with the intention of getting higher on the forum Top Posters list or for raising post counts. This will not be tolerated, and Post restrictions will be given. This is your only warning for this offense. Most people trying this are caught out by their one line responses to the threads which hold little meaning.
    quote
    In regards to flooding: Please don't flood the forum with pointless posts, because they'll be gone in the same way that you posted them — fast.
    quote
    Flooding, as seen above, is a type of spamming. Simply put, flooding the forum is excessively posting so that you can be the top poster, raise your post count, or see your name all over the forum. All three of these are looked down upon, let others contribute the forum as well, guys! This does not mean that you can't be an active member, just be sure to contribute to the forum instead of posting nonsense simply to boost your post count, etc.
    quote
    Flooding the forum is posting many, many times in a short space of time. It's usually done so that the person doing it can have their name attached to the end of each thread in the forum. If your posts offer nothing and you're clearly doing this, they will be deleted and you will be warned.
    quote
    Please take notice that this doesn't mean that you aren't allowed to participate or you have a limited numbers of posts in the forum, just make sure they are actually contributing to the thread and you are not taking advantage of the forum threads.
    quote
    Flooding happens most of the time when you get overexcited and tend to post in every single thread in the forum. Most of the time all these posts are spam. Do not do this, unless ALL of your posts are constructive/helpful. Otherwise, flooding is against the rules.
Okay, I've been through enough now. All of the emphasis in the above quotes are mine highlighting exactly the point VeGiTAX2 is making: if posts are constructive, they're fine. In actual fact, from all of the rule threads I've visited and shown here it seems this information is very prevalent and widely propagated.

If you're going to make claims that something is "widely known" and quote rules here at least make sure they have some basis in fact, because from what I'm seeing the complete opposite to what you suggest is true.



May 01, 12 at 10:30am
VeGiTAX2


Even worse, the last time someone complained about shayne posting so often I remember shooting it down noting there's nothing against constructive active posting on this site.

So I really am not sure where

quote
AS mentioned before, this was considered flooding
Comes up from, our version of flooding focuses on the damaging aspect, in the early days we had active posters that could reply to the whole first page of a forum with decent replies and no one said a thing.

The counter to this is simple.
  • If the posts are useless or spam it doesn't qualify
  • If the posts are misinformed and vague
There's no rule on this site against being social, just ones about abuse. Before you try to slam someone in public take that into account and get the full facts from the top.



Apr 30, 12 at 5:59pm
Mister MacPhisto


There's also the more literal "letter of the law" vs. the more guideline based "spirit of the law" to consider.



Apr 30, 12 at 10:30am
Endless Ages


Rules differ from forum to forum. In a hypothetical situation, one forum may not tolerate double posting at all under any circumstance while another may tolerate it as long as it adds to the discussion of the thread.

Taking a look at the Loungin' Guidelines and Expectations Thread, however, there is nothing regarding flooding in the forum.

Also, take a look at Forumwide Rules of Conduct, Etiquette, and Behavior. It mentions nothing about flooding.

Also, to quote from the Forumwide Rules:

quote Rules
As a final note, forum level moderators often implement guidelines or policies localized to cater to their specific forums, and these should be adhered to in addition to what is stated here.
To summarize, it is up to the discretion of the moderator of the forum to deal with at the end of the day.




Apr 30, 12 at 8:32am
Castlewars


It is widely known that a lot of forums have this rule:

quote Rules
Flooding, or posting in any thread in sight, regardless of whether it adds to the topic or not, is considered as spam.
The problem with this rule is that whoever wrote up the rules for the forums are putting too much emphasis on the likelihood that it will be a really high chance that it will be spam.

But now we have to consider the shayne problem. A lot of people knew him, and that he used to cover up a whole page of last replies to threads as himself. AS mentioned before, this was considered flooding. Normally, shayne would have received a warning from the moderators and have all of his posts deleted. However, they allowed his posts, seeing as they added to the discusion of the thread. But this does not agree with the "no-flooding" rule placed into lots of forums.

Does the way that flooding is dealt with differ from mod to mod?




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