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Apr 11, 12 at 6:52pmgeartrain440


Hi everyone, I'm a first time PC builder, looking for a decent system for FPS games.
I don't need ultra high resolution, but they need to be medium-high and have steady frame rate.

I've got an ~$800 budget excluding the monitor.

Here's my current build:
CPU $224.99:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K

Motherboard $69.99:
GIGABYTE GA-H61MA-D3V LGA 1155 Intel H61 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Graphics Card $129.98 (rebate):
Gigabyte Radeon HD 6850 Windforce 820MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI Display Port PCI-E Video Card

Memory $41.99:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

HDD $79.99:
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (WD5000AAKX) - Online Only

PSU $42.99 (rebate):
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W ATX 20/24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Fan 80PLUS Power Supply

Case $54.99:
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan

Wireless Card $19.99: EDIMAX EW-7722In PCI Wireless Adapter
Keyboard + Mouse $22.99: Logitech MK200 Media Keyboard and Mouse Combo USB
Surge Protector $10.99: Tripp Lite 6-Outlet Energy Saving Surge Protector (TLP606)

Grand Total (HST + SH included): $795.78

I'd like to know if my CPU/GPU combo is optimal, if everything is compatible, if I missed anything important, and I could find a better deal for the price.
Also, I suspect my PSU is way more than I need, but I don't know exactly what I need.

Thanks for looking, and thanks for any answers!

edit: updated to reflect suggestions

Thread Recap (last 10 posts from newest to oldest)

Apr 16, 12 at 3:55am
geartrain440


Well, I think those are all the questions I have.
Thanks guys, I'll be placing my order in a while



Apr 15, 12 at 12:39pm
hiigaran


for the record, the kit would use about 6 watts less. mind you, im basing this info on a tomshardware review of another low voltage kit that ran at the same voltage, so there might be differences, but it should be about the same.

ive said it all too many times, but i would REALLY love a neoseeker review on that RAM kit.



Apr 15, 12 at 12:26pm
Randome


quote Pritstick
If you wanna save money, you could get this stuff, which is a good brand, has the same timings (9-9-9-24) ans speed (1600MHz) but is not low voltage, and therefore is a few dollars cheaper.
Those few dollars could eventually make a difference in the power bill.



Apr 15, 12 at 12:13pm
Pritstick


quote geartrain440
I've got all the parts updated in the first post, with links since I like everything in one place anyways.

I put some more money towards the CPU, mobo, and memory, since I plan to also do things other than gaming. i5-2400 is enough, overclocking is not in my plans.

Low voltage memory doesn't seem to have many benefits for the price, unless there's something I'm missing?
Performance wise, low voltage RAM makes no difference. The RAM in your previous build was slow (1333Mhz, poor timings) and of poor quality, the current RAM is good - see the low-voltage as being a bonus. If you wanna save money, you could get this stuff, which is a good brand, has the same timings (9-9-9-24) ans speed (1600MHz) but is not low voltage, and therefore is a few dollars cheaper.



Apr 15, 12 at 6:27am
hiigaran


if it pays off, its always a good investment.

also, less heat is always a good thing.

one more thing...gross exaggeration on the payback time, and the amount of usage required. assume the average cost of electricity in america is 13 cents. lets also assume that the system uses about 300 watts on average. if we use 80% and 90% efficiency by dividing the energy output by the efficiency, we get 375 watts of input power for 80%, and 333 watts of input power at 90%...a difference of 42 watts. if the average usage is 4 hours a day, every day, then multiply 42 by 4, then by 365, then convert watt hours in to kilowatt hours by dividing it by 1000, then multiplying it by the cost of your electricity bill per kilowatt hour. according to the graph here, canadian prices look to be about 13 cents on average. comes to 8 bucks a year saved. 40 bucks saved over 5 years.

if you want to use your exaggerated usage, we can follow the same method, and then arrive at the conclusion that the amount saved is nearly 50 bucks a year.

you can argue that the saving is insignificant for general use and that you might as well get the cheaper unit now, but thats probably where you and i will have conflicting ideas. if you can recover the costs within a few years, it is always worth getting, especially considering that the lifespan of a PSU is 11.4 years.



Apr 15, 12 at 6:02am
ComputerEd


I would not get to wrapped up in the level of 80Plus achieved. The difference between a Bronze and a Gold if run 24/7 at full load would take about 5 years to pay off in most cases. Unless the price difference is minor, like $10 there is no reason to worry about this.



Apr 15, 12 at 4:46am
hiigaran


the memory is beneficial in the long run. if it runs on a lower voltage, it means it is using less power. if it uses less power, it makes less heat.

performance wise, there is no difference.

also, if you have the money, i suggest one of these units, for their higher efficiency. again, they pay off in the long run, but in the mean time, they produce less heat. always a good thing, especially if you find it too hot in your room



Apr 14, 12 at 11:45pm
geartrain440


I've got all the parts updated in the first post, with links since I like everything in one place anyways.

I put some more money towards the CPU, mobo, and memory, since I plan to also do things other than gaming. i5-2400 is enough, overclocking is not in my plans.

Low voltage memory doesn't seem to have many benefits for the price, unless there's something I'm missing?



Apr 14, 12 at 9:10am
hiigaran


just to be absolutely clear, how are the parts looking right now? names will be fine. links not needed.



Apr 14, 12 at 7:22am
Pritstick


quote geartrain440
Okay, I updated my first post to reflect your recommendations.

I could re-use an DVD drive from an older PC, but there's nothing worth re-using beyond that.

I just found out that NCIX has a bunch of stores around my area, so I changed some things to buy locally and save on S&H. Now I've got a surplus of $100 - what should upgrade? If I upgrade to an i5, would my graphics card bottleneck?
Build is looking very good now. Reasonable Z68 boards are a lot more expensive, you should probably spend $125 plus if you want to get a comparable spec board on that chipset, so unless you are intent on OC'ing then I would stick with the current mobo.

I would echo what hiigaran said about the RAM, as the first thing to upgrade. (+ $13)

If you're gonna be gaming, consider the 6870. (+ $30) - I wouldn't go any higher than a 6870 on the i3 though.

If you want to use apps which make use of four cores (things are headed that way), consider an i5 2400. (+ $65)



For a gaming rig, it's a bit of a balancing act between the CPU and the GPU. I would suggest the a reasonable pair for the i3 would be either the 6850 (or nVidia GTX 560) or the 6870 (or nVidia GTX 560Ti). Reasonable pairings for the i5-2400 would be the 6870 / 560Ti, or a 6950. Of course, there's the new 7xxx series but the price hasn't come down yet.



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