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Jan 11, 12 at 11:17amDragoon


I've been looking into getting a Playstation Plus account after looking into the various perks of it, the major one being several games being free for downloading with a P+ account. All I want to know is, is it really worth it? In the past (especially on the 360) I've invested a fair amount of money into services such as purchasing Microsoft Points, XBL Gold and various subscription services only to never really use them or get my money's worth out of it. So, for those that already have one, is it really worth the annual fee and do you get the most out of what you pay for?

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Jan 17, 12 at 6:20am
Existence


quote Paradox
That doesn't make up for most of the games that have more bugs at release. They're ironed out in the first couple of months, but it's horrible buying a multi-platform game, especially an RPG, on PS3. Hack and slash games (with the exception of Bayonetta) are fine but when we get into more complicated games the PS3 version has a lot of problems.
Overstatement. List all the games which were markedly inferior on the PS3. You'll definitely get a few, but you're just exaggerating there.



Jan 17, 12 at 2:33am
Aeirou


quote Paradox
It's weird how people here say that Cross Game Chat isn't a big deal when the Platinum Community chats together in a text chat every day. Wouldn't it be better if you guys had cross game chat so you didn't have to go in and out of XMB to discuss shit?
Can't miss what you aren't used to having.

As for text chats.. it's easier to check text chat then loading individual messages.



Jan 17, 12 at 2:30am
doomed_soul89


quote redneonfish
The 360 and PS3 both have the same amounts of ram. It's the way they both use them that differs. The PS3 has 256 dedicated to the CPU and 256 to the GPU whilst the 360 has a combined 512 between the CPU and GPU which is better, because if the CPU (or GPU) require more, it has access to it.

I believe the PS3's ram allocation is the reason why Skyrim is laggy. Doomed Soul is therefore correct in saying that it's impossible for Sony to fix the 'problem' this gen.

Whilst the delay in replying to messages in game is sometimes annoying, it's never made me think "the PS3 is a total piece of shit and i'll never play it again".

As for the PS+ vs XBL Gold debate. I'll repeat what I said earlier. It depends on how much you use the store, if you hardly buy anything don't get it. Simple.
Actually all that is irrelevant, ps3 actually makes better use of the ram then the 360 in terms of games, skyrim being laggy is simply the devs fault. When I say allocate the ps3 OS has so much ram it has access to, this ram is a very small amount and games are cut off from using it. The 360 has the same which is also a very small amount but it's more then the ps3 and enough to use the OS better during gamesplay. The main reason for this is Sony never intended the OS to be used in game.

Paradox again there is nothing wrong with rpgs on ps3 dragon age origins, FFXIII, tales of ves(jap), Star Ocean, Eternal sonata etc. all run fine most even better then 360. You are just mainly playing Bethesda games. Also again the online isn't superior the OS is and that 60 bucks is just you getting ripped off. Also it's not that big of a deal since it doesn't effect the games, we've been playing for decades without cross game chat it isn't a big deal now, it's a nice bonus but that's about it.



Jan 16, 12 at 7:44pm
Paradox


quote Aragorn Vzla
Paradox I only pointed out some games that perform better or have additional incentives to ps3 users because you generalized the fact that multiplatform games run better on the xbox 360. The majority run better but not all of them do.

My point is I rather pay 60$ to test a new psn game a month for a year than paying for xbox live when you shouldn't, that to me is like paying additional fees to use my phone after I've already paid my phone bill. And that can be said as well for the ps+, the automatic updates and some of the features that are ps+ only shouldn't be paid for since they are incorporated in the features of the machine. Cloud saving and free games and discounts I can understand since those things are optional. The ability to program your machine so it turns on at an specific time is not, since you can do that with tv's and other other electronic devices.
Fair enough, but I'd only play for PSN Plus if Sony magically added Cross Game Chat or a community that actually likes to be social online. The few people with mics on PSN are with a group of people anyways, it's a shame. Sure there's more idiots on XBL but as long as you stay away from CoD you're good to go.

I'm sorry but text chats are terrible, PSN or otherwise. Not only do they load terribly on PS3 (not sure about XBL) but it's much better if everyone could just have mics and talk. It's weird how people here say that Cross Game Chat isn't a big deal when the Platinum Community chats together in a text chat every day. Wouldn't it be better if you guys had cross game chat so you didn't have to go in and out of XMB to discuss shit?



Jan 16, 12 at 6:58pm
Aragorn Vzla


Paradox I only pointed out some games that perform better or have additional incentives to ps3 users because you generalized the fact that multiplatform games run better on the xbox 360. The majority run better but not all of them do.

My point is I rather pay 60$ to test a new psn game a month for a year than paying for xbox live when you shouldn't, that to me is like paying additional fees to use my phone after I've already paid my phone bill. And that can be said as well for the ps+, the automatic updates and some of the features that are ps+ only shouldn't be paid for since they are incorporated in the features of the machine. Cloud saving and free games and discounts I can understand since those things are optional. The ability to program your machine so it turns on at an specific time is not, since you can do that with tv's and other other electronic devices.



Jan 16, 12 at 4:56pm
Paradox


quote Aragorn Vzla
quote Paradox
They aren't valid because no one cares about your points. No one is talking about the 360s failure rate or exclusives, just online. I don't know why you're talking about that stuff anyways.
Well nobody was asking what you thought about xbox live nor the xmb, The topic was about if ps+ was worth it. I say it is, and I also recommend getting the 3 month to try it out for yourself. It'll be worth it anyway and if you don't like it at least you didn't pay for the 12 month deal.
Except I'm not the one that brought it up and I was just commenting on it. The XMB and XBL still falls under the topic of this thread, 'online', but he had to mention a bunch of anti-Microsoft (I'm pretty anti M$ myself) shit. I don't know if he was venting or just wanted to criticize the 360 for the something everyone knows already because people called the PS3 OS bad.

quote Aragorn Vzla
quote Paradox
Or that the only reason why the PS3 is a good console is because of its exclusives and it's not worth buying anything multiplat on your PS3. But that last one would be like my opinion man.
Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, Portal 2 and Mass Effect 2 are some examples.
That doesn't make up for most of the games that have more bugs at release. They're ironed out in the first couple of months, but it's horrible buying a multi-platform game, especially an RPG, on PS3. Hack and slash games (with the exception of Bayonetta) are fine but when we get into more complicated games the PS3 version has a lot of problems.

Red 9 except the PS3 is advertised as a 'MULTIMEDIA HUB OF AWESOME LOOK YOU CAN WATCH MOVIES AND GO ONLINE BLUERAYYY'. Both consoles are.


Why do people think it's wrong to criticize Sony for their poor allocation of RAM in their console or their laggy OS? Just because it can't be fixed this gen doesn't mean it isn't a huge problem. You can say 'well they didn't think of cross game chat back then', fair enough, but M$ of all people did. When it comes to online XBL is superior and you can't argue against that, the question is.... are you willing to pay 60 dollars a year, the price of a game at launch, for the service? I don't personally think it's worth all that money, but I pay for it anyways because I actually feel connected to other people on XBL and people actually use their mics.



Jan 16, 12 at 1:28pm
Aragorn Vzla


quote Paradox
They aren't valid because no one cares about your points. No one is talking about the 360s failure rate or exclusives, just online. I don't know why you're talking about that stuff anyways.
Well nobody was asking what you thought about xbox live nor the xmb, The topic was about if ps+ was worth it. I say it is, and I also recommend getting the 3 month to try it out for yourself. It'll be worth it anyway and if you don't like it at least you didn't pay for the 12 month deal.


quote Paradox
Or that the only reason why the PS3 is a good console is because of its exclusives and it's not worth buying anything multiplat on your PS3. But that last one would be like my opinion man.
Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, Portal 2 and Mass Effect 2 are some examples.



Jan 16, 12 at 11:45am
redneonfish


The 360 and PS3 both have the same amounts of ram. It's the way they both use them that differs. The PS3 has 256 dedicated to the CPU and 256 to the GPU whilst the 360 has a combined 512 between the CPU and GPU which is better, because if the CPU (or GPU) require more, it has access to it.

I believe the PS3's ram allocation is the reason why Skyrim is laggy. Doomed Soul is therefore correct in saying that it's impossible for Sony to fix the 'problem' this gen.

Whilst the delay in replying to messages in game is sometimes annoying, it's never made me think "the PS3 is a total piece of shit and i'll never play it again".

As for the PS+ vs XBL Gold debate. I'll repeat what I said earlier. It depends on how much you use the store, if you hardly buy anything don't get it. Simple.



Jan 16, 12 at 4:59am
doomed_soul89


quote Red 9
Well, everyone knows that the 360 has better allocated/more RAM, so it has that extra elbow room to supply the OS the ability to do what it does. The PS3 has less, and focuses more on the games themselves than the OS. Which I feel is the proper way to go; I bought my PS3 for the games it plays, not the OS and the doodads it has.
The difference in game is negligible Sony should of allocated more to the OS but when they made it they didn't intend for it to be used in game at all. All in all it's a minor thing but impossible to fix this gen. MS just isn't good at making games, on both the dev and publisher side hell.



Jan 16, 12 at 1:45am
Mnmfan


I know it's not PS+ related but their debate started out as a PS+ discussion and then it just started to stray a bit of topic. It's a bit like going to Youtube to watch a video about COD and then 10 minutes later you're watching a video about time travel (happened to me yesterday). I'm not gonna slap wrists everytime members stray slightly off-topic especially if they have a good and proper debate going on.



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