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Jun 18, 11 at 4:36pmctrl
No. The Notification feature and any other besides PM's are in realtime, so as long as the notification has been made. If it was deleted, it still sits in your box. Now this may apply to notifications to a deleted post. And I don't think that guests have the ability to notify users.
It is a wonderful feature that a lot of people take too personal and need to move on from it. I can honestly say none of them made this big of a fluff when Facebook started doing notifications. The thread Scream Out To A Stranger! makes the feature fun by seeing that people you don't even know are just using it to notify others, yet there is no retorts or annoyance or anger. Why? Because people aren't blowing it out of proportion and appreciating it for what it is. I'm sure in the future when the forums become more real-time themselves beyond pressing the refresh button, I'm sure features like this could be implemented by the supers that can flag users that are notifying more than X-amount of notifications in any given post.
I just see this suggestion being a suggestion for like an electronic on a car. Like the radio. It's nice that it was put in, but so many people want to be able to have more control over it and have more features when the mechanic is off working on a different part of the car right now. And since it works fine and picks up good tunes, I wouldn't really fuss about it and just jam out. Ya dig?
It is a wonderful feature that a lot of people take too personal and need to move on from it. I can honestly say none of them made this big of a fluff when Facebook started doing notifications. The thread Scream Out To A Stranger! makes the feature fun by seeing that people you don't even know are just using it to notify others, yet there is no retorts or annoyance or anger. Why? Because people aren't blowing it out of proportion and appreciating it for what it is. I'm sure in the future when the forums become more real-time themselves beyond pressing the refresh button, I'm sure features like this could be implemented by the supers that can flag users that are notifying more than X-amount of notifications in any given post.
I just see this suggestion being a suggestion for like an electronic on a car. Like the radio. It's nice that it was put in, but so many people want to be able to have more control over it and have more features when the mechanic is off working on a different part of the car right now. And since it works fine and picks up good tunes, I wouldn't really fuss about it and just jam out. Ya dig?
Jun 18, 11 at 2:37amEmberguard
I say we should keep it as it is for most members and just put any kind of limit on the guests or newcomers to stop bots spamming. If that is too much of a worry.
In any case, if its not broke, don't fix it.
We already have a rule for spam and mass notifications without a proper perpose is spam and to be dealt with by a moderator
Certainly I didn't know about notifications and how to do them for quite some time, so it wouldn't of mattered during the first 10 posts anyway. And what's the chances of newcomers knowing many people?
I know in who's that pokemon I relied on mass notification to revive the thread once it was my turn. But I only did it once and those that wanted to play posted. Then it was a matter of putting notifications on the post for those that requested it when the new clue was up.
If there was a limit then with the amount of people I wanted to notify, I would of had to spread it over posts. And then what? Notify a moderator to merge them together? How annoying would that get to moderators.
And I can just imagine the conversation with those that I would have to notify in the next available post if there was a limit.
Person: oh cool! Wait... You didn't notify me earlier. You like them more then me >:/
Me: sorry, had a notification limit
Person: sssuuuurrrreee. Blame it on the system.
I know in the trading forum there has been raffles with 100 people and that those people are notified when they are put on the list, which is handy cos then you know you got a number or that you need to pick another one.
And if we have a limit, you'll have to think about clans as well, the OP often has all the members notified for when the new thread is up so members know not to post on the old one.
Edit:
And it really is more of a spamming notifications to a small amount of people, and doing the notifications throughout neoseeker forums that is the problem. And this can be easily solved with the report button by the those being spammed.
And I agree with What you say, it really shouldn't be a change in the limits, but rather something monitored by the individual on if they get notification bombed and then dealt with case by case
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In any case, if its not broke, don't fix it.
We already have a rule for spam and mass notifications without a proper perpose is spam and to be dealt with by a moderator
Certainly I didn't know about notifications and how to do them for quite some time, so it wouldn't of mattered during the first 10 posts anyway. And what's the chances of newcomers knowing many people?
I know in who's that pokemon I relied on mass notification to revive the thread once it was my turn. But I only did it once and those that wanted to play posted. Then it was a matter of putting notifications on the post for those that requested it when the new clue was up.
If there was a limit then with the amount of people I wanted to notify, I would of had to spread it over posts. And then what? Notify a moderator to merge them together? How annoying would that get to moderators.
And I can just imagine the conversation with those that I would have to notify in the next available post if there was a limit.
Person: oh cool! Wait... You didn't notify me earlier. You like them more then me >:/
Me: sorry, had a notification limit
Person: sssuuuurrrreee. Blame it on the system.
I know in the trading forum there has been raffles with 100 people and that those people are notified when they are put on the list, which is handy cos then you know you got a number or that you need to pick another one.
And if we have a limit, you'll have to think about clans as well, the OP often has all the members notified for when the new thread is up so members know not to post on the old one.
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quote ctrlI can see what you mean, but doesn't a notification get deleted from a persons list of notifications received, if they get on after the notification is deleted? Cos I'm pretty sure that's what's happened with meAnd for those of you that are for limiting the amount of notifications. It doesn't matter what you cap it off at because the user that made the mass notification can go back and edit their post, remove those being notified, and add in others. And the system will still notify those that were edited out of the post. So if they do a cap at 10, then all the user would have to do is edit out the first 10 in the list and then add in the next, and keep doing this until they have as many people notified as they want.
quote ctrlSo far that's basically what's been happening, where moderators get reports sent to them about a massive notification and then dealt with it.I honestly think that this should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis[size=1]
And it really is more of a spamming notifications to a small amount of people, and doing the notifications throughout neoseeker forums that is the problem. And this can be easily solved with the report button by the those being spammed.
And I agree with What you say, it really shouldn't be a change in the limits, but rather something monitored by the individual on if they get notification bombed and then dealt with case by case
[size=1][color=#666666]This message was edited on 2011-06-17T20:27:09-07:00.
Jun 18, 11 at 12:59amGeo
Yes, as mentioned by Mac, notification bombing can be useful when used correctly. The Pokeforums such as Clans, Battles, Strategy and whatnot have constantly been using bombs to notify battlers of updates/announcements. The number of people to be notified would usually go up to >30 in such cases, and notified by normal members.
And it would be fruitful to use the notification bombs for guideline reminders, especially on the Trading forum where people can run amok when unattended.
Aurora is right about having a notification limit though, specially for guests/newer members. There's the possibility of having a guest/bot dropping bombs - not good.
In any case, I don't think clicking on the notification button at the top would hurt. One can just ignore the notification entirely. I'm guilty of that sometimes.
And it would be fruitful to use the notification bombs for guideline reminders, especially on the Trading forum where people can run amok when unattended.
Aurora is right about having a notification limit though, specially for guests/newer members. There's the possibility of having a guest/bot dropping bombs - not good.
In any case, I don't think clicking on the notification button at the top would hurt. One can just ignore the notification entirely. I'm guilty of that sometimes.
Jun 18, 11 at 12:40amMister MacPhisto
Jun 15, 11 at 2:10pmLorx
Jun 14, 11 at 10:28pmFluroclad
Jun 14, 11 at 7:42pmHraefn
Jun 14, 11 at 7:14amctrl
quote Fatal ErrorIt wasn't spam. Supers didn't say it was. Forum moderator didn't say it was. So memberating and accusing doesn't prove this suggestion anymore valid.Ctrl, you have used the feature to spam already. Notification bombing is spam. No reason to wait when an easy fix is just making some notifications optional.
[EDIT] - Okay so I went through the thread and so far there are 12 people that are FOR the suggestion, and 31 against it.
And for those of you that are for limiting the amount of notifications. It doesn't matter what you cap it off at because the user that made the mass notification can go back and edit their post, remove those being notified, and add in others. And the system will still notify those that were edited out of the post. So if they do a cap at 10, then all the user would have to do is edit out the first 10 in the list and then add in the next, and keep doing this until they have as many people notified as they want.
I honestly think that this should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Just as what all the other mature users have said in the previous pages.
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Jun 14, 11 at 6:52amFatal Error
Jun 14, 11 at 5:42amGuardianReaver
quote HraefnI like the compromise of having it as "X mentioned you and # others in a forum message". I don't know about the highlighting, though. Also, I don't think auto-reading notifications is the way to go -- what if we don't log in again until a day or so later? We might miss out on some interesting or important notifications that way.
quote PritstickI think having some small detail that indicates you were mentioned more then the one time in the same thread could be helpful. I like the +1, +2, +x idea personaly. You could eventually have added utility and make it a pop down or expand so you can select different posts. So...Yes, "X mentioned you and # others in a forum message" seems like a good idea. Perhaps the auto read isn't a good idea (although maybe it could be an option?). I think the highlighting would make it immediately clearer which notifications are higher priority (ie. directed at you personally) than the others - the highlighted ones would be mass notifications and therefore probably less important for you to respond to... What don't you like about the highlighting idea?
Hraefn +2 mentioned you in a forum message.
But there doesn't need to be added special colors or what not. Honestly I would rather know where the message is comming from then how many it is comming from. Why don't we have the thread title as part of the notification system?
Hraefn +2 mentioned you in [Suggestion] Stop Excessive Notifications.
I like it.
For thread titles that are too long it would brobably have to use ...