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Jan 13, 11 at 10:29pmmjw46368

The new generation of pokemon bothers me. I had not caught mew in leafgreen, but I had a handbook i got at a store which had its definition as the ancestor of all pokemon. Then I got a newer handbook, saying that Arceus was the creator of the universe. Now there's a debate in my head wondering which was the first. I mean, they can't just change that! They have research that proves that mew can learn any move from any pokemon in any generation of pokemon games. Now arceus shows up and they think he is the ultimate pokemon? He can change types, but thats about it. it can only learn TM moves of the type of its held plate, come on! Please help me.

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Jun 19, 14 at 9:32pm

I've got three different theories for you all. One is they were born from the same thing/egg and created the Pokemon universe together. 2. Mew evolved into all other Pokemon. While arceus created his own diminsion while having two trios of Pokemon to take his spot. (yes it is shown in bot the movies and the games arceus created his OWN universe.) The last one is Both are false. Based off of incomplete facts or from ancient peoples who thought these Pokemon were gods. And as stated in bubipedia (who only 80% trust) Mew is based on an embryo ands cat. While arceus is based on the BELIEF of a creater deity and a really freaky (but cool) Goat. Hope this helps somewhat.

Jun 07, 14 at 8:17am

Mew will always be first because *bleep* you.

May 29, 14 at 9:55am

I mean seriously they first discovered Mew then they come up with this junk I mean really Mew was the first theory so Mew was obviously the first
If one say new it kept auto correcting

May 20, 14 at 6:50pm

quote OGPokemonMaster
There's no confirmed pokemon who came first. But before sinnoh they said that mew was the first pokemon and he's the ancestor of all pokemon. Beleive it or not arceus is a pokemon. And since when is arceus the "God" pokemon. If he was god he could've seen that event coming unlike mew who catched on about mew two ad was able to match him. Arceus hatched from an egg, that egg could've came from mew and that does explain why mew had the gentic DNA of ever pokemon and why it can learn every move. In my opinion it's new but nobody knoews right now *cough cough * new

May 20, 14 at 6:12pm

There's no confirmed pokemon who came first. But before sinnoh they said that mew was the first pokemon and he's the ancestor of all pokemon. Beleive it or not arceus is a pokemon. And since when is arceus the "God" pokemon. If he was god he could've seen that event coming unlike mew who catched on about mew two ad was able to match him. Arceus hatched from an egg, that egg could've came from mew and that does explain why mew had the gentic DNA of ever pokemon and why it can learn every move. In my opinion it's new but nobody knoews right now *cough cough * new

May 13, 14 at 7:49pm


Mar 03, 14 at 2:56pm

Arceus created the universe and mew, mew created all other pokemon.

Mar 02, 14 at 9:29am
Theorist No.34475

you forget, arceus is only called a diety in sinnoh myths, he is still a pokemon, if a powerful one. its just as likely that mew existed before everything else.

Feb 15, 14 at 5:25pm

I think you all are forgetting that mew is not some deity. Mew is a species of pokemon that lived a long time ago and eventually evolved into the pokemon that are around today. Mew didnt create any pokemon. Mew probably came about the same way the first animals did on earth. first single celled organisms then more and more complicated ones until eventually mew came about. Arceus created the pokemon/deities that created the universe so he had to come before everything else.

Jan 29, 14 at 5:07pm

Hi there! I'm Zelcoor. ... I have a hypothesis that puts everyone's arguments to rest. This is some deep philosophy stuff so brace yourselves.

OK so it starts like this..... A complete empty void of nothing.... then a wormhole opens up and a violent torrent of mass enters the universe contain what? A single object a imperfect sphere-like object. What is it? [b][/b] An egg. This egg contained a being that existed somewhere else from an entire different being one that you and I could not comprehend. Now this egg hatched in this torrent of destruction and pain hatching one sole object. The original object of this world. Arceus..... Knowing not where he came from or what he was he did the only thing his instinct told him to do, what his purpose was. He created. His first creation was of his very own egg sack, he created a small creature, a vague being....Mew.....
Knowing of his power arcues created more... out of the nothingness.... SPACE....out of the emptiness......TIME.... He made beings of power and stature and then arcues rested....

Mew seeing everything and being the first created had all of the materiel arcues could make. Mew too could create.. Mew created! The planets the oceans everything. ...He made pokemon......little did arcues and mew know they were not the original creators there was another somewhere else...
never to be discovered. .....

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