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Aug 09, 10 at 2:24pmAngyles Cerddoriaeth


Thanks to Dean who showed me this article, and thanks to Grizzly for showing it to Dean, I think that was the chain.

Anywho:

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This topic is not a new one, and we know it's a concern for our players and our player-parents. We hear perennial complaints about spots in our game where this activity is said to take place, and Moon Guard Goldshire appears in that list with some regularity.

Often the public assumption is that unless a GM appears with a crack of lightning and a mighty hammer, Blizzard is turning a blind eye.... this is very much not the case, so I'm hoping to shed a little more light on this topic from Blizzard's perspective.

For reference, the In-Game Harassment Policy:
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20226

Our Intent
It's our goal (and in our interests, obviously), to present a safe and accessible environment for play. While defining "offensive" behavior can be subjective, the policy linked above reflects our working definition, and our intent to keep certain types of offensive behavior from affecting the play experience.

Enforcement
With millions of players in hundreds of servers and thousands of channels, it is impossible to manually monitor everywhere. To this end, World of Warcraft provides features to help players protect themselves and help us moderate accordingly:

- Profanity/obscenity filter to automatically intercept the most obvious offensive language
- The ability to report any player violating the rules
- Ignore functionality to remove individuals from appearing in chat

No single one of these, by itself, is always sufficient. It's critical to understand the rules we're enforcing, and where they apply. Relevant to this case, whisper chat between two consenting individuals, guildmates, etc is not an area we are out to pro-actively police. Any offensive in-game behavior needs to be reported in order to receive the right followup.

"Punish in Private"
Some posters on this thread have suggested that Blizzard ignores those reports. From several years as a manager for our call centers, I can promise you that we take action routinely.... because they call us. Or they email us. Sometimes there's blame placed on a roommate or sibling, sometimes an account thief committed the offense, etc. The point is that players appeal because players receive actions. You won't see it happen.... well, unless it happens to you. Otherwise you can only decide whether you will take our word on it.

Okay, what now?
Members of our CS team will 'patrol' Goldshire on Moon Guard on a regular basis, and take appropriate action for individuals violating the Harassment Policy. Note that this pertains primarily to public messages (/say, /yell, General) and unsolicited whispers. We won't be showing up with that mythical crack of lightning-- we'll just be watching silently for any rule-breaking language and following up privately with the player[s] in question.
Many US players know about the magic that is the RP Moon Guard server, specifically in Goldshire. It is always full, and when I say always I mean always, of erotic roleplaying.

Now that you have stopped laughing, Blizz has now decided based on an issue to start patroling the General chat there to cut down on what is said.

My point of bringing this up is not for whether you are lol'ing at the antics there, but whether or not Blizz is taking it too far. Are they prohibiting players from doing what they "want" to do?

I know this is their game, and they can decide what is right and what is not, but I am asking for your personal opinion on whether you think Blizz should crack down on this, or just let the players continue to do what they want to.

So opinions?

Thread Recap (last 10 posts from newest to oldest)

Dec 08, 12 at 5:35pm
Sir Auron


quote Thelovebug
This is world of warcraft. If you allow your child to play this, you know you're going to be exposing your child to cursing, harassment, and a lot of sexual themes. I don't see anything wrong with erotic RPing. If you have a problem with it, cancel your subscription to WoW or shut up about it. It's ridiculous to punish players for having a little mature fun on what's supposed to be a mature game. It's rated Teen, and by 13, I already knew about s*x (new here. not sure what's allowed and what's not, but since it's on subject, I hope they cut me slack? Idk.) and that was in school they taught it. So unless you're trying to shelter your child (Which is a bad idea), I suggest shutting up about it. It's not killing anyone and if nerds want to get off to pixels, let 'em! I was sheltered. I am now a potsmoker who drinks whenever handed a bottle. I break laws most people don't dare to. I wasn't let out of the house onto the porch because my mother thought I was going to be kidnapped. But I digress. My point in all this being? Just let the kid see it. He's going to watch porn at some point. You parent's aren't so worried about that. So why worry if your child is talking dirty pretending to be a 25 yr old babe? Same as pr0n. pr0n is worse, actually! Because you see the actions. So tl;dr is.. don't shelter the kid. he'll grow up like me. i'm 19 and Idk where my life's goin. Don't make your kid turn into where i am today. That's no way to live. Trust me. Not to mention that there's an ignore and mature language filter feature. so. sorry for not sympathizing with blizzard but they are being unreasonable. if you don't want your kid exposed, don't give him the tools to do so.
/endrant
I disagree. Telling someone not to play wow to avoid explicit sexual content in a public channel is like saying if you dont want to see people having sex on the produce don't shop at that store. We have laws to keep that stuff away from public view. And if blizzard wishes to enforce their own policies against it, then by all means. Their is no reason they can't do that crap in whispers.



Dec 01, 12 at 6:50am
nygamebox


Its good that blizz is going out of their way to monitor a specific server but, for how long will they keep this up? There are also other servers that are full of this type of activity that need moderating. If Blizz is going to be monitoring one server at specific zone they might as well hire enough team members to monitor all servers where "pornographic activity" is likely to take place.

Cybering doesn't start nor end with moon guard. Its a good thing they've taken the initiative though



Nov 18, 12 at 9:11am
Thelovebug


This is world of warcraft. If you allow your child to play this, you know you're going to be exposing your child to cursing, harassment, and a lot of sexual themes. I don't see anything wrong with erotic RPing. If you have a problem with it, cancel your subscription to WoW or shut up about it. It's ridiculous to punish players for having a little mature fun on what's supposed to be a mature game. It's rated Teen, and by 13, I already knew about s*x (new here. not sure what's allowed and what's not, but since it's on subject, I hope they cut me slack? Idk.) and that was in school they taught it. So unless you're trying to shelter your child (Which is a bad idea), I suggest shutting up about it. It's not killing anyone and if nerds want to get off to pixels, let 'em! I was sheltered. I am now a potsmoker who drinks whenever handed a bottle. I break laws most people don't dare to. I wasn't let out of the house onto the porch because my mother thought I was going to be kidnapped. But I digress. My point in all this being? Just let the kid see it. He's going to watch porn at some point. You parent's aren't so worried about that. So why worry if your child is talking dirty pretending to be a 25 yr old babe? Same as pr0n. pr0n is worse, actually! Because you see the actions. So tl;dr is.. don't shelter the kid. he'll grow up like me. i'm 19 and Idk where my life's goin. Don't make your kid turn into where i am today. That's no way to live. Trust me. Not to mention that there's an ignore and mature language filter feature. so. sorry for not sympathizing with blizzard but they are being unreasonable. if you don't want your kid exposed, don't give him the tools to do so.
/endrant



Sep 19, 12 at 9:18am
Johanna1984


First of all, WoW really isn't for younger players-they just have too much trouble figuring the game out...I've seen them struggle. Second, it's the parents' job to supervise the kids And third, I don't mind Blizzard stepping in to prevent harassment, but banning erp isn't the way to go...look at just about any fantasy novel and you'll find sexual content! I just wish they'd ban the amateurs whose idea of erp is standing naked in Goldshire, screaming "DO ME NOW!!!"...it would improve the gameplay experience considerably.



Sep 20, 10 at 8:11pm
Kryptomaniac


Yep people just can't appreciate this game. Many people know about this... about 3/4 through a podcast from Wow.com their is a discussion on it.

http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/08/13/wow-insider-show-episode-152-federal-unemployment-tax-act/#continued



Aug 11, 10 at 3:39am
Spark


Aug 09, 10 at 4:19pm
Sonic Flash


Fapping to games is a poor watering down of both mediums.

Fap, then go quest somewhere with your pants up. Specialize and prioritize.

And I wasn't aware of a realm called Moon Guard. I just as much assumed that Blizzard would be patrolling the moon (moonkins can play the race card to keep the po' away but we still get caught ridin' dirty (or "wide 'n' birdy" if you prefer). I know Goldshire or a haven of crap on RP servers though. I regard it as the Mos Eisley of WoW; a wretched hive of scum and villainy and lvl-1 paladins.




Aug 09, 10 at 4:05pm
Archangel


I say good on them. This is supposed to be a game for everyone, and a lot of younger children play. As dath said, rolling a human and being the first city to go to and having to witness that kind of garbage is a little much. Hell, I'm all for people doing what they want, but do it in whisper/party/raid chat, or go to secluded areas, ie: tram tunnel.



Aug 09, 10 at 4:03pm
1david10


Blizz taking a more stern approach to this can only be a good thing but announcing it on the forums is only going to give an already griever filled realm more publicity for other grievers. They could have just started monitoring it but kept it quite.



Aug 09, 10 at 3:39pm
dathboy


I'd be pretty pissed off if I had just bought the game and made a Human on that realm to find a bunch of people cybering in the first town I got to. Would give a pretty skewed outlook on the rest of the game too, could even turn some people off playing any further. With that in mind, no, Blizz aren't over reacting to this, if anything it should have been dealt with earlier.



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