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Mar 17, 13 at 9:51am
Watain
I got a few things to say about the intro:
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Having Devil May Cry on the box with some black haired guy who has the same fashion sense as Dante from that series made me think
*makes me think
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But then I remember long before the game came out that the guy on the box... is actually a redesign of Dante because Ninja Theory, the developers Capcom trusted to continue the Devil May Cry lineage with, wanted to inject a different flavor to the franchise because a more western approach was necessary after Devil May Cry 4 turned out to be nowhere near as good as Devil May Cry 3 and had too much anime shit in it to be a coincidence.
even with this re-edit, it still just comes across as sloppy writing. in general, I think you had a good idea with the intro, but when it came to execution, you just couldn't figure out a way to make it work properly.
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So with a change in designs and mood, how does Ninja Theory execute this game?
while technically well written, you pretty much never really explain this throughout the review, besides a couple of points here:
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People can criticize the old Dante for being a one dimensional character, but he's a GOOD one dimensional character. He wasn't trying to be relatable; he's too busy kicking ass and dispensing one liners to really care about relatability. New Dante? Well, he does roughly the same things... just not as well, especially his one liners that are more cringeworthy than cool in that "SO BAD IT'S GOOD" kind of way. Oh, and he tries to have depth that winds up being shallower than a *bleep*ing kiddy pool. Yes, the old DMC games have shit stories too, but they don't focus on it so much. They introduce and then end each level with cutscenes. That's it. Here in new DMC however, the cutscenes are longer and far more common. The more space a story takes up, the better it ought to be, and considering its lack of being any good, well, it's really crap.
other than that, you basically review it as its own entity despite mentioning a change in designs and mood, which would make the reader think that it'd have some subtle comparisons here and there.
and while I have this up, I have a few problems with this section.
1) old DMC also had cutscenes to introduce the bosses. I also think that there were a few cutscenes at certain points in levels. 2) you don't really do a good job of making a bad case for new Dante. I get that the idea was to make him look like his one liners are crap and his attempt at depth is cringeworthy, but you don't really communicate that too well. should probably revise that. 3) the transition from Dante to the general story is too abrupt. 4) actually, the other characters do have their own things going for them, and honestly, I expected you to rip onto them. I'm very disappointed.
and in general, it feels like you spend far too much time on the story. yes, there is far more emphasis put on the story and Dante himself, but it feels like you spend more time communicating that the story and Dante is edgy than actually talking about why the story sucks (and it does suck, I definitely agree with you on that).
and just going to the paragraph above it:
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but they insert some inner demons to try and make him more relatable. The problem, however, is that he's just a giant douche. Granted, Tameem's a giant douche whenever he talks shit about Japanese games while talking up DmC as the next big masterpiece in gaming so I guess it makes sense to make Dante like this, but when you aim to make a character relateable, you can't really turn them into complete pricks. His personality suits the story very well... in that it's got the kind of writing you'd expect from a kid who's just discovered atheism.
first off, what do you mean by "inner demons"? like how is he being tormented deep inside? secondly, the last sentence comes too abruptly after the one before, like there was meant to be another sentence right in between to help smooth the transition.
and when it comes to the gameplay paragraphs, you seem to just rag on how unchallenging the enemies are without really going into what makes them so. just saying "most enemies, when they don't get stuck in a loop or just stand there, really aren't that hard to read and counter" doesn't really help your case as much as you would like it to. if anything, it sounds like you're just making the same blanket statement, only changing several key words to make it seem like you're making a case when you're just repeating yourself. and holy *bleep* dude, an entire paragraph on the difficulty modes? I get what you're saying - that you have to play it twice in order to unlock the difficulty modes with any challenge which is a bitch (and yep, another point I completely agree with), but at the same time, it seems like a bit of an overkill to me.
that's about all I have to say about it. technically, you've written a decent review, but it seems like you just put this one up in a hurry which makes no sense because DmC has been out for a while already. but oh well. maybe with what I said, you can make it an awesome review like it has the right to be!
But then I remember long before the game came out that the guy on the box... is actually a redesign of Dante because Ninja Theory, the developers Capcom trusted to continue the Devil May Cry lineage with, wanted to inject a different flavor to the franchise because a more western approach was necessary after Devil May Cry 4 turned out to be nowhere near Devil May Cry 3's level and had too much anime shit in it to be a coincidence.
wait a minute, so because Ninja Theory wanted to inject a more western flavor to the DMC series, they change Dante's look? I don't know, this part makes no sense to me.
D'oh, I can't believe I missed that! I changed it to make more sense. Thanks for spotting that!
Don't worry, my next review won't take a month and a half to do.
I'll hold you to that.
Oh believe me, it won't actually take too long. It's only a *bleep*ing Super Nintendo game I'm reviewing anyway.
Mar 14, 13 at 6:08pm
Lukas
have fun with the DmC fanboys
For the most part I liked reading this but this part stood out to me in a bad way
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But then I remember long before the game came out that the guy on the box... is actually a redesign of Dante because Ninja Theory, the developers Capcom trusted to continue the Devil May Cry lineage with, wanted to inject a different flavor to the franchise because a more western approach was necessary after Devil May Cry 4 turned out to be nowhere near Devil May Cry 3's level and had too much anime shit in it to be a coincidence.
wait a minute, so because Ninja Theory wanted to inject a more western flavor to the DMC series, they change Dante's look? I don't know, this part makes no sense to me.
Don't worry, my next review won't take a month and a half to do.
I'll hold you to that.
Mar 14, 13 at 7:46am
Gryzor
Hey guys, I keep forgetting to update this thing... or even post reviews, for that matter.
You guys already know about my Spec Ops: The Line review, but I've also submitted a review for DmC. The Neoseeker version of the DmC review is in the CRS so I'm linking to the Sign Far Beyond page for now. Don't worry, my next review won't take a month and a half to do.
I keep forgetting to update this, but I might as well to end the year on my end. My next review will be submitted in 2013.
May 19, 12 at 4:19pm
Solid Snake 4Life
Nice Assassins Creed reviews Gryzor. While I personally enjoyed the second game a little more than you seemed to, I do agree with a lot of your points about it.
