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Apr 01, 08 at 1:57pmkspiess

Good day,

Today Neoseeker takes a look at the XFX 9800 GTX.

You can find the review right over here:

Thanks,
Kevin

Thread Recap (last 10 posts from newest to oldest)

Apr 29, 08 at 2:15am
kspiess

It's possible there may have been some slight bottlenecking going on with the SLI setups. Single GPU's shouldn't be a prob though, checkout this article I wrote :
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Guides/cpu_bottlenecks/7.html

Testing is now done on a system running at 3.2 GHz and memory running over a 1000 MHz.



Apr 16, 08 at 1:55pm
sam034

Eeeehm, maybe I'm a total noob, but it looks like the cpu is the bottleneck in some of these benchmarks, like World in conflict.





Apr 04, 08 at 4:33am
Tweaker

quote CrankyOldBastard
Garbage, garbage, garbage, this card is no better than the 8800gtx. Nvidia will keep putting out the same card under a different name until ATI comes out with a strong competitor. You can't even say it's a good buy considering NewEgg is selling the 8800GTX for $50 less. And please, stop relying on reviews from this site, the testing methods are less than adequate. This is a superior review .
Only one is about the same price as the 9800 while the others are still $80-100 more at the moment. Its a great buy for people with older rigs looking to check out DX10 with great playability vs people who just upgraded to a 8 series based card... Seriously I knew this thing wasnt going to be that great and it wasnt hard to tell due to the manufacturing processes available right now along with the slow competition like you noted... Also dude if you dont like the reviews then stay a grumpy ass troll on another forum site like the hard oc forums where they the review products how you feel is right.



Apr 04, 08 at 12:22am
dvrocc

Not a bad card, I checked out a few Google videos from Tigerdirect about the 9800X2 seems like the drivers need more work then anything always a next generation card with the same old buggy drivers from 4 generations ago. Nvidia better not pull there stunt where they drop support for a past generation to force people to upgrade much like they did with the 7000 series Nvidia's. Allot of devoted waved goodbye to Nvidia for that and went full on ATI and I don't blame them I am one of those now a full ATI X1950Pro, only time will tell about the GX2.



Apr 03, 08 at 11:06pm
kspiess

quote Iceguy2003
I'm still hoping all these reviews are April Fool's jokes. Guess that would have been unveiled by now. The 9800GTX was rumored to be twice the card of an 8800GTX in real world testing. WTF happened to that?

This review here from neo mirrors what the one from hardocp says, practically. And they both are saying that the 8800GTX and GTS are practically the same performance as the 9800GTX, sometimes better, sometimes worse, but always within a few fps.

Gay if you ask me.

Come on, tell me it's a joke. TELL ME!!!
Nah its the truth.

NVIDIA is already hyping up there next generation of cards, so expect that gen to offer the huge jumps.

The 9800 GTX can be considered a 8800 GTX II. In a perfect world it would have been sold as a 8900 GTX.

Nonetheless it isn't a bad card, as I've been saying.

One thing to keep in mind is that when the 8800 GTX came out, it did offer a huge jump in performance, but it also came on the market around the $600 mark, whereas this GTX will be selling for about half that.





Apr 03, 08 at 11:04pm
kspiess

quote CrankyOldBastard
Garbage, garbage, garbage, this card is no better than the 8800gtx. Nvidia will keep putting out the same card under a different name until ATI comes out with a strong competitor. You can't even say it's a good buy considering NewEgg is selling the 8800GTX for $50 less. And please, stop relying on reviews from this site, the testing methods are less than adequate. This is a superior review .
It's true that the 8800GTX and 9800GTX offer very similar levels of performance. In fact at *really* higher resolutions, you are better off going with the 8800GTX.

But that doesn't mean the 9800GTX is a bad card.

Many reviews, such as the one linked, trashed this card because it isn't much of a performance jump from the 8800GTX. But in my opinion, that is sort of throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Ya it is confusing that NVIDIA totally mixes stuff up often. If naming conventions were written in stone than the 9800GTX should be $600 and offer twice the level of performance it does.

But if you totally don't look at the names at all, and compare this card to what is available, and for what it offers for $300 - $350, it is a good card. Of course this is all my own opinion -- I can see your point of view, and many reviewers share your point of view, but I don't feel this way.

As for the testing methods, you might be happy to hear I'm going to be switching Crysis to a FRAPS run instead of the built-in bench, which was shown by OCP to be not the best bench. I'd be open to more suggestions on improving testing methods, but as I said before, I can't FRAPS run 6 games and 8 cards at different settings for every review, that's just not reasonable. Although my current system isn't perfect (no system is) the results are not totally unreliable either.





Apr 03, 08 at 10:57pm
kspiess

quote Crash65675
I am wondering if anyone can suggest which may be faster for 1920x1200 w/FSAA and SLI configuration:

9800GTX or a Palit GeForce 8800 GTS 1GB Sonic

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/683/1/
http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=631

__________________Core___ Shader__Memory___Memory_______Memory
__________________Clock___Clock___ Clock___________________Interface
__________________(MHz)__ (MHz)___(MHz)_________________________
8800 GTS Sonic____730___ 1625?____1050_____1GB GDDR3____256-bit
9800 GTX__________675___ 1688_____1100_____512MB GDDR3__256-bit


Hey !

My next article is a look at the Palit 9800 GTX, with a focus on SLI performance.

Going to compare 8800 GT sLI, 9600 GT SLI, 9800GTX SLI, and 8800 GTS 512MB SLI.

Should be going up on Monday.




Apr 03, 08 at 10:56pm
kspiess

quote Tweaker
Dang I just looked on newegg and it was $325... not too bad at all man though thats probably the $100 price difference for the 320mb mem bus lol. Dunno thats a random guess of mine but for real that is a good buy for people who have older X1k or 7 series cards. Another good review Kevin.
Thanks dude.



Apr 03, 08 at 10:55pm
kspiess

quote axforts2212
yea i kinda wish we had axis on the graphs

Whoa whoa whoa whoa hold up.

What's wrong the graphs? They appear fine to me? What info is missing from the axis? Have you guys ever had that problem with older graphs?

Please let me know. Really concerned. Thanks.



Apr 03, 08 at 7:04pm
Iceguy2003

I'm still hoping all these reviews are April Fool's jokes. Guess that would have been unveiled by now. The 9800GTX was rumored to be twice the card of an 8800GTX in real world testing. WTF happened to that?

This review here from neo mirrors what the one from hardocp says, practically. And they both are saying that the 8800GTX and GTS are practically the same performance as the 9800GTX, sometimes better, sometimes worse, but always within a few fps.

Gay if you ask me.

Come on, tell me it's a joke. TELL ME!!!



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