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The Living Angelus
Jan 14, 06 at 4:17pm
Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

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WWE is all about shock these days. Changing storylines without a seconds notice and crowning new champions without so much of one spoiler site breaking the news beforehand. They've even went on to dominate the web by revealing spoilers first.

BUT....

Under no circumstance are any of you allowed to create a spoiler thread just because you saw it posted on wwe.com. If it's a spoiler and relates to RAW and/or Smackdown it goes in the S&R thread. If it's a spoiler and relates to TNA Wrestling, it goes in the TNA Central thread. If it's a spoiler and relates to the PPV, it goes in the PPV thread(s) [one for WWE and one for TNA]. ALL spoilers are to be hidden within quotes using white font. This goes for SmackDown spoilers and PPV related.

Now, some of you are reading this going "Who the *bleep* cares, I know this TLA, it's stated exactly so in the forum rules so what the hell's your point", right? Well, I appreciate that, but there are a lot who don't and they have chose to ignore those Forum Rules even after I re-floated them (which if they would have taken just an extra second to look over the forum instead of scrolling down to spam whatever topic is nearest to the top they'd have seen the link's been in the forum header for almost a year as well as the Index link however outdated it may be). This past week we saw two new champions crowned on each respective show, and as so we saw an abundance of "Edge" threads and who knows how many Kurt Angle topics (two I've closed/deleted, one I know of that Deathman48 closed).


LOOK, you are not helping the forum out by posting the info. You are a detriment to the forum and only spoil the show for those of us who appreciate being 'shocked' for the first time by actually watching the event and/or if we live in another country are are forced to await the weekend (ie. our UK members; is it still Saturday morning and Saturday night for RAW and then SmackDown? I'm not sure if it's changed but that's what I was told 3 years ago and what I've been going by ever since so can we officially clarify this now).

I don't care what spoiler warning you give in the thread title. DO NOT CREATE A SPOILER THREAD, PERIOD! For the Edge spoiler we had a member put "[Spoiler] Major Title Change at NYRevolution". So what do I get, an excuse via PM:

quote *removed member*
In all fairness the title did say [Spoiler]Major Title Change At New Years Revolution. I can't be blamed for them choosing to read a spoiler and it spoiling a show. HENCE THE TERM "SPOILER". It'd be different if the title was:
"OMFG EDGE = WWE CHAMP. CENA ROXXORS THO ROFLMAO."
Well, no mention of who is the new champion, but the fact you put a title change happened at the ppv in the thread title itself spoiled the event for those awaiting RAW to see what happened. Everyone could expect Cena to have lost and when they watched the encore presentation of the PPV and saw him win the Elimination Chamber only to have that "shock moment" occur when Edge came out, they'd know right then, at that moment is when Cena would lose the belt. Thanks for ruining that rare moment of complete and absolute shock that all of us miss from our days of watching WWE in the mid-90's.

Even worse, we have members going into all the individual topics and spoiling the show by saying "hey, so-and-so is returning at the Royal Rumble" or "Blah, blah blah about the individual wrestler which is me just basically spamming to remain on topic only so I can do this : PS. Spoiler about the PPV, Highlight to read the quote below [Congrats on winning the belt]".

No more. This thread is one of those final straw things where when I ban you for 20 days, I feel no remorse for doing so because I can't get any clearer in my warnings. If you create a spoiler thread during anytime of the week following RAW you will be banned.** If you create a spoiler topic anytime during the week about the SmackDown spoilers you will be banned.** If you create a spoiler topic anytime during the week about TNA Wrestling spoilers, you will be banned.** If you go into any of the individual topics outside the S&R, Central, and WWE/TNA PPV threads and spoil what happened on any of the shows, you will be banned regardless of what the excuse is and regardless of the spoiler warning you provide. Anyone participating within the spoiler threads and/or carrying on the spoiler in the individual topics once a spoiler has been blurted out will receive a ban as well. It's called "'TARDifying", read the rules.

Oh, and as in the last Spoiler warning thread (see link at top of page), if any of you feel otherwise, that I'm being too harsh, blah blah - TLA needs to be demoted and I need to replace him - blah blah, well I'm leaving this open for you to voice your opinion/concern. But a fair warning, chances are I'm not going to listen to them.


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Jan 14, 06 at 4:31pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

Just for clarification TLA, RAW is now on Thursday night in the UK, SmackDown! is on Friday night and Saturday morning.



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Jan 14, 06 at 4:40pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

Raw is also shown live on Monday Night in the UK.

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Jan 14, 06 at 4:41pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

quote The Shape
Raw is also shown live on Monday Night in the UK.
True, but it's on at 2am or something like that, hardly anyone really watches it live so I'd say the "spoiler" date should still be for after the Thursday night showing.


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Jan 14, 06 at 4:45pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

Meh, I tape it and watch it the next day, but I suppose it is common sense to have the spoiler date as after thursday, when everyone who intends to watch it will have.

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The Living Angelus
Jan 14, 06 at 4:46pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

But isn't that in the AM though on Monday? How many of you actually stay up that late to watch RAW?

Either way, thanks for clarifying that.

Edit: Beat to it. Yeah, the rule will still hold. Friday is SmackDown night for everyone, but still wait until after the weekend to branch out of the S&R threads. RAW, the same; wait until friday or the weekend to branch out.

Might need to clarify this as well while I'm asking, what night do you guys get TNA?
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Jan 14, 06 at 4:53pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

I'd just like to add that I fully agree with what TLA is saying. The other day I had the Heavyweight title change spoiled for me by someone making a thread on it with the actual spoiler in the title. I don't watch Wrestling at University because I can't, so when I'm at home during the holidays when I can watch it it's very frustrating. If I see any blatant spoilers like that I'll be editing them out of the title and then when TLA comes online he can deal with you however he sees fit.

It's just common courtesy. We can't cater to everyone, but the spoiler and rumour thread is there for Raw/SmackDown! discussion in the periods after the US sees it and before the UK mostly does. The fact WWE.com had the spoiler up makes no difference, if someone breaks the rules and you copy them, guess what? You're breaking the rules too.

It's a shame because a lot of people do things sensibly, abide by the rules and have good discussions. But when TLA inevitably bans people for breaking obvious rules, you've got no ground to stand on.
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Jan 14, 06 at 4:54pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

I haven't watched iMPACT! for a few weeks but last time I watched [3 to 4 weeks ago] it was around a month or so behind.

Edit: Yeah it was a month. I last watched in December and it was just coming up to Genesis, which was November 13th.


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Jan 14, 06 at 5:11pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

Very shortly (in two weeks I think) we're getting up-to-date TNA iMPACT shows. We'll get them on a Saturday at 9pm on The Wrestling Channel I believe and then they replay several times during the week.

So, we'll be in pretty much the same boat as US fans with regards to TNA.


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Jan 14, 06 at 7:08pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

Thanks for posting this thread, TLA. I hope others read this and understand this. I blew a gasket when I found out about Smackdown early in the week because people posted it all over the forum, just because they said it was on wwe.com and that all of us should have known already. In this forum, it should be that none of us who don't go into the S&R threads, know a single thing about an upcoming show unless the wrestling program stated an upcoming match on the previous show. It takes away from the wrestling show when you already know what's going to happen, taking away one of the best aspects of professional wrestling: unpredictability. No one who didn't know the spoiler beforehand couldn't have come close to predicting what went down on Smackdown, which honestly was quite cool and a nice change of pace for the WWE.


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Jan 15, 06 at 12:11pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

TLA, SmackDown! is shown on Fridays in the UK but its 5 hours before the USA showing of it. So techically, the UK members can spoil SmackDown! for the USA members so maybe you should adress that as well, because say some UK member watches SmackDown! and something shocking happens. Then he/she makes a thread about it unaware that the USA broadcast of SmackDown! starts roughly 2 hours later.


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Jan 15, 06 at 1:52pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

On that note, isn't SmackDown! shown in Canada on a Thursday, not a Friday? They'd be the first people who could potentially spoil the show (other than those who read spoilers).


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Jan 15, 06 at 2:24pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

Yeah thats true. But if I remember correctly, a few weeks ago it was a UK member spoiling SmackDown! on a Friday after the UK broadcasting, talking about Mark Henry's return.



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Jan 15, 06 at 2:49pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

That's fair enough, I'm not denying that. I just wanted to point out that Canada gets it first and is therefore (chronologically at least) most likely to write any spoilers.



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Jan 15, 06 at 7:59pm
re: Spoilers - v.2.(McMahon's ZERO Tolerance Policy)

quote Blue Streak
On that note, isn't SmackDown! shown in Canada on a Thursday, not a Friday? They'd be the first people who could potentially spoil the show (other than those who read spoilers).

Yeah, that's true. That's why whenever I talk about SmackDown!, I post in the Spoiler and Rumor thread and I post with invisible font as well, just to be sure no one gets dissapointed. Anyway, great idea TLA, it'll stop those people from posting the spoilers.

Besides, I don't even know what they gain from that. I mean, why post a spoiler? Does it help discussion? Does it make a interesting subject to talk about, despite everyone seeing the spoiler and being dissapointed? I don't know why they simply can't start a thread about it AFTER the damn thing happened, but they post it before for whatever reason. They should maybe think about us who would be surprised about seeing the thing happen. And when I say that, I don't mean those people who don't know that SmackDown! or Raw shows on this day or that day in whichever country, I mean the people who deliberately post the spoiler, knowing nobody knows it yet. It's dumb, and it doesn't help. :\


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