Computer HardwareXbox GamesGameCubePlaystation 2PSOnePC/Windows GamesGameboy AdvanceDreamcastNintendo 64Gameboy ColorNintendo DSSony PSPXbox 360Nintendo Wii GamesPS3 Games

All Twisted Metal Forums
Neoseeker Forums » PS2 Games » Action and Arcade » Twisted Metal: Black » Sweet tooths family line theory

Twisted Metal: Black Forum

profile  pro reviews  user reviews  cheats  FAQs/Guides  screens  discussion board  

REPLY TO THIS THREAD   START NEW THREAD
Options: Print   subscribe   remove   send to friend   PM this thread to a friendNeoPM
Topic: Sweet tooths family line theory
Jamaf326
unwashed heathen
(guest)

IP: Logged
Oct 20, 04 at 2:14pm
Sweet tooths family line theory

Boy oh boy who ever thought up the plot for this game is a genius listen to this

I think sweet tooth calypso markus kane charlie kane and his some are alll related because in twisted metal 3 markus kane is a homeless man or something who wants his sanity back. If you desipher minions messege in tmb, he says his real name is markus Kane. Obviously charlie kane and son and sweet tooth are all realated. But sweet tooth and calypso might be the same person because they sort of resemble each other but if not he could also be related to everyone else. In minons code, he also states that none of this is real and its all in "his" head.

quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Members, log in or register to remove these ads.
Seeker X
Notoriety is a Priority
Permanently Plugged In



Seeker X's profileNeoPM Seeker X
since: Sep 2003
Jan 08, 05 at 6:49pm
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

And what about Black?...I mean his only purpose for getting in the contest is just to kill Calypso...and he says that he knows Calypsos's weakness



-------------------

quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
isa98
I'm back!!!
true seeker



isa98's profile
total posts: 1141
since: Oct 2004
Jan 10, 05 at 9:05pm
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

Sweet tooth and Calypso are indeed related but there not the same person.



-------------------

"Remember me? Isa98 from the Bronx..."
quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
comrade Ocelot
newseeker

comrade Ocelot's profileEmail comrade Ocelot
total posts: 11
since: Feb 2005
Feb 10, 05 at 5:07am
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

charlie kane is a father of Nedles Kane(sweet tooth) and Calypso is Charlie's brother and sweet tooth's uncle!!!

quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Shadowmire
I'm an Oblivion nerd.
threadnought



Shadowmire's profile
total posts: 588
since: Apr 2005
Nov 18, 05 at 12:34pm
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

Charlie Kane: Minion, and Sweet Tooth and "Roadkill"'s father.

Needles Kane: Sweet Tooth, and his "Alter ego", Calypso. How can he be two people? Because all of it it takes place in Needles' mind. Anything can happen. He's insane.

Marcus Kane: Sweet Tooth's little brother, who because of all his lost family relations, and lack of education...Becomes a poor man begging for money.




That pretty much sums it up...

quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Sharkpoint
Say Hello to my little friend!
threadnought



Sharkpoint's profile
total posts: 693
since: Dec 2005
Jul 25, 06 at 4:07pm
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

"he said it was in my blood."

This line, spoken by the taxi driver's son (charlie Kane) means something. It does not necessarily mean sweettooth and calypso are related, it coul djust mean sweettoooth and charlie kane's son are related (which they are).

People interpret as Calypso is related to them, but that is not necessarily true. He could have simply just wanted sweettooth to run the contest (he liked his attitude). But since he died, he wanted kane boy, because he had sweettoooth blood in him.



-------------------


Thanks to Goth_Raider for the banner!
quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Gregm
U.S.A. First, Service, McCain 08'.
forum raider



Gregm's profileNeoPM Gregm
total posts: 3180
since: Feb 2003
Oct 31, 06 at 7:49pm
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

What of Darktooth from TM2 then? Where is his part in all this?



-------------------
Looking for a condensed Loungin'? Why not visit the GTA Social Forum?
quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
LvilleCardsOwnU
submission happy

LvilleCardsOwnU's profile
total posts: 125
since: Jun 2007
Jun 09, 07 at 2:58pm
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

I have heard alot of thing about sweettooth and his family mostly from the playstation games.

quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Project Genesis
Time to Liberate ourselves from... us?
submission happy



Project Genesis's profileProject Genesis's neohomeEmail Project GenesisNeoPM Project GenesisProject Genesis Fan Art!
total posts: 142
since: Jun 2007
Feb 04, 08 at 4:39pm
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

quote Mystickiller1010
What of Darktooth from TM2 then? Where is his part in all this?
marcus and needles are the same person. while i dont deny that minion was once a kane, i doubt he was really marcus. i think that minion is the demon that calypso stole his powers from when he returned to the land of the living. charlie is the father, marcus/needles is the older, and minion was the younger. by saying its in your blood i think charlie was referencing to needles. every eldest (in my theory) kane in each generation 'inherits' needles. needles apparently has competed in every tm, and there are various suggestions that tm has been going on for many years, and the driver of dark tooth is actually marcus and needles united (that last bit is 100% true it says so in HO)



-------------------
I write messages on money. It's my own form of Social protest. No cheap American is going to destroy a bill with Abe Lincoln's face on it because it says 'I am Your Father'.
quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Project Genesis
Time to Liberate ourselves from... us?
submission happy



Project Genesis's profileProject Genesis's neohomeEmail Project GenesisNeoPM Project GenesisProject Genesis Fan Art!
total posts: 142
since: Jun 2007
Mar 24, 08 at 7:21pm
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

sorry for double posting, but i cant help it. i think charlie kane is the father, and marcus is his son. And those that have played Twisted Metal Lost (sort of a demo playable in TMHO:ETE) know that Charlie Kane and his dead father (Marcus' grandfather) team up with the hopes of killing the original sweet tooth (Marcus' uncle) then kill themselves to end a long line of killers and psychopaths. so my theory is that the craziness of sweet tooth runs through the bloodline, and after the original's death, marcus looses it and becomes the next sweet tooth. this all possible because TMB and TML take place in the past, most likely before marcus was born. this would explain the 'it runs in your blood' and also how needles (sweet tooth) has managed to compete in EVERY Twisted Metal (in the story there have been many, many years of it in succession)



-------------------
I write messages on money. It's my own form of Social protest. No cheap American is going to destroy a bill with Abe Lincoln's face on it because it says 'I am Your Father'.
quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Dantess26
"Hey! I have a Wife and Kids to feed!"
true seeker



Dantess26's profile
total posts: 1030
since: Mar 2008
Jun 09, 08 at 11:43am
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

Darktooth from TM:black and TM2 cannot be the same. Tw:black's description of Darktooth, is that Marcus and Needles become one- Marcus is overcome by his evil, alter-ego Needles Kane. Whereas Darktooth from TM2 is Needles' father... which i presume from this thread is Charlie kane.

I am having real trouble with TM:black. Is there meant to be a unique, storyline movie for each character after you beat War-hawk? Because on my game, there is no wish-granting. Only a brief cutscene of the car going down a road. ROLE ON CREDITS. And no ending cutscence. Is that correct? Or is my disc faulty or something?

quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
OutOfOrder
DrivenByBoredom....
forum fever



OutOfOrder's profileNeoPM OutOfOrder
total posts: 359
since: Jan 2008
Jun 10, 08 at 9:32am
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

This is a very interesting thread. I can't believe I never noticed this before. TBH I've never really given this alot of though but there is one mistake that I've seen repeated throughout this thread. You can't link TM:B to anything other than Black. Black exists in an alternate universe that must be kept seperate from TM1 and 2 and god forbid should anyone include 3 and 4.



quote Dantess26
I am having real trouble with TM:black. Is there meant to be a unique, storyline movie for each character after you beat War-hawk? Because on my game, there is no wish-granting. Only a brief cutscene of the car going down a road. ROLE ON CREDITS. And no ending cutscence. Is that correct? Or is my disc faulty or something?
Damn man did someone pee on your disk? Something is seriously wrong all the characters have epilouges.

You can download all of the ending movies here---->

http://tmalliance.com/movies.shtml

and just for fun-->

http://www.feanor.net/z0r/shock/whiteblack.swf



-------------------
"He stared hard into the darkness, that flowed like the light of some extinguished star."
quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Dantess26
"Hey! I have a Wife and Kids to feed!"
true seeker



Dantess26's profile
total posts: 1030
since: Mar 2008
Jun 10, 08 at 11:27am
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

Well i did buy TM:Black online... they gave me the wrong disc. Then i took it back and got the original. It's scratched... But no endings? DAMN!!! I have the European version (obviously, i live in the UK), would that make a difference? seriously. I played it all along and the endings are non-existant, i thought there wasnt any, and i always wondered that the game was total cack. Storyline wise. Any solutions? Scratch removal?

quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
Dantess26
"Hey! I have a Wife and Kids to feed!"
true seeker



Dantess26's profile
total posts: 1030
since: Mar 2008
Jun 12, 08 at 11:20am
re: Sweet tooths family line theory

Thanks for your help. And thanks alot for the link to all the vids. A great help!

I found out that my disk is fine. The PAL version of Twisted metal: black has had all the cutscenes removed. Damn!!! i thought i could buy the game again (hopefully in better condition this time!) and complete it with everyone again. But the movies arent available for people in UK and the rest of Europe! Oh well...

I thank you again, OutOfOrder, for the vids!

quote   quick quote   edit   quick edit   del  report
[All dates in (PT) time]Threads List   « Next Newest   Next Oldest »
REPLY TO THIS THREAD   START A NEW THREAD


search:
All Twisted Metal Forums
Neoseeker Forums » PS2 Games » Action and Arcade » Twisted Metal: Black » Sweet tooths family line theory



Jump to another forum:

Powered by neoforums v0.9.4 (equilibrium)
Copyright Neo Era Media, Inc. 1999-2008

neoseeker forum community
Neoseeker.com   |   Forum Rules   |   Forum FAQ   |   Neoseeker Terms of Use   |   Supermods On Duty [ server id: barracuda ··· elapsed: 0.1501750946]
Affiliated sites:   GameGrep - Football Manager Wiki - Halo Wiki - MGS Wiki - GTA Wiki - Smackdown Wiki - Zelda Wiki - PS2seeker - Xbox seeker - GC seeker - DEVPEN - GFXcess