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ZombieVito forum junky total posts: 79 since: Dec 2012	Dec 19, 12 at 5:49pm ^ DBZ Power Level List
	Log in to remove this sponsored message Hi there, been lurking the forum for some time now and decided today to sign up and show my PL list I been making for some years now. I'm all for comments (I'm actually hoping for some he he) but keep in mind I only take the true canon (Manga) as fact. No Anime or Movies (Well next year that would change) ********************************* Multipliers Frieza/Android saga SSJ: X 50 Times Base Cell/Cell games saga SSJ: X 20 Times Base Post RoSaT USSJ: X 2 SSJ Buffed USSJ: X 2 USSJ MSSJ: X 5 Base Buffed Cell: X 1.5 PC Super Buffed Cell: X 2 SPC SSJ2: X 6 Times MSSJ Boo saga SSJ: X 20 Times Base MSSJ: X 5 Times Base SSJ2: X 6 Times SSJ SSJ3: X 7 Times SSJ2 Exception Fusions Dance: SSJ: 3.5X base SSJ2: 3X SSJ SSJ3: 2.5X SSj2 Portara: SSJ: 5x base ******************************* Raditz Arrival Raditz ~ Initial: 1,200 ~ Damaged: 550 Farmer: 5 Piccolo ~ With Weights: 322 ~ Without Weights: 408 ~ Light of Death: 1,330 ~ Second Light of Death: 1,440 Son Goku ~ With Weights: 334 ~ Without Weights: 416 ~ Kamehameha: 924 Son Gohan ~ Initial: 1 ~ Scared: 710 ~ Enraged: 1,307 One Year for the Ultimate Battle Piccolo ~ With Weights: 329 Master Roshi: 139 Kuririn: 206 Tenshinhan: 250 Yamcha: 177 Chaozu: 145 Yajirobe: 125 Korin: 190 Kami: 290 Mr.Popo: 275 King Yemma: 2,000 Kaiosama: 3,500 The Most Powerful Saiyans Arrive Piccolo ~ Suppressed: 1,220 ~ Full Power: 2,500 Son Gohan ~ Initial: 981 ~ Mad: 2,000 ~ Masenko: 2,800 Kuririn ~ Suppressed: 1,083 ~ Full Power: 1,500 ~ Big Energy Blast: 1,900 Chaozu ~ Initial: 1,050 ~ Suicidal Explosion: 2,100 Tenshinhan ~ Initial: 1,800 ~ Injured: 250 ~ Kikoho: 2,500 Yamcha ~ Initial: 1,250 ~ Kamehameha: 1,400 Saibamen: 1,200 Nappa: 4,200 Son Goku to Save the Day Nappa ~ Initial: 4,200 ~ Full Power: 7,900 Son Goku ~ Suppressed: 5,000 ~ Full Power: 8,250 ~ Kaio-ken: 16,500 ~ Kaio-ken x3: 24,750 ~ Kaio-ken x3 Kamehameha: 33,500 ~ Kaio-ken x4 Kamehameha: 41,750 ~ Injured, Post Kaio-ken X4: 2,500 ~ Genkidama: 120,000 Vegeta ~ Suppressed: 16,600 ~ Full Power: 18,000 ~ Gallick Gun: 33,500 ~ Post Kamehameha: 14,000 ~ Post Artificial Moon: 9,000 ~ Great Ape: 90,000 ~ Post Great Ape: 8,000 ~ Post Genkidama: 1,800 Son Gohan ~ Post Zenkai: 1,200 ~ Post Zenkai Enraged: 7,000 ~ Injured: 280 ~ Great Ape: 2,800 Kuririn ~ Initial: 1,500 ~ Remaining Genkidama: 15,000 ~ Injured: 300 Yajirobe: 900 Planet Namek Son Gohan ~ Post Zenkai: 1,500 Kuririn: 1,500 Freeza’s Soldiers: 500 Cui: 18,000 Moori: 1,400 Old Namekian: 1,500 Freeza’s Elite Soldiers: 1,200-2,400 Namekian Fighters ~ Suppressed: 1,000 ~ Full Power: 3,000 Dodoria: 21,000 Zarbon ~ Initial: 22,000 ~ Transformed: 27,500 Appule: 2,000 Vegeta ~ Post Zenkai: 24,000 ~ Post Second Zenkai: 30,000 The Ginyu Force Guldo: 5,000 Recoome: 45,000 Burter: 45,000 Jeise: 45,000 Kuririn ~ Initial: 1,500 ~ Potencial Unlock Increase: 11,000 ~ Continued Potencial Unlock Increase: 23,000 Son Gohan ~ Initial: 1,500 ~ Potencial Unlock Increase: 12,000 ~ Post Zenkai: 15,000 ~ Post Zenkai Continued Potencial Unlock Increase: 28,000 Vegeta ~ Initial: 30,000 ~ Final Flash: 40,000 ~ Post Zenkai: 75,000 ~ Post Zenkai Power Up: 250,000 Son Goku ~ Suppressed: 5,000 ~ Battle with Jeise and Burter: 60,000 ~ Full Power: 90,000 ~ Kaio-ken: 180,000 ~ In Ginyu’s body: 1,000 Ginyu: ~ Suppressed: 87,500 ~ Full Power: 120,000 ~ In Son Goku’s Body: 23,000 Freeza ~ 3rd Suppression: 265,000 Nail ~ Initial: 20,000 ~ Full Power: 42,000 ~ Post Regeneration: 35,000 Freezas Wrath Kuririn ~ Continued Potencial Unlock Increase: 150,000 Son Gohan ~ Continued Potencial Unlock Increase: 200,000 ~ Enraged: 1,000,000 ~ Post Zenkai: 300,000 ~ Post Zenkai Enraged: 1,500,000 ~ Post Zenkai Enraged Masenko: 1,800,000 Piccolo ~ Post Trainning With Kaiosama With Weights: 175,000 ~ Without Weights: 200,000 ~ Fused with Nail With Weights: 1,250,000 ~ Without Weights: 1,500,000 Vegeta ~ Initial: 250,000 ~ Full Power: 500,000 ~ Zenkai: 2,500,000 ~ Post Zenkai All out Energy Blast: 2,900,000 Freeza ~ 3rd Suppression: 265,000 ~ Full Power: 530,000 ~ 2nd Suppression: 1,060,000 ~ Power up: 1,200,000 ~ Full Power: 1,400,000 ~ 1st Suppression: 1,900,000 ~ True Form Initial: 2,400,000 ~ True Form Power Up: 3,200,000 The Legendary Super Saiyan Bardock: 1,080 Kuririn ~ Initial: 150,000 ~ Energy Given: 25,000 Son Gohan ~ Initial: 300,000 ~ Energy Given: 25,000 Piccolo ~ Without Weights: 1,400,000 ~ Son Gohan and Kuririn's Energy Given: 1,900,000 Freeza ~ True Form: 3,200,000 ~ No Hands: 6,400,000 ~ 50% of Full Power: 70,000,000 ~ 70% of Full Power: 98,000,000 ~ Full Power: 140,000,000 ~ Weakened and Fatiged: 120,000,000 Son Goku ~ Kenzai: 3,000,000 ~ Kaio-ken: 6,000,000 ~ Kaio-ken x10: 30,000,000 ~ Kaio-ken x20: 60,000,000 ~ Kaio-ken x20, Kamehameha: 70,000,000 ~ Genkidama: 90,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 150,000,000 The Mysterious Stranger Chaozu: 40,000 Yamcha: 120,000 Kuririn: 250,000 Tenshinhan: 300,000 Son Gohan: 600,000 Piccolo ~ With Weights: 2,000,000 ~ Without Weights: 2,500,000 Vegeta: 3,000,000 Freeza ~ Mecha Suppressed: 80,000,000 ~ Full Power Not Shown: 160,000,000 King Cold: 85,000,000 Trunks ~ Suppressed: 5 ~ Base: 3,500,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 175,000,000 Son Goku ~ Base: 4,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 200,000,000 3 Years Later Yajirobe: 780 Yamcha: 400,000 Kuririn: 900,000 Tenshinhan: 1,100,000 Son Gohan: 3,500,000 Son Goku ~ Base: 6,500,000 ~ Super Saiyan Healthy: 325,000,000 ~ Heart Problems: 240,000,000 ~ Heart problems Post Kamehameha: 90,000,000 ~ In Base and Heart Problems: 2,100,000 ~ Near Death and Energy Absorbed: 100,000 #19 ~ Initial: 100,000,000 ~ Kamehameha Absorbed: 150,000,000 ~ Goku’s Energy Absorbed: 152,000,000 ~ Vegeta’s Energy Absorbed but Crippled: 292,000,000 Vegeta ~ Base: 6,800,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 340,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan Energy Absorbed: 200,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan Big Bang Attack: 400,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan Post Big Bang Attack: 100,000,000 #20 ~ Initial: 120,000,000 ~ Yamcha Energy Absorbed: 120,400,000 ~ Vegeta Energy Blast Absorbed: 150,400,000 ~ Suppressed Piccolo Energy Absorbed: 154,900,000 Piccolo ~ With Weights and Suppressed: 5,000,000 ~ With Weights: 140,000,000 ~ Without Weights: 190,000,000 Trunks ~ Base: 6,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 300,000,000 #18: 480,000,000 #17: 500,000,000 Cell The Ultimate Android Piccolo ~ Fused with kami With Weights: 450,000,000 ~ Energy Absorbed: 440,000,000 ~ Without Weights: 500,000,000 ~ Weakened: 400,000,000 ~ Hellzone Grenade: 600,000,000 #17: 500,000,000 Cell ~ Initial: 365,000,000 ~ Kamehameha: 450,000,000 ~ Piccolo Energy Absorbed: 375,000,000 ~ Post Humans Energy Absorbed: 800,000,000 ~ 2nd Form: 1,600,000,000 #16 ~ Initial: 800,000,000 ~ Hell Flash: 900,000,000 ~ Damaged: 400,000,000 Tenshinhan ~ Initial: 1,100,000 ~ Ultimate Kikoho: 1,100,000,000 Perfection Acquired Vegeta ~ Post RoSaT Trainning Base: 33,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 1,650,000,000 ~ Ascended Super Saiyan: 3,300,000,000 ~ Ascended Super Saiyan Final Flash: 7,000,000,000 Trunks ~ Post RoSaT Trainning Base: 32,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 1,600,000,000 ~ Ascended Super Saiyan: 3,200,000,000 ~ Ascended Super Saiyan Buffed: 6,400,000,000 Cell ~ 2nd form: 1,600,000,000 ~ Full Power: 2,200,000,000 ~ 3rd Form Suppressed: 2,700,000,000 ~ Power up: 5,600,000,000 ~ Buffed: 8,400,000,000 Son Gohan ~ During RoSaT Trainning: 15,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 750,000,000 ~ Surppressed Mastered Super Saiyan: 2,000,000,000 Son Goku ~ During RoSaT Trainning: 18,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 900,000,000 ~ Ascended Super Saiyan: 1,800,000,000 ~ Ascended Super Saiyan buffed: 3,600,000,000 ~ Surppressed Mastered Super Saiyan: 2,500,000,000 ~ 50% of Full Power: 5,500,000,000 Piccolo ~ Post RoSaT Trainning With Weights: 2,900,000,000 History of Trunks #17 ~ Less Than 50%: 150,000,000 ~ Full Power: 380,000,000 #18 ~ Less Than 50%: 130,000,000 ~ Full Power: 360,000,000 Son Gohan ~ One year Ago Base: 2,300,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 115,000,000 ~ One Year later Base: 3,200,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 160,000,000 Trunks ~ Base: 44,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 2,200,000 ~ 3 Years Later Base: 3,300,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 165,000,000 ~ Post Zenkai Base: 3,500,000 Cell Games Mister Satan: 25 Son Goku ~ Base: 2,200,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan 50% of Full Power: 5,500,000,000 ~ Full Power: 11,000,000,000 ~ Super Kamehameha: 22,000,000,000 ~ Weakened After Battle With Cell: 2,750,000,000 Son Gohan ~ Base: 2,800,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan Full Power: 14,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2: 84,000,000,000 ~ Injured: 42,000,000,000 ~ Super Kamehameha: 126,000,000,000 ~ Raged Super Kamehameha: 168,000,000,000 Cell ~ Initial: 5,600,000,000 ~ Power up: 12,500,000,000 ~ Weakened After Battle With Son Goku: 8,000,000,000 ~ Post Senzu Bean and Power Up: 16,000,000,000 ~ Full Power: 32,000,000,000 ~ Full Power Buffed: 64,000,000,000 ~ Zenkai: 75,000,000,000 ~ Super Kamehameha: 150,000,000,000 Vegeta ~ Base: 325,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 6,500,000,000 Trunks ~ Base: 310,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 6,200,000,000 Piccolo ~ With Weights: 2,900,000,000 ~ Without Weights: 3,400,000,000 Tenshinhan: 1,100,000 Kuririn: 900,000 Yamcha: 400,000 Cell juniors: 7,000,000,000 Saving the Future #17: 380,000,000 #18: 360,000,000 Trunks ~ Base: 310,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 6,200,000,000 ~ Base 3 Years Later: 400,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 8,000,000,000 Cell ~ Initial: 400,000,000 ~ Full Power: 550,000,000 7 Years Later Son Gohan ~ Base: 2,200,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan: 11,000,000,000 Videl: 28 Kuririn: 695,000 Piccolo ~ With Weights: 3,450,000,000 ~ Without Weights: 3,950,000,000 Son Goten ~ Base: 130,000,000 ~ Suppressed Super Saiyan: 1,300,000,000 Trunks ~ Base: 140,000,000 ~ Surppressed Super Saiyan: 1,400,000,000 Vegeta ~ Base: 2,500,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan: 12,500,000,000 Son Goku ~ Base: 2,900,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan: 14,500,000,000 The 25th Tenkaichi Budokai Yamcha: 300,000 Son Goten ~ Base: 140,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 1,400,000,000 Trunks ~ Base: 150,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000 Mr.Satan: 22 Punta: 12 Kuririn: 700,000 Piccolo ~ With Weights: 3,500,000,000 ~ Without Weights: 4,000,000,000 East KaioShin: 3,000,000,000 Videl: 30 Spopovitch: 100 Yamu: 85 Yajirobe: 600 Son Gohan ~ Base: 2,300,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan: 11,500,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2: 69,000,000,000 Kibito: 1,500,000,000 The Warlock Babidi Vegeta ~ Base: 2,600,000,000 ~ Majin Mastered Super Saiyan: 15,000,000,000 ~ Majin Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000 Son Goku ~ Base: 3,000,000,000 ~ Suppressed Mastered Super Saiyan: 7,500,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan: 15,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2 Burst: 82,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000 Gohan ~ Base: 2,300,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 11,500,000,000 Pui Pui: 600,000,000 Yakon: 2,000,000,000 Dabura: 12,000,000,000 Mr.Satan: 22 Jewel: 8 Killer: 9 #18 ~ Suppressed: 180,000,000 ~ Full Power: 505,000,000 Trunks ~ Suppressed Super Saiyan Ki Blast: 1,000,000,000 The Invincible Monster Buu Gohan ~ Super Saiyan: 11,500,000,000 ~ Super Kamehameha: 22,000,000,000 ~ Post Zenkai Base: 2,500,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 12,500,000,000 Vegeta ~ Majin Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000 ~ Suicidal Explosion: 180,000,000,000 Son Goku ~ Base: 3,000,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan: 15,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000 ~ Surppressed Super Saiyan 3: 315,000,000,000 Fat Buu ~ Initial: 15,000,000,000 ~ Power up: 75,000,000,000 ~ Second Power Up: 120,000,000,000 ~ Third Power Up Against Goku: 260,000,000,000 Goten ~ Base: 140,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan Full Power: 2,800,000,000 Trunks ~ Base: 150,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan Full Power: 3,000,000,000 Chaozu: 90,000 Tenshinhan: 1,700,000 The Fusion Dance Son Goten ~ Post RoSaT Base: 190,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan Full Power: 3,800,000,000 Trunks ~ Post RoSaT Base: 200,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan Full Power: 4,000,000,000 Fat Gotenks: 1,000,000 Anorexic Gotenks: 5,000 Gotenks ~ Base: 100,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 350,000,000,000 ~ Post RoSaT Base: 400,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 1,400,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2 Not Shown: 4,200,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 3: 10,500,000,000,000 Fat Buu ~ Initial: 260,000,000,000 ~ Angry to the Point of Slipting: 800,000,000,000 Evil Buu: 600,000,000,000 Good Buu: 200,000,000,000 Super Buu: 9,000,000,000,000 Son Gohan ~ Post Z Sword Trainning Base: 9,500,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 47,500,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2: 285,000,000,000 Elder KaioShin: 500,000 The Ultimate Warrior Gohan ~ Maxium Potential Unlocked: 14,000,000,000,000 Super Buu ~ Initial: 9,000,000,000,000 ~ Gotenks absorbed: 19,500,000,000,000 ~ Piccolo absorbed: 9,003,500,000,000 ~ Gohan absorbed: 23,000,000,000,000 ~ Buffed: 12,000,000,000,000 Kibito Kai: 60,000,000,000 Tenshinhan ~ Initial: 1,700,000 ~ Ultimate Kikoho: 1,700,000,000 Vegetto ~ Base: 16,800,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan: 84,000,000,000,000 Kid Buu: 600,000,000,000 Buu's Defeat South KaioShin: 6,500,000,000 Grand Supreme KaioShin: 8,000,000,000 Son Goku ~ Base: 3,000,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan: 15,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 3: 630,000,000,000 ~ Earth Genkidama: 32,500,000,000,000 Vegeta ~ Base: 2,600,000,000 ~ Mastered Super Saiyan: 13,000,000,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2: 78,000,000,000 Good Buu ~ Initial: 150,000,000,000 ~ Weakened to the Point of Death: 100,000,000 Kid Buu: 600,000,000,000 The God of Destruction Bills coming soon Ten Years later** Trunks ~ Base: 400,000,000 Son Goten ~ Base: 390,000,000 Son Gohan ~ Base: 12,000,000,000,000 Vegeta ~ Base: 7,000,000,000 Chaozu: 140,000 Yamcha: 180,000 Kuririn: 450,000 Tenshinhan: 2,500,000 Piccolo ~ With Weights: 4,500,000,000 ~ Without Weights: 5,000,000,000 Good Buu: 200,000,000,000 Mister Satan: 18 Videl: 27 Kirano: 50 Pan: 1,500,000 Mokekko: 15 Ubb ~ Initial: 10 ~ Enraged:7,800,000,000 Son Goku ~ Base: 8,000,000,000 Edit: Dec 24, 12 7:39pm
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SSJ2GREATSAIYAMAN Love and peace dangerous total posts: 172 since: Nov 2012	Dec 19, 12 at 6:37pm ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	Their fair enough although i spoted two mistakes Base vegito>ultimate gohan and Ssj2 majin vegeta=<Ssj2 vegeta because vegeta never cared about goku's Ssj2 after seeing his Ssj3 if he was weaker than goku he could have not even tried to fight kid buu=fat buu or even stronger maybe since he knew his majin self lost.
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ZombieVito forum junky total posts: 79 since: Dec 2012	Dec 19, 12 at 6:45pm ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	I always assumed the Majin power up worked as long as the fighter was under Babidi's control and since Vegeta after dying wasn't (He lost the M and considered a good guy by Porunga) I figured he lost it, I'm curious to see others opinions about this. I'm also curious as to why Base Vegito > Ultimate Gohan, I don't remember being stated.
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SSJ2GREATSAIYAMAN Love and peace dangerous total posts: 172 since: Nov 2012	Dec 20, 12 at 3:42am ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	Base vegito=>Buuhan>Buutenks>Ultimate gohan. We don't have to bring Super vegito because he is far far stronger than any of them.
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ZombieVito forum junky total posts: 79 since: Dec 2012	Dec 20, 12 at 8:38am ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	Elder Kaioshin said that Gokua souldn't need SSJ against Buutenks so vegito>>gohan was never implied and Vegito>=Buuhan? Where is it stated? I can't find anything on the manga that suggest base Vegito>> Buuhan. Are you taking that from the anime?
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SSJ2GREATSAIYAMAN Love and peace dangerous total posts: 172 since: Nov 2012	Dec 20, 12 at 10:39am ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	There was no base vegito in the manga so yeah am talking about the anime. Also Ssj2 kid gohan>Ssj2 pre-majin vegeta since vegeta said that Ssj2 goku was the first to surpass kid gohan even majin vegeta surpassed gohan.Piccolo was not sure about majin vegeta's power compared to gohans but we know that Ssj2 goku=majin vegeta>Ssj2 kid gohan>Spc>Ssj2 pre-majin vegeta>Ssj2 teen gohan>FP perfect cell.
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13273 since: Aug 2010	Dec 20, 12 at 11:01am ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	Potara Gokan was stated to be strong enough to kill Gotenks-absorbed Boo without having to transform into a Super Saiyan. Later on, when Vegetto is formed, he is stated as being whats strongest...Base Vegetto> Base Gokan>>Gotenks-Boo>> Ultinate Gohan.
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Azariah Ordo Ab Chao! no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 222 since: Jun 2012	Dec 20, 12 at 11:42am ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	The PL list is okay, but I'ld have Goten and Trunks near their fathers PLs at End of Z. quote XxSkelterXx Potara Gokan was stated to be strong enough to kill Gotenks-absorbed Boo without having to transform into a Super Saiyan. Later on, when Vegetto is formed, he is stated as being whats strongest...Base Vegetto> Base Gokan>>Gotenks-Boo>> Ultinate Gohan. Where is it implied that Elder Kai was comparing the two fusions between Gokhan and Vegitto?
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13273 since: Aug 2010	Dec 20, 12 at 1:48pm ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	What else would he be comparing?? Vegetto and a slice of pizza? Hell, there was no comparison made. Elder Kaioshin flat-out said that Vegetto is whats strongest. That means he is whats strongest.. there is nobody stronger..than him..
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ZombieVito forum junky total posts: 79 since: Dec 2012	Dec 20, 12 at 2:33pm ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	Azariah: But how is that possible if they were stated to slacked off? I actually think I was generous. Skelter: You are correct, Elder Kaioshin did say Vegeto was the strongest....When he was SSJ. SSJ2GREATSAIYAMAN: No anime and you do make a good point about Vegeta, I'll read that part again.
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13273 since: Aug 2010	Dec 20, 12 at 4:29pm ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	No. Ekder Kai never once said that Vegetto was the strongest when was a Super Saiyan. He said Vegetto is whats strongest, period. End off. There is no way around the fact that Vegetto was stated as being the strongest fusion...why people ignore this is beyond me.
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ZombieVito forum junky total posts: 79 since: Dec 2012	Dec 20, 12 at 5:34pm ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	Care to give the exact quote? Hes never seen speaking until after he transforms into SSJ and beating Buuhan.
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Azariah Ordo Ab Chao! no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 222 since: Jun 2012	Dec 20, 12 at 10:29pm ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	XxSkelterXx Kibito was praising the Potara, and the Elder Kai corrects him telling it was the fusees(if such a word exists) that made the fusion as strong as it was and not the Potara. ZombieVito its very possible to get the view that Trunks and Goten continued training after Buu was defeated, especially Trunks who was already training in "Peace times" and Vegeta wanted him to surpass Gohan (Cell games). Not to mention at the End of Z Vegeta says their Kids "act" weak. If they act weak what are they?
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ZombieVito forum junky total posts: 79 since: Dec 2012	Dec 20, 12 at 10:39pm ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	I just don't see them getting that strong. Both Goku and Vegeta complained that their boys were slacking off. That is a confirmed statement they weren't training at full like Goku and Vegeta.
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Azariah Ordo Ab Chao! no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 222 since: Jun 2012	Dec 21, 12 at 1:16am ^ re: DBZ Power Level List
	Yeah but only Goten, was confirmed to be slacking but Trunks i'm not so sure. IIRC this' how the main things happened. Vegeta visits Goku in the woods, he finds him training with Goten. Goku tells Vegeta him and Goten are entering the Budokai and his reasons why. Trunks arrives, Vegeta tells him he'll also be going to the Budokai, trunks is surprised, then vegeta makes the "act weak" comment. At the Budokai, Goten is drawn to face Mr. Buu, he's shocked as to why he gets to face Buu in the first round. And Goku tells him Buu will only be a problem because he keeps slacking. So if Goten hadn't been slacking Buu wouldn't have been a problem. To me that tells me Goten was Mr. Buu level in whatever form they agreed to use at the tournament.
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