SSJ Goten vs Semi Perfect Cell - Page 5

quote Tom_Woods123

Hi, south Kai DH


Goten at the budokai would one shot cell. He was shown fighting evenly with MSSJ Gohan.

He needed SSJ,along with Trunks,to beat 18.He was shown sparring with MSSJ Gohan.

quote XxSkelterXx

Even going Super Saiyan, they felt that he Costume hindered them.. If they are that superior, do you think the suit would be handicap?? Put it this way, would Goku and Vegeta in the same suit have the same problems against Semi-Cell??

It hindered their movement(Like USSJ) and 18 can't be sensed.Vegeta and Goku probably wouldn't,since they are massively stronger than Semi-Cell.

It's not about power,it's about speed.They had a lot less speed in it.She could have been holding back,but just at the beginning.

quote XxSkelterXx

How does a suit made of cloth, that weights less than 3 pounds, hinder the movements of a couple of Super Saiyans that can move faster than a bullet while inside a chamber that has 100x gravity? Hell, these kinds are stronger than Freeza, and freeza lifted a whole mountain using nothing but his mind...

Please explain.

It's the same logic,how Base Trunks(who could be nearing 100% Frieza according to the 2008 OVA) has huge trouble with walking at 150x gravity,yet Namek Saga Goku mastered 100x gravity.It's a plothole.
I don't know,but if the SSJ kids aren't that much above 18,then Pre-HTC SSJ Gotenks being capable of defeating Fat Buu is out of window,yet Goku states it.Maybe the kids weren't confident,since they can't sense 18's ki?Also,I don't think sparring MSSJ Adult Gohan would suppress himself to Imperfect Cell's level.

quote XxSkelterXx

All we have on Gotenks is that Goku predicts he will be enough to kill fat Boo..That's it. There is no feats backing up his statements, and his power is a mystery. All we know is that Goku himself says Gotenks is a nasty gamble......

Gohan has enough power to one-shot Goten..To say he is not suppressed is ridiculous.

I personally believe Full Power SSJ3 Goku>Pre-HTC SSJ Gotenks>>SSJ3 Goku suppressed vs. Fat Buu,due to this:Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
But yes,it is a mystery.Then again,Pre-HTC SSJ Gotenks never fought Fat Buu.Perhaps he would have defeated Fat Buu,which would have ended the Buu saga.

quote G_O_G_E_T_A

I actually have the Super Saiyan kids, even before their ROSAT trainings, already well above Buu arc Piccolo.

If they were that strong,they would have easily defeated 18 in Base.

Yes, Piccolo should be stronger,and I agree that he is.. I've yet to see one single statement, feat, or implications that they boys are stronger than Piccolo. Even at Super Saiyan, they should be weaker than him. Anybody got a quote or something putting the kids stronger than Piccolo???