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Cocoman s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1614 since: Jul 2011	Mar 23, 12 at 3:51am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	Log in to remove this sponsored message I'll just repeat what I said earlier; quote Cocoman I have to say, you haven't debunked anything. The fact remains that it was set up as a re-match between Goku and Pure Boo from the word 'go'. No matter how you cut it, Goku thought he would need to get 'better' to beat Pure Boo (Oob) and then he says Oob was as "amazin'" as he expected. It's flawless logic really. + I agree with Cooler quote XxSkelterXx I'm not high, I did cut my finger today. Lost tons of blood...lol That explains it
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13266 since: Aug 2010	Mar 23, 12 at 7:02am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	quote Cooler I just did, but you ignore it. We know Oob ~ Kid Boo because Goku states it, he fights him in base and has a really hard fight just like he said he would. The conclusions is that Goku had planned to fight in base all a long. It's like learning your ABC's man. No Goku never "states" it. All he says is that he is who he thought he was. This whole Goku planed to only fight in base is made up, and nothing in the manga even implies that. He fought in base because anything else would be overkill. quote Cooler Yep, and he got the hard fight he was expecting seeing as Oob was amazing as expected. The fact this happened in base supports Goku not planning to use SSJ. Post a quote where Goku says he wont transform.. What about Vegeta? Vegeta doesn't care about people knowing his identity. Whats amazing about a guy they can one-shot? quote Cooler All your points are just dodging. Extreme circumstances forced them to transform before, if they didn't want the attention 7 years ago why would they want it now? I'm using the manga derp, the thing I'm referencing, the 25th Budokai, it's in there if you look real hard... I have looked real hard, I am the one posting quotes. You are the one posting what you think Goku meant. I would say my side has the manga backing me up, while your side has the: Well, Goku must have meant this, and they did that 7 years ago..That's one hell of an argument. quote Cooler Being at 100% =/= Using SSJ3 Keep failing. Being at 100% means being 100%, not what Cooler thinks it means. Do you not know what about 100% means?? really? quote Cooler Contradicting yourself again. You say Goku wanted to be at 100% (SSJ3) to fight Oob, surely then he was expecting someone SSJ3 tier? As he was expecting a hard fight. Oob met his expectations, so he must be SSJ3 tier by your logic. But you can't make that work with your 'Goku meant SSJ3 herp derp he barely improved herp derp' because they fought in base. Your argument is that Goku was expecting to use 100% of his power because he thought Oob ~ Kid Boo and he (Goku) has barely improved in 10 years. Well seeing as Oob was what he expected and he didn't need SSJ3 him saying 100% couldn't have meant SSJ3... Your argument falls apart at every point. Wrong. You have no evidence that Goku's base is Ssj3 Tier. All we have is Goku expecting to fight a ssj3 Tier opponent, but all he got was a kid he could handle with ease...The kid does have the potential, but it will take years for him to reach it....Give me facts, not what you think Goku meant..
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Cooler Still Seekin' total posts: 3803 since: Dec 2009	Mar 23, 12 at 9:03am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	I'm just going to go ahead and post this again; quote Contradicting yourself again. You say Goku wanted to be at 100% (SSJ3) to fight Oob, surely then he was expecting someone SSJ3 tier? As he was expecting a hard fight. Oob met his expectations, so he must be SSJ3 tier by your logic. But you can't make that work with your 'Goku meant SSJ3 herp derp he barely improved herp derp' because they fought in base. Your argument is that Goku was expecting to use 100% of his power because he thought Oob ~ Kid Boo and he (Goku) has barely improved in 10 years. Well seeing as Oob was what he expected and he didn't need SSJ3 him saying 100% couldn't have meant SSJ3... Your argument falls apart at every point. Seeing as you wanted a quote, I'll post it for ya even though it's in this very thread. quote Hermes Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5 Context: Oob is surprised by Goku’s Bukujutsu Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you Oob is amazing as Goku expected. So what did Goku expect? Let's see what you yourself have said. quote XxSkelterXx Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5 Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.” Satan: “Hahhahhah, now really! There’s no way that could happen, right Goku thinks that Oob is as strong as Kid Boo, and he is not sure he can win. This here implies that Goku is not that much stronger than he was when he fought Boo 10 years ago. If he was a lot stronger, and he was going up against a guy as strong as Kid Boo, he wouldn't have doubts about him winning. So according to yourself Goku was expecting someone as strong as Kid Boo. Seeing as Oob is as amazing as expected by your logic he must be SSJ3 tier. So like I said how can Goku think he needs SSJ3 when he got exactly what he expected and fought the guy in base?
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13266 since: Aug 2010	Mar 23, 12 at 9:25am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	quote Cooler quote Hermes Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5 Context: Oob is surprised by Goku’s Bukujutsu Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you Oob is amazing as Goku expected. So what did Goku expect? Let's see what you yourself have said. I am not denying, or saying that Oob is not Kid Boo. That's all the quote says. Hey, I though you were Kid Boo, and I was right!! Yay. Nothing says Kid Boo can use his power. Yes, you are as amazing as I though, but you don't know how to use your power. Guess what, I am going to take God knows how many years, and teach you how to use that amazing power!! That's all that quote says. Nothing says he boy, you are at Ssj3 Power, and i can match it at base!! har har.. quote Cooler quote XxSkelterXx Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5 Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.” Satan: “Hahhahhah, now really! There’s no way that could happen, right Goku thinks that Oob is as strong as Kid Boo, and he is not sure he can win. This here implies that Goku is not that much stronger than he was when he fought Boo 10 years ago. If he was a lot stronger, and he was going up against a guy as strong as Kid Boo, he wouldn't have doubts about him winning. So according to yourself Goku was expecting someone as strong as Kid Boo. Seeing as Oob is as amazing as expected by your logic he must be SSJ3 tier. So like I said how can Goku think he needs SSJ3 when he got exactly what he expected and fought the guy in bas Ok so how can Goku not be sure if he can win the Budokai when he and Vegeta can sneeze at Oob, and send his ass to King Yemas?? Goku thinks Oob has the same power Boo did 10 years ago. Goku thinks he might not be able to win, Goku fights and only uses his base form, matching blow for blow with the kid. Goku has the power to one-shot him but chooses not to use it. Goku decides to stop the fight, and train Oob so one day they can have the fight he was expecting. All you managed to prove was that Oob was Kid Boo, and he was right. That's it. Everything else points a kid with a shitload of power that he can't use... Cooler Where is the quote that Goku planned on not using ssj?? Im still waiting.
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SIAD unwashed heathen (guest) IP: Logged	Mar 23, 12 at 9:58am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	Oob rage = Goku = Kid Boo
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13266 since: Aug 2010	Mar 23, 12 at 10:08am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	quote SIAD Oob rage = Goku = Kid Boo What the hell is this? Is this even a post? You post your little power chain with no explication, and I amsupposed to take it at face value and say Yes sir!!?? I hate useless posts like this.
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SIAD unwashed heathen (guest) IP: Logged	Mar 23, 12 at 10:25am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	I mean, Goku dbz = basis so enraged Oob = Kid Buu.
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Goku9001 true seeker total posts: 1224 since: Dec 2011	Mar 23, 12 at 11:14am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	Wow, the fact that Goku expects Oob to be the protector of Earth and expects him to be a good match up for him in a few years should mean his potential is far greater than a power ~ Pure Boo. I seriously don't understand how it's hard to comprehend that Enraged Burst ~ Pure Boo. Base Goku should be Kid Boo tier considering the fact that he only received minor injuries by Oob's Enraged Burst.
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Cooler Still Seekin' total posts: 3803 since: Dec 2009	Mar 23, 12 at 11:26am ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	Still not dealt with the fact that according to you Goku is expecting Oob to require SSJ3 to deal with, then fights him in base claiming Oob is as amazing as expected. How could Goku have been expecting to need SSJ3 when we later learn he only expected someone slightly above his base level? As for the quote, the two statements: 'You are exactly the person I thought you were' and 'As amazing as I expected' are talking about two different things. Unless you think Goku was just repeating the same statement again a second later. Goku is saying 'You are Kid Boo' and 'amazing' could only mean strength.
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13266 since: Aug 2010	Mar 23, 12 at 12:32pm ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	Amazing doesn't translate to stronger than Kid Boo. A human fighting on par with a saiyan is an amazing feat indeed. You still haven't dealt with Goku thinking he couldn't win against a guy he was even with 10 years ago...
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Cooler Still Seekin' total posts: 3803 since: Dec 2009	Mar 23, 12 at 1:47pm ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	quote XxSkelterXx Amazing doesn't translate to stronger than Kid Boo. A human fighting on par with a saiyan is an amazing feat indeed. You still haven't dealt with Goku thinking he couldn't win against a guy he was even with 10 years ago... It's a good thing I'm not saying Oob is stronger than Kid Boo. You yourself have stated Goku was expecting someone on par with Kid Boo, so if Oob is as amazing as expected how could that mean anything other than Oob ~ Kid Boo? I've dealt with it, Goku obviously never intended to use SSJ3 seeing as Oob was what he expected and he did ok in base. And for the record Goku never said he'd lose, just that he might lose. All the statements fit nicely with Goku just fighting in base and planning to do so. He did afterall get the hard fight he expected.
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Goku9001 true seeker total posts: 1224 since: Dec 2011	Mar 23, 12 at 3:53pm ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	Ah, which also suggests Goku might not be that far below Pure Boo. I might have to get Goku from 80% of Pure Boo to 85% of him. But yeah, Cooler basically ended this argument. This really is getting ridiculous. AT made it very clear that Enraged Burst Oob ~ Pure Boo and even Base Goku only received minor injuries at most.
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13266 since: Aug 2010	Mar 23, 12 at 3:56pm ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	He sure did. Hence Oob is nowhere close Kid Boo.
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SSj3 Gotenks high on "N" total posts: 823 since: Nov 2011	Mar 23, 12 at 4:02pm ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	I don't see how Oob=Kid buu is an established fact. I want to debate, but i hate writing huge posts with many quotes.
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Goku9001 true seeker total posts: 1224 since: Dec 2011	Mar 23, 12 at 4:11pm ^ re: End of Z Goku.
	quote XxSkelterXx He sure did. Hence Oob is nowhere close Kid Boo. Of course, ignore that important statement that goes against your little PoV.
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