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nasty nappa living in a dream as usual true seeker total posts: 1029 since: Jan 2007	Jul 27, 12 at 5:01am ^ re: What If Thread
	Log in to remove this advertisement then goku would have crushed nappa but would have died against vegeta oozaru proberly ------------------- im giving birth to my own friends lol
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BrolySucks not-such-a-newbie total posts: 45 since: Aug 2012	Aug 07, 12 at 1:01pm ^ re: What If Thread
	SSJ4 Goku (EOZ) vs Mystic Gohan Who wins?
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PrinceVegeta Oh Great, The Fat One's Dead! no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 260 since: Aug 2012	Aug 07, 12 at 2:53pm ^ re: What If Thread
	quote BrolySucks SSJ4 Goku (EOZ) vs Mystic Gohan Who wins? SSJ4 Goku (EoZ). Goku in base was able to get through fighting Uub unscathed, and Uub's enraged burst was comparable to Buu, so base Goku would have to be at least comparable to his SSJ2 self from Buu Saga. MSSJ Goku could take this, let alone SSJ4.
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Kaboom s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1744 since: Mar 2011	Aug 07, 12 at 4:38pm ^ re: What If Thread
	I think Goku would be closing in on Gohan by the end of Z with just SSj3. But adding an extra and more reliable transformation on top of that would definitely let him win.
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G_O_G_E_T_A Vocare Ad Regnum (moderator) Dragonball total posts: 16154 since: May 2006	Aug 08, 12 at 4:02am ^ re: What If Thread
	Super Saiyan 3 may not cut it yet IMO, because I believe Gohan's advantage over Goku during the Buu arc was pretty massive. But Super Saiyan 4 should do the trick just fine, as long as it's EOZ Goku.
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BrolySucks not-such-a-newbie total posts: 45 since: Aug 2012	Aug 08, 12 at 4:40am ^ re: What If Thread
	quote G_O_G_E_T_A Super Saiyan 3 may not cut it yet IMO, because I believe Gohan's advantage over Goku during the Buu arc was pretty massive. But Super Saiyan 4 should do the trick just fine, as long as it's EOZ Goku. SSJ4 Goku in the Buu Arc would be around SSJ Gotenks (Post) IMO. SSJ4 Goku (EOZ) takes it rather easily IMO. I have Base Goku in the EOZ around his SSJ2 in the Buu Saga. Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre) >/~ SSJ3 Goku. That means SSJ3 Goku (EOZ) is weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks.
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PrinceVegeta Oh Great, The Fat One's Dead! no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 260 since: Aug 2012	Aug 08, 12 at 12:54pm ^ re: What If Thread
	quote BrolySucks quote G_O_G_E_T_A Super Saiyan 3 may not cut it yet IMO, because I believe Gohan's advantage over Goku during the Buu arc was pretty massive. But Super Saiyan 4 should do the trick just fine, as long as it's EOZ Goku. SSJ4 Goku in the Buu Arc would be around SSJ Gotenks (Post) IMO. SSJ4 Goku (EOZ) takes it rather easily IMO. I have Base Goku in the EOZ around his SSJ2 in the Buu Saga. Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre) >/~ SSJ3 Goku. That means SSJ3 Goku (EOZ) is weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks. I think is base is around there, too. SSJ Gotenks (Post) wouldn't be that far ahead of SSJ3 Goku, that's saying he's, what, 5x stronger? Maybe 10x. But yeah, EoZ Goku takes it easily. If I were to give numbers I'd say: Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku: 1.7 Ultimate Gohan: 16 Base Goku EoZ: 0.18 SSJ Goku EoZ: 27
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BrolySucks not-such-a-newbie total posts: 45 since: Aug 2012	Aug 08, 12 at 2:24pm ^ re: What If Thread
	quote PrinceVegeta quote BrolySucks quote G_O_G_E_T_A Super Saiyan 3 may not cut it yet IMO, because I believe Gohan's advantage over Goku during the Buu arc was pretty massive. But Super Saiyan 4 should do the trick just fine, as long as it's EOZ Goku. SSJ4 Goku in the Buu Arc would be around SSJ Gotenks (Post) IMO. SSJ4 Goku (EOZ) takes it rather easily IMO. I have Base Goku in the EOZ around his SSJ2 in the Buu Saga. Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre) >/~ SSJ3 Goku. That means SSJ3 Goku (EOZ) is weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks. I think is base is around there, too. SSJ Gotenks (Post) wouldn't be that far ahead of SSJ3 Goku, that's saying he's, what, 5x stronger? Maybe 10x. But yeah, EoZ Goku takes it easily. If I were to give numbers I'd say: Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku: 1.7 Ultimate Gohan: 16 Base Goku EoZ: 0.18 SSJ Goku EoZ: 27 Mystic Gohan >>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (EOZ).
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PrinceVegeta Oh Great, The Fat One's Dead! no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 260 since: Aug 2012	Aug 08, 12 at 2:34pm ^ re: What If Thread
	quote BrolySucks quote PrinceVegeta quote BrolySucks quote G_O_G_E_T_A Super Saiyan 3 may not cut it yet IMO, because I believe Gohan's advantage over Goku during the Buu arc was pretty massive. But Super Saiyan 4 should do the trick just fine, as long as it's EOZ Goku. SSJ4 Goku in the Buu Arc would be around SSJ Gotenks (Post) IMO. SSJ4 Goku (EOZ) takes it rather easily IMO. I have Base Goku in the EOZ around his SSJ2 in the Buu Saga. Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre) >/~ SSJ3 Goku. That means SSJ3 Goku (EOZ) is weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks. I think is base is around there, too. SSJ Gotenks (Post) wouldn't be that far ahead of SSJ3 Goku, that's saying he's, what, 5x stronger? Maybe 10x. But yeah, EoZ Goku takes it easily. If I were to give numbers I'd say: Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku: 1.7 Ultimate Gohan: 16 Base Goku EoZ: 0.18 SSJ Goku EoZ: 27 Mystic Gohan >>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Goku (EOZ). Well, we'll never truly know. The manga stays quiet on those last powers, for the most part.
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Crucious just getting started! total posts: 128 since: Feb 2011	Aug 09, 12 at 3:16am ^ re: What If Thread
	That's why we use our baser intelligence to deduct that Goku never caught up to Gohan at the end, unless it was in SS3. To say normal SS Goku is stronger is as laughable as trying to mix oil and water, it just doesn't work.
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BrolySucks not-such-a-newbie total posts: 45 since: Aug 2012	Aug 09, 12 at 7:25am ^ re: What If Thread
	Movie 3 SSJ Goku vs Piccolo Fused With Nail. Who wins?
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G_O_G_E_T_A Vocare Ad Regnum (moderator) Dragonball total posts: 16154 since: May 2006	Aug 09, 12 at 7:32am ^ re: What If Thread
	Most likely Goku as that "Giji" Super Saiyan form he used was intended to be the real Super Saiyan IIRC, in Toei's perception. Surely Slug was more powerful than the Piccolo/Nail merger, and Goku completely trashed him.
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BrolySucks not-such-a-newbie total posts: 45 since: Aug 2012	Aug 09, 12 at 7:44am ^ re: What If Thread
	quote G_O_G_E_T_A Most likely Goku as that "Giji" Super Saiyan form he used was intended to be the real Super Saiyan IIRC, in Toei's perception. Surely Slug was more powerful than the Piccolo/Nail merger, and Goku completely trashed him. No, I meant to what if Goku went SSJ when he fought Turles. Also, M4 Lord Slug probably rivals Piccolo Fused With Nail. Around Second Form Frieza.
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PrinceVegeta Oh Great, The Fat One's Dead! no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 260 since: Aug 2012	Aug 09, 12 at 1:13pm ^ re: What If Thread
	quote BrolySucks quote G_O_G_E_T_A Most likely Goku as that "Giji" Super Saiyan form he used was intended to be the real Super Saiyan IIRC, in Toei's perception. Surely Slug was more powerful than the Piccolo/Nail merger, and Goku completely trashed him. No, I meant to what if Goku went SSJ when he fought Turles. Also, M4 Lord Slug probably rivals Piccolo Fused With Nail. Around Second Form Frieza. Goku's PL is 30k against Turles (it could've been 20k, 30k w/ Kaio-ken...I don't recall). If you use the 50x multiplier, 30,000 * 50 = 1,500,000. Piccolo was over a million but most likely under 2 million, so it could go either way. Personally, I'd have to say Piccolo. I believe that Slug was stronger than Piccolo w/ Nail as well, but I think he'd get trashed by Final Form Frieza at 2%, maybe even 3rd Form Frieza. quote Crucious That's why we use our baser intelligence to deduct that Goku never caught up to Gohan at the end, unless it was in SS3. To say normal SS Goku is stronger is as laughable as trying to mix oil and water, it just doesn't work. I suppose you're right there. However, Goku being at least around his SSJ2 self from before seems evident, so I'm pretty sure SSJ3 EoZ Goku would get it done, possibly SSJ2 Goku. There's no indication Gohan got any stronger than before. Remember, SSJ2 is a 100x increase from base at least, most likely more, so Goku's base getting around there means he got ~100x stronger. Then you have him going SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3. I don't think the gap between Gohan and Buu Saga Goku was so huge that EoZ Goku would need SSJ3 to beat him.
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G_O_G_E_T_A Vocare Ad Regnum (moderator) Dragonball total posts: 16154 since: May 2006	Aug 10, 12 at 4:11am ^ re: What If Thread
	quote PrinceVegeta Goku's PL is 30k against Turles (it could've been 20k, 30k w/ Kaio-ken...I don't recall). If you use the 50x multiplier, 30,000 * 50 = 1,500,000. Piccolo was over a million but most likely under 2 million, so it could go either way. Personally, I'd have to say Piccolo. I believe that Slug was stronger than Piccolo w/ Nail as well, but I think he'd get trashed by Final Form Frieza at 2%, maybe even 3rd Form Frieza. Unless my memory has gotten foggy; didn't Kaio state at some point that Slug may be stronger than Frieza? Of course it remains to be seen which form of Frieza he was getting at, but something to that extent was said by Kaio, IIRC. Anyhow, I got the movies mixed up when I first replied to this topic, so I have to correct my stance on the matter. Goku's battle power was registered by Turles' scouter to be at 30k and still rising, so that would at least be 1,5 million. I estimate Piccolo around that same amount of power more or less, so both could win. I can't really pick a winner here.
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