General Broly Debate Thread - Page 23

Well, Gero, like every other villain could have just been cokcy. After all, this is the same Guy that thought 19 could be stronger than Vegeta after he went Ssj.

quote vegito1089

quote Brolyfanboy12

quote boldturkey

i believe movie 13 ssj3 goku > lssj broly

but IMO i believe lssj broly > movie 12 ssj3 goku.

also i reckon janemba and broly are the strongest non fused villains in dbz

I would place Super Buu above Broly as well. I don't know why you think LSSJ Broly~Janemba>m12 SSj3 Goku. Considering the latter villain is an entity formed from all the pent up evil in Hell which was able to warp the fabric of reality just be existing, ressurect the dead & break down the barriers between the normal DB universe & other world, transform an ogre club into a sword (which cut right through SSj3 Goku) just by looking at it. All of which suggests some degree of omnipotence. Using those feats & TOEI powerscaling he could easily be above skyfather tier. Broly's best feat is galaxy busting, which is beneath Super Buu & Janemba which have dimensional/reality warping feats. Broly is outstripped by those two in terms of power, & FAR outstripped in terms of abilities IMO.

goku stated that fat janemba had the strongest ki he had felt and fat janemba is obviously fat buu's level ssj3 goku>fat janemba>fat buu (that goku fought)>>>broly

Strongest ki he had ever felt is not specific enough. Goku held back against Fat Buu & Broly toyed throught M10 & was killed while still toying. Goku & Pikkon defeated Broly in M11 but it was never shown so Broly may have just been SSj rather than LSSj, which is possible due to his use of the form instead of LSS for the majority of M10. This could leave Goku with no specific idea of Broly's full power, so he may just be referring to a ball park figure when making comparisons. It could be like:

Super Gogeta (Full Power)>>>>>Super Gogeta (toying)>>>Super Janemba (Full Power)>>>>>Super Janemba (toying)>>>FPSSj3 Goku>>>Fat Janemba>>SSj Gotenks (Pre Rosat)=/>SSj3 Goku toying=/>LSSj Broly M10 (Full Power)>>>Fat Buu (Full Power)>>LSSj Broly M10 (toying)>Base Gotenks (Pre Rosat)>Fat Buu (toying) >>SSj2 Goku=SSj2 Majin Vegeta.

Non hax- broly is still ssj3 tier

hax- broly is easily close to ssj3 gotenks level in manga

quote XxSkelterXx

quote Super Vegetto

LSSJ under SSJ3 but above SSJ2. Btw Gohan says Tapion has incredible Ki while i say base Trunks > Tapion any day.

I agree that Lssj Broly beat the crap out of Ssj2 Gohan, Im not so sure if he would do as good against Majin Vegeta, Or ssj2 Goku..

^^^^ genius material right there.

quote tko_10xlegend

Non hax- broly is still ssj3 tier

Wow man, why don't you try backing that up??

lol i did. but what can you say. i forgot. a kick that moved broly half a meter back and a fight that never happen.

Nice, backing up your argument.

[quote=tko_10xlegend|message:32921936]hax- broly is easily close to ssj3 gotenks level in manga

This is not even worth debating, so dont bother trying to back this up, since you cant...


i actually did. but since you dont believe in toei hax. why bother

quote DragonEmperor

quote tko_10xlegend

quote XxSkelterXx

quote Super Vegetto

LSSJ under SSJ3 but above SSJ2. Btw Gohan says Tapion has incredible Ki while i say base Trunks > Tapion any day.

I agree that Lssj Broly beat the crap out of Ssj2 Gohan, Im not so sure if he would do as good against Majin Vegeta, Or ssj2 Goku..

^^^^ genius material right there.

quote tko_10xlegend

Non hax- broly is still ssj3 tier

Wow man, why don't you try backing that up??

lol i did. but what can you say. i forgot. a kick that moved broly half a meter back and a fight that never happen.

Nice, backing up your argument.

[quote=tko_10xlegend|message:32921936]hax- broly is easily close to ssj3 gotenks level in manga

This is not even worth debating, so dont bother trying to back this up, since you cant...


i actually did. but since you dont believe in toei hax. why bother

Using Toei hax isn't an arguement, it's just a lame excuse to cover your ass up.

It's ridiculous to have him anywhere near SSJ3 Gotenks.

in the haxing world . broly is on that level. but since you dont believe in toei hax then why bother

Yah, he's somewhat stronger than the average, high tier, Super Saiyan 2. Now, putting him anywhere near Super Saiyan 3 Tier is just ridiculous IMO.

ssj2 lol, might as well call broly the ssj2 not lssj.

tell me. do you see a ssj2 taking a family kamehame that can only push him. or knocking out enrage ssj2 gohan with 3 hits toying and tanking most of it attacks.

but really tell me. why is broly ssj2 level ????

I have broly with kid buu/ ssj3 goku - non hax