General Broly Debate Thread - Page 11

quote rahully2j

Gohan is a 1 shot material IMO. I have him at 57%.

Broly (FP) >> Broly (Power Displayed) > SSJ2 Gohan

This is evident by the fact that the beam from 2 SSJ2 and 1 SSJ didn't kill him.

thats too big IMO. his at best 20-30%. and that not including full power.

broly done a better job than cell with assj vegeta. and vegeta was like 10-20% of cell 50% yet vegeta final flash was able to take cell arm off.

broly tanked almost everthing gohan had but his kamehame wasn't enough to kill broly only push him. plus add to the argument that broly used 1 arm + toying. that should be 30% of his power and that was enough to handle 3 ssj.

so gohan should be 20-30% of broly power. full power it hard to say. ive once stated that broly powers ups are not normal itself. as shown when he was a baby and base

PS: this is TKO

you know i thinking about the hell subject again. i was wondering.

why would goku go ssj3 against someone who doesn't even fight back yet not go ssj3 against someone who is a much bigger threat. dont really doesnt make sense IMO.

I have to agree with you. there no relation in movies. Im a huge janemba fan but i doubt that if goku had a fight with broly in hell he would need ssj3 to match broly. beating him i doubt. if a family kamehame cant do the job then what move can ssj3 goku do ?????

another great thread

lssj broly movie 10 vs base gogeta since movie 8 is 1.4 and ssj gogeta is 2.5. movie 10 should be closer.


lssj broly movie 10 vs ssj3 goku non cannon movie 12

enjoy

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quote boldturkey

another great thread

lssj broly movie 10 vs base gogeta since movie 8 is 1.4 and ssj gogeta is 2.5. movie 10 should be closer.


lssj broly movie 10 vs ssj3 goku non cannon movie 12

enjoy

Those are video game levels, dudette.

Base saiyans doing impossible shit is something that Toei is known for. The cooler movies, androids movies, Broly, movie 12, Gohan vs Dabura, Veigot vs Boohan, Vegeta vs kid.. and I won't even get into GT.. I won't even get started on GT. Do you not see a patern Catouttahell ??

quote CatouttaHell

But, xxskelterxx, Base Gohan in Movie 10 is implied to be stronger than SSjin Goten (which is contradicted in the Kamehameha struggle) in one scene!

It can't be that Toei has an obvious Base Saiya-jin fetish or it's just their Goten/Trunks hate shining through.

They must be trying to tell us that LSSjin Broly is the strongest character in DBZ. It's the only explanation.

Base Gohan in M10 out performed SSj Goten & SSj Trunks when he did better than them against SSj Broly. SSj Goten was irrelevant in the beam struggle. I'd also like to add that not everyone who likes Broly thinks he is the strongest character in DBZ. There are other characters with better feats of power & others who would be stronger via power scaling. That said, Broly never displayed his full power in m8 until the very end after Goku absorbed Vegeta's power, & I don't think he ever used his full power in m10. He was toying the entire time & didn't power up at all in LSSj while he did numerous times in M8. So, even without any hax, it's plausible for Broly M10's full power to be SSj3 tier (depending on your multipliers, whether Goku & Gohan used an SSj2 burst at the end of the beam struggle, & how much power you think Broly was holding back).

quote Brolyfanboy12

SSj Goten was irrelevant in the beam struggle.

Broly was rapidly sending Gohan's Kamehameha back at him when the beam struggle began, but it became a standstill when Goten fired his.

Anybody who believes the Movie 10 hax really needs to watch GT.

Base Trunks outperforms SSjin 4 Goku (Beyond Limits) against Super Yi Xing Long the exact same way Base Gohan in M10 outperformed SSjin Goten, but I doubt anyone is stupid enough to claim Base Trunks >>> SSjin 4 Goku.

quote Brolyfanboy12

True, but TOEI's beam struggle logic is nonsensical. A severly beaten base kid trunks trunks fired off a basic ki blast that was able to block LSSj Broly's ki blast (which had more power than SSj Goku, SSj Gohan, & SSj Goten's combined Kamehameha's as it was forcing it back). When people combine their powers in TOEI verse against a villain, they suddenly become useful, when individually they were irrelevant fodder against that villian's weak form(s) (like SSj Goten & Trunks were against SSj Broly).

Their Base Saiya-jin logic is nonsensical as well. Base Trunks in GT outperformed SSjin 4 Goku the same way Base Gohan did the SSjin Kids.

The exact same Base Saiya-jin wanking also occurs in Movie 6, Movie 7, and Movie 12 and I seriously doubt Toei was trying to hax every villain up to be some kind of god.