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CatouttaHell Unslaad krosis N'Somniac total posts: 4821 since: Mar 2011	Jul 24, 11 at 7:41pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	Log in to remove this sponsored message The only instances of Ozaru in GT are Goku for a few moments in between him being in base and being in Golden Ozaru, and Vegeta for a bit before he goes Golden Ozaru and then SSjin 4. If you assume that Golden Ozaru = Ozaru then yeah it's definitely way above SSjin 3. Golden Ozaru Goku >>> Super Vegeta-Baby 2 >> Super Vegeta-Baby 1 >>> Vegeta-Baby > SSjin 3 Goku Vegeta goes REGULAR Ozaru for a bit before going Golden Ozaru and he manages to grab and apparently hurt SSjin 4 Goku... which is just nuts. Maybe the SSjin 4 multiplier shrank as well by the last arc of the series?
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p123 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 14117 since: Dec 2009	Jul 24, 11 at 7:45pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	Oozaru > ssj3 I'm telling you man. Ssj4 is an unheard of boosts... Ssj4 Goku > Ssj3 Gotenks is insane! How strong is Trunks/ Goten? At minimum they handle Yakkon with ease... So ssj3 Gogeta Buu Saga at min
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xMakuux King of the Iron Fist. threadnought total posts: 649 since: Feb 2011	Jul 24, 11 at 8:34pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	quote CatouttaHell The original line just said he had not put out half of his power yet... which definitely implies a minuscule boost IMO. But was that before or after Goku turned SSJ? Oh and the Perfect Files list the 50x multiplier as a "theory" IIRC.
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CatouttaHell Unslaad krosis N'Somniac total posts: 4821 since: Mar 2011	Jul 24, 11 at 10:06pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	quote p123 Oozaru > ssj3 I'm telling you man. Ssj4 is an unheard of boosts... Ssj4 Goku > Ssj3 Gotenks is insane! How strong is Trunks/ Goten? At minimum they handle Yakkon with ease... So ssj3 Gogeta Buu Saga at min Yeah, Super Vegeta-Baby I was flat-out stated to be above Super Vegetto, so at the very least SSjin 4 Goku > SSjin 2 Vegetto IMO. Even Vegetto would be fodder to the high or possibly even mid-tier GT characters. But yeah SSjin 4 is crazy. I think it makes sense for it to be a 500x boost and everything else is just nerfed. I mean, come on, when SSjin Goku loses to the same guy that Base Goku struggled with you know the boost is low as hell. SSjin 4 Goku is about equal to Golden Ozaru Vegeta-Baby too. SSjin 4 is an insane freaking boost considering that. I mean regular old Super Vegeta-Baby II would break even SSjin 3 Goku over his knee, yet SSjin 4 boosts him up that much. quote xMakuux But was that before or after Goku turned SSJ? Oh and the Perfect Files list the 50x multiplier as a "theory" IIRC. That was after he transformed into a Super Saiya-jin. You're right abotu the theory thing. quote Herms The main external features are an aura and golden hair on one’s head which stands straight up, and after the transformation one’s battle power increases remarkably!! One theory is that it becomes as much as 50 times what it is normally!! So I think it can be safely disregarded. Personally I've tried maneuvering through Toei World with a 50x boost many times and it just doesn't fit at all. Way too many "wait WTF" moments. Also, I hate to say it, but the GT Perfect Files is definitely confirmed to be wrong about nobody going SSjin 2 and SSjin 2s having sparks, which are both in that same section. It's debatable whether all manga SSjin 2s have sparks but that doesn't ring true at all in the Anime. Goku and Gohan are both absolutely confirmed to have gone SSjin 2 without sparks in GT. Vegeta and Goku have also gone SSjin 2 with sparks for a few moments, so the SSjin 2 section is wrong on both counts IMO. There's also that strange scene where Goten-Baby powers up in what seems to be SSjin... but his shirt rips off from, presumably, increased muscle mass and he has a storm of lightning around him. Considering he never went SSjin 2 again before or after that it could be that Baby managed to push him to SSjin 2 while he was inside him. But I'm getting off-topic here now.
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p123 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 14117 since: Dec 2009	Jul 24, 11 at 10:37pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	Ssj4 500x Oozaru 10x Ssj3 8x Ssj2 4x Ssj 2x Works well for me. Yea so you see it to COH huh? Thank god, thought I was the only one...
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CatouttaHell Unslaad krosis N'Somniac total posts: 4821 since: Mar 2011	Jul 24, 11 at 11:00pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	Golden Ozaru should be maybe 20x at least IMO. I mean SSjin 3 Goku was a notch below Vegeta-Baby, who was implied to be a good deal below Super Vegeta-Baby who is below Super Vegeta-Baby II. And Golden Ozaru Goku is supposedly >>> him. Which just shows what a monstrous thing SSjin 4 is. I personally have: SSjin 4 Goku - 500 Golden Ozaru Goku - 20 SSjin 3 Goku - 9 SSjin 2 Goku - 6 SSjin Goku - 3 Base Goku - 1 Vegeta-Baby - 10 Super Vegeta-Baby - 20 Super Vegeta-Baby II - 50 Golden Ozaru Vegeta-Baby - 500 Goku's SSjin 3 multiplier is so small because I believe his Chibi body just can't handle the full power of it properly.
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p123 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 14117 since: Dec 2009	Jul 24, 11 at 11:35pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	Gokus body can hold the full power just not for long. Golden Oozaru = Ss4 IMO
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DealerG high on "N" total posts: 746 since: Jun 2011	Jul 24, 11 at 11:36pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	How powerful do you guys have Vegetas base form compated to Gokus?
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p123 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 14117 since: Dec 2009	Jul 24, 11 at 11:40pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	In the Baby Saga? I'm not sure... Ssj Gohan is nothing to Base Goku but Ssj Gohan whoops Base Vegeta.. Goku is probably 2 or 3 x stronger I'm thinking...
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DealerG high on "N" total posts: 746 since: Jun 2011	Jul 24, 11 at 11:47pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	Do you guys give him a boost after the Baby saga?
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CatouttaHell Unslaad krosis N'Somniac total posts: 4821 since: Mar 2011	Jul 24, 11 at 11:52pm ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	The Gohan that beat up Base Vegeta was powered up by Baby being inside of him (the one that Goku fought only had Baby's egg.) At least that's what I personally believe. I have, in trillions: Baby Arc: Base Goku - 8 Enraged Base Pan - 6 Base Vegeta - 4.5 Base Gohan-Baby - 2.8 Base Gohan - 2 Base Trunks - 1.6 Base Pan - 1.2 Base Goten - 0.8 Super #17/Evil Dragons Arcs Base Goku - 12 Enraged Base Pan - 7.5 Base Vegeta - 8 Base Gohan - 5.5 Base Trunks - 4 Base Goten - 3.3 Base Pan - 1.5 EDIT: Congratulations on hitting 10,000 posts, p.
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DragonEmperor [The] Balthazor s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1627 since: Aug 2010	Jul 25, 11 at 12:06am ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	quote Mishimi I prefer the J way these days... guess that makes me an ultra weaboo! Yeah,who cares about pls?you just need to know whos stronger than who,by how much you ask?just look at a character statement or their previous fights simple. ------------------- Kamiccolo is my love slave
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DealerG high on "N" total posts: 746 since: Jun 2011	Jul 25, 11 at 12:30am ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	You could nerf Chibi Goku to 1/2 Adult Goku's power. That should allow you to cut the multiplier for Ssj4 in half?
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SgtMartin Kicking butt since 2004 true seeker (2K Remix) total posts: 2068 since: Dec 2010	Jul 25, 11 at 2:04am ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	I have read the posting of everyone. I'm starting to agree wit most of it. AT = 50x boost for ssj and Toei is 2x to 5 x for ssj.
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p123 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 14117 since: Dec 2009	Jul 25, 11 at 3:32am ^ re: Different SSjin boost for fusions and Toei characters?
	Kid Goku = Adult Goku . Ssj4 should def be at least a 50 - 500 boost... 50 will probably be enough honestly.. Heck possibly 20. Oozaru seems to be straight beast , and it never seemed that Golden Oozaru was millions of times stronger you know?
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