Why I don't think MSSJ is 50x base

quote metal4ever

quote xxskelterxx

You have yet to provide a logical argument in favor of the decreasing ssj Boost. I am not picky, something as simple as a manga scan would suffice.

Well, how about you go to the previous page and check out TarkanX's and p123's posts? And how about not ignoring the subtle hints Toriyama gave us such as the weight and kili measurements as well as Base Saiyan feats and statements in the Cell and Boo arc?

But I doubt that'll convince you. Hell you ignore the main characters' statements and opinions (Gohan, Vegeta, Gotenks, Piccolo).

No no no no no. 50x is 50x. That is how it is, and that is how it will always be. Toriyama says the boost turned out to be 50x, so that is what the boost is, because it is what it turned out to be. Your numbers are probably jacked up along with everyone else, so you'd probably want to work around the boost to make the numbers fit your point of view. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but you have to accept that 50x is official. I honestly don't bother with numbers at all, and don't even have a number list. You wanna know why? The manga contradicts itself, so the numbers will too. If I need to prove a character is stronger or weaker, I'd use the manga and logic. People who throw out their numbers are not using facts and only make their argument that much more invalid. Though if we want to get all technical here, 50x simply is official, has NEVER been indicated to change, nor has been stated by any of the DragonBall authors that it has changed.