More mondo TOEI hax on Goku and Cooler (in movie 6)? - Page 29

Yeah I agree with P.

Vegeta = 24k

Transformed Zarbon = 30k max? Maybe 28k?


Going by pure manga feats and power scaling, and not going by non canon Daiz guidebook that has a ton of errors.

Freeza > 120 mil

SSJ Goku should have a much smaller lead on full power Freeza than Transformed Zarbon had on 24k Vegeta.

quote p123

Kaboom you can't just cherrypick the Daiz. You are either an official guy or not. Official would include filler and GT.
You cherry pick official products , that's hypocritical...

There are some things that are just plain mistakes or oversights. Like the self-contradiction on Gohan vs Dabra, for an example. They are legitimate things worth at least raising an eyebrow about, or looking to the original source for closure.

"This official power level number doesn't mesh with MY MADE-UP RULES so it must be wrong," is not one of those cases. That's arrogance to the point of outright stupidity.

quote Victorious

Going by pure manga feats and power scaling, and not going by non canon Daiz guidebook that has a ton of errors.

A... wha... bwuh... "a ton of errors?"

Are you even remotely aware of the 99% of the rest of the total of ten volumes that don't have anything to do with damnable power levels?

Stop making yourself look like a fool. The books do not contain a "ton of errors," especially not when those so-called errors are merely the cardinal sin of disagreeing with your own deluded, self-fabricated rules about power levels, whom even the original author didn't give a damn about once he finished using them as a plot device.

Doesn't anyone even remember the entire big theme of "don't be fooled by numbers" that was basically screamed into the readers' faces throughout the entire Saiyan-to-Freeza story?

Let me get this main point across one more time, for everyone.



Don't even TRY to tell me that an official number is a mistake just because of "well character A was at 1.23x this character B and blah-de-blah'd while Character X was only a 1.14x the power of Character Y so therefore yadda-yadda... and this is why the people in charge are wrong!"

I just have to laugh a little every time I see that.

Get a grip, seriously.

quote p123

Lol, Kaboom gets real mad about this topic huh?

This is insanely frustrating. There's nothing worse than fans getting so caught up in their own obsession that they think they're the big bosses and have more say than the people in charge. Especially when they hold their own fabricated rules as gospel.

quote p123

Manga Logic > Guidebooks anyday of the week homes...

And both are WAY higher up there than the so-called "logic" of conceited fans.

LOL-I think im going to stay out of this one..
I tend to bring out the worst in people, and i rather lay low.

quote Victorious

Our 'made up rules' use the few known power gaps in the manga as our standard setters for all other power gaps.

And the guidebooks say there ARE no such minimums or maximums in power gaps. Therefore your rules are still made-up and wrong.

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We ignore guidebooks because the are not canon. We base our logic straight from examples in the source material.

And your logic is entirely subjective and made-up and still does not have any backing nor need to be taken seriously. YOU do not hold more say than the guidebooks. You should learn to live with that.

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The manga for instance suggest that a guy is 100 (Goku), can easily take out three guys who are 2/3rds his strength all at the same time.

While the guidebooks think a guy at 100 (Goku) will struggle with a single guy who is half that, 50 (Nappa).

Right, like I said, there ARE some things that are genuinely worth raising an eyebrow over. But what makes someone at 80 putting up a fight against someone at 100 so impossible? Let me answer that: Nothing, and you're still wrong.

Freeza's 100% is at 120 million. Quit thinking you know better. It's sickening.

Right, so there's something ELSE official that says 12 can rival 15.

Which means that you and your bologna rules are wrong when you say they can't.

Wrong, wrong, wrongity wrong-wrong-wrong.

I want to write a little ditty about your rules. I'll name it, "The Wrong Song."

See, because they're so wrong, get it?

quote Victorious

There's nothing in the manga that shows a fighter who is only 80% of another fighter can keep up with the superior fighter.

Surprise! There actually is. When Freeza fought Goku!

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That's evidence enough to throw out the Daiz..it contradicts manga examples and there's not a single known example in the manga that can help argue favorably for the Daiz.

It contradicts nothing but your own conceited bullcrap.