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p123 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 14193 since: Dec 2009	Feb 17, 11 at 4:19am ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	Log in to remove this sponsored message Guess inaas right rocky, you see what I mean? Goku only mentions himself turning Ssj and does not say we..
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13273 since: Aug 2010	Feb 17, 11 at 12:28pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	I think the whole confusion stems from Gohan having the super saiyan transformation in GT. Well, the most logical thing is that he lost it.
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Goku starting to like it since: Oct 2010	Feb 17, 11 at 12:58pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	Got to remember about the GT thing is that in TOEI eyes Kid > Buuhan. So TOEI's idea is: GT Gohan SSJ < Base Gt Goku > Rilldo initial >=< Goku SSJ3 >= Kid > Buuhan > Buutenks = Gohan without mind games > Gohan with mind games > Gotenks SSJ3 >= Super With Toei's train of thought, Buuhan is almost twice Gohan and kid is stronger. And there is support for a lower SSJ boost in GT, so it may be possible to fit in numbers with TOEI's logic.
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p123 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 14193 since: Dec 2009	Feb 17, 11 at 1:02pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	Where does TOEI imply this? I don't recall the JPanime ever implying any of that Kid > Buuhan stuff...
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13273 since: Aug 2010	Feb 17, 11 at 1:40pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	The jap anime never implies that. The original jap anime is the same as the manga. Filler aside of course. In the jap anime, Kaioshin says kid boo is the most troublesome. Not stronger.
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rocky_jbpe Layin' the post down since 2003! Neoholic total posts: 10494 since: Aug 2003	Feb 17, 11 at 2:30pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	Yeah, he is the most dangerous because his "soul" is gone, which means he's just a rabid animal who destroyed the world at the drop of the hat. That's why he is the most dangerous. Because as powerful as Super Boo was, he didn't just up and destroy the Earth. ------------------- Respect the best
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Infamous_666 Still Seekin' total posts: 3927 since: May 2007	Feb 17, 11 at 3:41pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	p, there is a filler line from Goku where he said Kid Boo was the strongest opponent he has ever faced in the JP anime IIRC. He faced Boohan in the anime. -------------------
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13273 since: Aug 2010	Feb 17, 11 at 6:43pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	I think that was just a mixed up Infamous. Really, Vegito is that one that really fought Goku. Goku just ran from boohan until vegita decided to fuse.
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G_O_G_E_T_A Vocare Ad Regnum (moderator) Dragonball total posts: 16087 since: May 2006	Feb 18, 11 at 9:57pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	quote Victorious Well yeah obviously, If turnning SSJ would have made Gohan any stronger he obviously would have done it on Buutenks. So It's all the same, he either can do SSJ and it does nothing or perhaps even makes him weaker...or he can't do it anymore. Well, when Kaioshin told Gohan to turn Super Saiyan and his "Mystic" powers instead kicked in, the answer is painfully obvious IMO.
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metal4ever King of the Fist s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1676 since: Dec 2008	Feb 18, 11 at 11:17pm ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	Does anyone know if Toriyama drew sketches for SSJ Gohan in GT?
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SaiyajinMaster4 Fight Me, If You're Ready To Die! forum junky total posts: 95 since: Mar 2009	Feb 19, 11 at 1:02am ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	About the removing super saiya-jin transformations from gohan, was it okay to get rid of super saiya-jin transformations in exchange for the mystic power-up? You'll never see gohan as a super saiya-jin ever again after Majin Boo Saga.
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Goku starting to like it since: Oct 2010	Feb 19, 11 at 2:22am ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	quote xxskelterxx I think that was just a mixed up Infamous. Really, Vegito is that one that really fought Goku. Goku just ran from boohan until vegita decided to fuse. Yeah, but don't you remember that Goku and Vegeta teamed up to attack Buuhan for a while. SSJ2 Goku even landed a hit to the face knocking Buuhan out of the way. The fought in anime land for about 7-8 minutes. So the statement that Kid is the strongest ever faced could stand true, but it depends. GT is certainly bleeped up.
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MiraiGohan member: postin' posse total posts: 501 since: Jan 2011	Feb 19, 11 at 2:34am ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	That fight was filler too anyway, in the Manga they fused immediately just before Buuhan threw his energy wave toward them... So there you go, Goku & Vegeta were so desperate that they didn't have any choice but to fuse forever in order to beat Buuhan. BUT when elder Kai suggested Goku & Vegeta to fuse again prior of their battle against Kid Buu, Goku said "No thanks, but I want to fight with my own power, Vegeta wouldn't fuse with me again anyway" So if Buuhan's really weaker than kid Buu, Goku wouldn't bother asking Vegeta to fuse with him, just like he did in his conversation prior of the final battle against Kid Buu.
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Goku starting to like it since: Oct 2010	Feb 19, 11 at 2:41am ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	Well I guess TOEI are contradicting themselves then. One time they make Goku and Vegeta fight Buuhan for 7-8 minutes and then say Kid Buu is the strongest they faced, and the next they don't need to fuse for kid yet Buuhan is too overwhelming. And the next that Super would kill them. And mate, you don't need to call filler when I was talking in regards to GT which means filler is "GT canon" (Base Goku v SSJ Gohan was what I was referring to in my first post in this thread). I already know that Super > Kid.
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G_O_G_E_T_A Vocare Ad Regnum (moderator) Dragonball total posts: 16087 since: May 2006	Feb 19, 11 at 11:08am ^ re: Proof That Gohan Can Still Turn Super Saiyan?
	quote SaiyajinMaster4\| About the removing super saiya-jin transformations from gohan, was it okay to get rid of super saiya-jin transformations in exchange for the mystic power-up? You'll never see gohan as a super saiya-jin ever again after Majin Boo Saga. What do you mean, "was it okay"? Of course it was, since removing Super Saiyan and making Gohan's base form a limitless state of power that could wield his full power and more, was the best thing that could have happened to Gohan. Think about it; all your power available to you in your base state, without the strain Super Saiyan (2) has, it can only be positive. quote Mirai Gohan So if Buuhan's really weaker than kid Buu, Goku wouldn't bother asking Vegeta to fuse with him, just like he did in his conversation prior of the final battle against Kid Buu. The anime is a hopeless mess in the Buu arc thanks to fillers and bad Funi dublines. It happened with Super Buu as well; first they (Funi) have Goku claim that Buucollo is nothing to him, but they leave the canon quote about unaltered Super Buu (who's logically weaker than Buucollo) killing SSJ3 Goku if they fought, in-tact. It becomes a paradox really: SSJ3 Goku > Buucollo > Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku. So...
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