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asntrnty forum junky total posts: 82 since: Sep 2010	Dec 25, 10 at 2:24pm ^ Super Android 13 = how strong?
	Log in to remove this sponsored message How strong is this guy? I know the Daiz says that 16 is the strongest Android ever created by Gero besides Cell, but it seems like that was comparing Android 16 to all the androids that were created by Gero himself or his computer. Super 13 is sort of a combination/fusion of Androids 13, 14, and 15. Not to mention how the movie villains are always overpowered.
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ussj_vegeta Neophyte total posts: 25 since: Dec 2010	Dec 25, 10 at 4:07pm ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	I would say his power is marginally higher than perfect cell, as he was able to fight on with a hole in his stomach. But that is presuming SSJ2 Gohan is the same strength against Bojack as he was against Cell.
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13265 since: Aug 2010	Dec 25, 10 at 4:13pm ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	The guy is strong, he might be as strong as any of the cells...IMO.
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Thompson neologist total posts: 421 since: Aug 2010	Dec 25, 10 at 5:04pm ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	He was fighting pre rosat ssj's, right? He could be around as strong as 17 and still rape their asses easily. And if i remember correctly, Piccolo was Kamiccolo there, but of course he can't be the hero so they nerfed him to hell.
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13265 since: Aug 2010	Dec 25, 10 at 5:33pm ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	I say as strong as Cell becuase he is also fused with two other android...but who knows, movies are shit anyways.
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Mishimi Neo: Essential total posts: 12517 since: Sep 2008	Dec 25, 10 at 10:21pm ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	quote asntrnty How strong is this guy? I know the Daiz says that 16 is the strongest Android ever created by Gero besides Cell, but it seems like that was comparing Android 16 to all the androids that were created by Gero himself or his computer. Super 13 is sort of a combination/fusion of Androids 13, 14, and 15. Not to mention how the movie villains are always overpowered. 16 was the strongest android canon wise.... Non canon wise, Super 13 is way beyond 16's power... Most people place him at around Semi Cells power or so... Some place him even stronger...
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Goku starting to like it since: Oct 2010	Dec 26, 10 at 1:08am ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	Probably between Imperfect humans absorbed and Semi Cell. He managed to pretty much one shot most of the good guys at the start of battle. However Humans Absorbed could beat the super saiyans with the same ease IMO being >> to Piccolo who is > Saiyans. It really depends on where you see 13,14,15. 13 was about equal to SSJ Goku while 14 and 15 are a fair way weaker than SSJs. I don't think 14,15 are too far above Mecha Frieza. EG Vegeta 250 Goku 270 Trunks 225 13 270 14 175 15 175 Super 13 600 at least. Even if these numbers are out we know that at 600 Super 13 holds a 55% advantage, well into one shotting the Saiyans. Most people see Super 13 even higher than this. I'm not sure where other believe the SSJs and 13,14,15 are power wise, but at these levels Super 13 > Imperfect Cell Humans but is weaker than Semi Cell.
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Old Man Zangetsu Be a Kong! Dont Wear Pants! Neo: Essential total posts: 12808 since: Aug 2007	Dec 26, 10 at 1:10am ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	quote ussj_vegeta I would say his power is marginally higher than perfect cell, as he was able to fight on with a hole in his stomach. But that is presuming SSJ2 Gohan is the same strength against Bojack as he was against Cell. That would be bojack. This guy is completely different ------------------- Fire Emblem 3DS!
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ussj_vegeta Neophyte total posts: 25 since: Dec 2010	Dec 26, 10 at 1:52am ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	Oh yeh, my bad, super 13...well i consider him about USSJ Trunks level or slightly less as he was beating down on pre ROSAT super saiyans and kamicollo like no-ones business.
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Goku starting to like it since: Oct 2010	Dec 26, 10 at 2:05am ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	He doesn't have to be on USSJ Trunks level to own pre ROSAT saiyans. Look at it this way, 18 kicked Vegetas ass easily. Kamicollo in canon is a little above this. Imperfect Cell tanked Piccolo's best attack, while he also beat 17 down with 0 effort. If Cell humans absorbed can tank Piccolo's attack and effortlessly beat 17, he could beat the ALL Pre ROSAT Saiyans in a curbstomping. He doesn't need to be that high to win. Plus we do not know if Piccolo is fused in this movie, Its not proven to be a continuation from movie 6.
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p123 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 14139 since: Dec 2009	Dec 26, 10 at 7:16am ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	Yea Imperfect Cell tanking Piccolo's attack suggests that an Android 16 level opponent would absolutley wreck the Pre Rosat SSJs. In light of that Super 13 logically wouldn't have to be any stronger than Android 16 to accomplish the feats he pulled off... The thing is, it appears that Gero is dead, which would suggests that he was killed in the same manner would it not? Now one could plausibly assume perhaps there was no Cell in this timeline or whatever, but what the hell happened to at least 17 and 18? Could these Pre Rosat SSJs have killed them? How could they have died? What's the storyline behind this? Like how could have this come about? Did Tien Shin Kikoho the crap out of 17 and 18? Lol..
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Sleazy Freeza The Ice Prince has no game... ultra seeker total posts: 1276 since: Oct 2010	Dec 26, 10 at 8:59am ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	^I think that in the Super 13 dimension, Kamiccolo probably teamed up with Pre-Rosat SSJ Vegeta and Trunks (and possibly Goku if he had recovered by then) and destroyed 17 and 18 (there was probably no 16) and Imperfect Cell. -------------------
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Goku starting to like it since: Oct 2010	Dec 26, 10 at 9:20am ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	Could have been deactivated with a controller like in Cells time. What is more strange is the fact that Trunks lives in Goku's time as if he doesn't need to go back.
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G_O_G_E_T_A Vocare Ad Regnum (moderator) Dragonball total posts: 16063 since: May 2006	Dec 26, 10 at 11:52am ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	quote asntrnty How strong is this guy? I know the Daiz says that 16 is the strongest Android ever created by Gero besides Cell, but it seems like that was comparing Android 16 to all the androids that were created by Gero himself or his computer. Super 13 is sort of a combination/fusion of Androids 13, 14, and 15. Not to mention how the movie villains are always overpowered. The Daiz does indeed mention that. But I don't know if it also takes the movies into consideration; for certain the Daiz are based on the anime more than the manga, but if they account for the movies as well, I don't know. As such, I stick to my own opinion that Super #13 is more or less in Semi-Cell's ballpark of strength. For some reason I always felt that comparison to be rather fitting. quote p123 The thing is, it appears that Gero is dead, which would suggests that he was killed in the same manner would it not? Now one could plausibly assume perhaps there was no Cell in this timeline or whatever, but what the hell happened to at least 17 and 18? Could these Pre Rosat SSJs have killed them? How could they have died? What's the storyline behind this? Like how could have this come about? It was actually shown that #17 killed Gero in exactly the same fashion as he did it in the original storyline, by decapitating him. I always assumed that the most likely and straightforward explanation was that the Super Saiyans and/or Piccolo took care of them, as well as Imperfect Cell when he wasn't all powered up by the humans yet. No idea where that leaves #16 though, he was WAY stronger than all of the previously named fighters, at least in the canon arc he was...
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asntrnty forum junky total posts: 82 since: Sep 2010	Dec 26, 10 at 9:01pm ^ re: Super Android 13 = how strong?
	quote Saren It really depends on where you see 13,14,15. 13 was about equal to SSJ Goku while 14 and 15 are a fair way weaker than SSJs. I don't think 14,15 are too far above Mecha Frieza 14 and 15 definitely stronger than Mecha Frieza, as they were able to knock Trunks and Vegeta out of their super saiyan forms. Mecha Frieza couldn't do jack to Trunks. Super 13's strength depends on how strong you think a fusion of three androids (one that's equal to a super saiyan and two that are a bit weaker than a super saiyan) would be. It also depends if you think there were multipliers involved in his fusion or if it was just an addition of power. He's definitely nowhere near Perfect Cell since that form of Cell is a combination of three androids that would annihilate any super saiyan with no efforts (17, 18, and Imperfect Cell humans absorbed). I also think he's weaker than Semi-Perfect Cell because Super 13 tanked punches from regular super saiyans while Semi-Cell tanked punches from Android 16. Tanking punches from 16 > Tanking punches from regular super saiyans. I don't think Super 13 would be able to just stand there if 16 punched him. Edit: Dec 26, 10
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