Dragonball General Discussion 25 - Page 14

Well, in essence it's still fusion of course, only to a much greater degree because Piccolo and Kami used to be one originally, or rather; Kami and Piccolo Daimao used to be. And you also have to keep in mind that Piccolo despised Kami, so it stands to reason he'd give him zero credibility.

quote super michael

I know this is a old discussion, but did goten and trunks ever have any tail? in this chapter krillen ask about trunks tail. The reason I ask, is because to know if there was a interview that answered this question.

It's unknown really, since Bulma never answered Krillin's question and AT never touched upon this issue again in the manga. I personally think they used to have tails, but their parents had it removed because of the risks they could cause.

Vegeta probably thought it made more sense to have Trunks train for SSJ rather than mastering the Oozaru form. I know Vegeta cared a lot about his tail, but it's just an unnecessary distraction during the night and/or training...

Bulma probably didn't like the tail and Gohan told his mom to remove Goten's.

quote super michael

I understand chichi removing goten tail, since she didn't want gohan to be distracted from study and goku was dead. But what about vegeta, vegeta has the strength to overpower trunk in oozaru form, so I don't see the risk there.

If vegeta could learn to fully master his oozaru form, then trunks would be possible to master, if he train in the form.

Well, be that as it may; I doubt Bulma would be happy with Trunks keeping his tail, and it always seemed to me as though Bulma's word was law in their "household"...

Bulma has had bad experiences with Goku's oozaru. No way would she let her son have a tail/have the potential of becoming a giant, dangerous monkey.

A while back i brought up the discussion on Turles and how he could possibly be Goku's cousin. I cant remember if i started a thread (which i cant find so probably not), brought it up in a Turles thread or brought it up here in a previous GD? lol, but i just thought of another point that backs up my theory.

The points i brought up before were (in short).
Goku being second child, and Goten being second child have the same hairstyle. What if, in keeping to this pattern, Bardock was a second child and his older brother had 2 kids. The second one could be Turles.

After raising this i was countered with a line that said something like "we're all from the same fruit" or something like that anyway..."same mould" rings a bell...? lol. Basically you guys interpreted it as Lower Class Saiyin looking the same.

Anyway, i finally have something to counter this. (yay for me haha)

When Frieza first sees Goku, he recognizes him as looking like Bardock. This leads me to believe that not all lower class saiyins look alike. He was shocked to see someone look like Bardock, and not because it was another saiyin, but because he looked exactly like Bardock. This leads me to further believe my theory a bit

When Cell was defeated and the Z fighter wished everyone on earth to be revived, how come android 16 wasn't revived? Before someone say that Android 16 was a full robot, an android has been revived later on.

Android 8 was revived in the buu saga, when the whole earth was blown up. In this chapter we see that android 8 was revived like everyone else.

So if android 8 is the same like android 16 fully robot, how come android 16 wouldn't be able to be revived while android 8 yes.

I wonder if this has been discussed already.

Edit

never mind, I read the manga, android 8 is more like a cyborg than android. Cyborg 8 can feel the cold and has to eat like normal human. So I guess there is no plot hole.

@ Super Michael


Yea that's kind of messed up they didn't bring 16 back. But he is fully robotic, and would not contain a soul, thus nothing to bring back. But 16 did display that he was learning humanity and it probably would have been interesting in the route his existence took on. Although, it could be a problem since his number one mission is to kill Goku, and we don't need good ol 16 malfunctioning and trying to kill Goku in his sleep and what not...But yea, I guess at the end of the day, 16 is just like a highly advanced microwave oven or something...


@ Clief


I like the idea of Turles being Goku's cousin. I think your idea is totally plausible, and IMO, fits better than the whole Evil Goku side of things. I like that, and will think of Turles as a cousin from now on...




And yea, I think the best way to think of Trunks/Goten not having a tail, is simply that Bulma/ChiChi thought better of it to remove it early on, and save any potential destruction. I mean really, why keep the tail? Super Saiyan has been shown to be a far superior form to Oozaru, but it would have been nice to see what happens to a Super Saiyan who can transform Oozaru as well.