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Me 2. I thought that's pretty much how the fight would go as well. Cell is a smart clever mofo. Dabura has some tricks but he's nowhere near the fighter Dabura is.

However they got Cell's power wrong in there. They are assuming Gohan is SSJ and that Dabura is only a little stronger than that.

And they have Cell as the same power as the beggining of the Cell Games? Or the same as when he fought Gohan and Goku or something like that.


They fail to realize Dabura > PC

I doubt that Teen Gohan could break out of SPC hold and make him flinch.

I have SSj2 Teen Gohan @80% of Broly. Sure Broly is super dominant and all but he's not like a god to Gohan. Gohan breaks free of his hold and what not.


I think SPC would one shot SSJ2 Teen Gohan. Teen Gohan would not be able to do anything to SPC in the least let alone make him flinch.

Yes I agree. I have the same difference for Cell and Piccolo as well.


There's seriously no reason to overrate Broly.

Call it plot device or not he is killed by Super Saiyans. I don't see the likelihood of SSJs killing Kid Gohan or SPC.


And he is shown to be significantly stronger than SSJ2 Teen Gohan but it's not like he one shotted Gohan.

SPC would one shot Teen Gohan.

Well that takes a little explaining. Geez this is going to be long.


Kid Gohan is WTFGODSTOMPPWNPWNPWN levels above Perfect Cell.

Gohan has to be around double his power .


SSJ2 Teen Gohan is much much weaker than his Kid counterpart. He probably can beat Cell easily but noweheer near the fasion his younger self could.

PC is roughly 80% of SSJ2 Teen Gohan'spower


Vegeta laughs off Gohans and Daburas power. He is confident he can easily beat them but it's not like he's one shotting them. I think Veget wins this easily but Gohan is not anywhere near one shot range.

Gohan is 85% of Vegeta


Broly owns Gohan. Pure domination. But Gohan is able to somewhat keep up against Broly and even breaks free from him and causes hm to flinch. Broly cant one shot Gohan. I think Broly is stronger than Gohan by a bit more of what I estimate Vegeta would do to Gohan.

Gohan is 80% of Broly


SPC is on kid Gohan's level. Any disagreements here?

I don't think Broly lost power in LSSJ mode in Movie 10. It is never stated so why would I assume that? But I guess that's the issue here more than anything.


Well then do you at least agree on my Movie 10 level for Broly?

Any idea of issue or anything? What the hell does Daiz even have on Broly?

After he reaches his limit in Movie 8 he never reaches his limit again either.


I dunno dude. SSJ Broly has burns on his chest yes? I can agree with him. LSSJ Broly looks exactly like from Movie 8.

Perhaps his SSJ form was hurt but LSSJ is a special transformation and is not effected?

So basically Movie 10 has


SSJ Broly >= Base Gohan >= SSJ Trunks,Goten >= Videl


So let' say we take this from the manga. Obviously the Gohan and Videl have been powered up but perhaps Goten and Trunks are right.


Goten and Trunks are able to cause concern to FPSSJ Gohan and FPSSJ Vegeta.

So this would make SSJ Broly about the level of what he was in the movies if you ask me. Well at least his restricted level.

Gohan's Base Movie 10 = SSJ Gohan Movie 8?


How about that so far agreed or no?

I would think Dabura is much stronger than Freeza and Cooler pre Majin.


If we look at Vegeta as an example it's not as if Vegeta got a tremendous power up. Sure he powered up a good margin enough to close the gap between him and Goku but it's not like he was a really weak power and now a super power.


I have Vegeta's Pre Majin at 14 and Post at 20 .


So significant increase indeed but like I said it's not like it makes you on a completely different level.

I have Dabura Post Majin @ 12.5


So Pre Majin would be like 9 or so.



So he is a little weaker than Perfect Cell . Probably Bojack level or so.


Perfect Cell is 10.

I don't think you have a choice though. Maybe over time? I dunno, the issue is more about dramatic effect. Wow brought past his limits huh? Wow look at him he his power is almost coming out of his body kind of scenario.

AT likely didn't think that far into reasons why Yakkon, Pui Pui, or Dabura didn't have veins etc.


In story I would say after being under the Majin influence your body can get used to the power and it not be such an extreme effect on your body while maintaining the same power.