Dragon Ball: Q & A Evolution - Page 5

Because it is part of Earth as a whole.

Zenkai is a very commonly used fan term, a Japanese term that describes when a Saiyajin, or Cell, recovers from near death and gets an increase in strength. Like Goku did when he trained at x100 gravity on his way to Namek, and the numerous times Vegeta healed on Namek...

Cell got one when he self destructed because he has Saiyajin DNA, and self destructing like that is the closest a being like Cell can be to death...

GOGETA can explain that to you better, he made a topic about it a while back IIRC....

Cell seems to have 2 maybe even 3 different types of regeneration if I remember what GOGETA said... Maybe just 2....

But he has Namekian regeneration, where he can regenerate fine as long as his head isn't damaged.

And he seems to have his own type of regeneration as well, as his head was blown to bits when he self destructed, and even Cell himself was surprised he came back, so I think it was a surprise to him as much as it was to us fans when it happened....

Cell pointed to his head earlier in the series when he mentioned his core. When he self destructed, he specifically said one cell, not the core, just a single cell survived, and he came back from it unexpectedly.... So the theory is perhaps Gero gave Cell more than one type of regeneration to fall back on. Perhaps Gero made it so that if Cell self destructed, it would purposely leave only one cell behind, hence causing a zenkai to happen so that he would be strong enough potentially to deal with whatever threat made him feel the need to self destruct to begin with...

With the core destroyed, and only one singular cell remaining, he was as close to death as he could be as a being that can regenerate on a whim, which Saiyajins cannot do.

Gero seemed to utilize the attributes from all the collected DNA that he could muster in his research and programming. Combining Namekian regeneration with Saiyajin zenkais, and making it so that the core must be destroyed in order for this process to happen....

GOGETA may be able to elaborate or add to what I just said, but that's pretty much the theory.... It was never stated, so it is not fact, factually we don't know, but this theory checks out, and is supported by the actions in the manga... So it is basically factual in that context...

Actually, there may be 3 types... Gokus IT Kame blew off his head, and he was able to regenerate from that. The core was seemingly destroyed then as well, but he regenerated, and did not receive a zenkai, he was tired from it actually.... So that may be the third type of regen GOGETA mentioned, I am not sure...

It is confusing.... LOL

The regeneration subject, and the timelines issue is confusing to some people as well...

What? The third one makes no sense seeing as how his head and the rest of his body was completely destroyed when he self destructed, and he said only one cell survived, not a cell from his core or the core itself....

Are you saying that one cell was one part of many to his core? Thus it was not fully destroyed?

I don't know about that one.... I think the way I explained it as far as him self destructing sounds better my friend... Even Cell himself was shocked he came back, he expected to die after self destructing... So I think his core was destroyed...

I believe "core regeneration" in the self destructing scenario means that his core was also regenerated.... The self destruction scene and Gokus IT Kame scenes suggest he does not need the core in his head to survive in order to regenerate, just one living cell...

Personally, after thinking about it, I think Cell only has one kind of regeneration, not 3 different variants.... He has his own kind of regeneration based off of Namekian regen, but Cell's was programmed by Gero to be superior in the fact his head can be destroyed, and so can his core....

Cell more than likely thought otherwise because of the Namekien DNA, same way Freezas DNA told him what Goku was up to with the homing Kienzans Cell used...

Perhaps Gero meant to keep that hidden from Cell's knowledge for whatever reason, but fact remains what Cell said about his core when he pointed to his head was contradicted, thus proven to be false, mainly by Gokus IT Kame, as his head and complete upper half od his body was completely gone... Unless his core went "Oh shit!" and migrated down to Cells legs, then his core was destroyed before he even self destructed....

So it is more like Cell has the ability to regenerate as long as one cell survives...

One thing I remember during the Namek saga was when Krillin was taken by Dende to Guru, who proceeded to "unlock his hidden powers". So uh, what the hell exactly did that do again? I don't recall Krillin gaining much from it afterwards, unless it was just the ability to fend himself a tad more before getting popped by Frieza.

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What? The third one makes no sense seeing as how his head and the rest of his body was completely destroyed when he self destructed, and he said only one cell survived, not a cell from his core or the core itself....

I don't know what dub of manga translation you're thinking of, but in Viz's, he literally states that a small cluster of cells that make up his core survived the explosion, and as long as his core remains unharmed, he can continue on regenerating. That's what was stated, that's the facts. His core was not destroyed, it was the only microscopic piece of his being that survived the blast. I see this type of regeneration as more of a "failsafe", so that he can regenerate even if he's blown to microscopic pieces and "normal" regeneration cannot save him any more...

The variant he displayed against Goku was clearly a different one, as his head, along with his core were destroyed. But enough ki was left in his body, as well as a sufficient amount of organic mass to regenerate from, which appears to be enough, unlike the traditional Namekian variant, which requires the head to be in tact, as stated by Piccolo. This could in extension mean the core in particular rather than the entire head, but we don't know that for sure.

The Namekian variant needs a good amount of ki to regenerate, whilst the "failsafe/core regeneration" hardly needed any. Cell was as good as dead, there was little to none ki left in his core when it initiated the regeneration of Cell's body, so that's a signiicant difference between these two types, which is why I think Cell does possess more than one type of regeneration...

This message was edited by G_O_G_E_T_A on May 08 2009.

Hmmmmmm.... I don't recall him saying anything about his core surviving after he self destructed, just a single cell, but Gokus IT Kame still disproves that he needs his core to regenerate period. But if he has enough ki he can do so....

So his core regeneration can take place even if he has no ki.... I guess that makes sense....


See, I told Grim it is confusing, and it is... LOL

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So his core regeneration can take place even if he has no ki.... I guess that makes sense....

Yep its true here is a manga scan I found that states the same thing that G_O_G_E_T_A was talking about.