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Jan 10, 08 at 06:44AM
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quote chelskiman
I don't need to have played the game when posting in a General Discussion thread

That's like telling me not to post in the UK Forum simply because I'm not from the UK.

That's exactly why you are allowed to post here.

But, other than posting, you should respect the regulars here, like BG, Storm, Neto [ and others of course ] though and their corresponding feelings, and not talk like that.

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Jan 10, 08 at 06:54AM
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I do respect there opinions, but I also have mine. I also feel I'm a regular here too, and even though I haven't played the game that doesn't make me any less of a member.

Tbh I really don't know how this is going to get solved. No matter what we decide on I bet one person still won't be fully happy. I've talked to Lone about it and even he doesn't know. He only brought the issue up as some members were getting annoyed, and as such he shouldn't have to feel pressured into making a decision if we can't make it on our own because that won't be good for the forum.

I will try and cut down on the football talk, mainly because I love all you guys, you're my friends, so I'm willing to sacrifice footy talk to continue being friends with you guys.



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Jan 10, 08 at 07:54AM
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Just cant win with you guys.

quote EdwardTheBard
That's ironic if you think that it comes from a person who hasn't even played the game.
Thats one of my points.. Chelski is a friend on the forum, he hasn't played FF8 at all so he wouldn't know anything about it. If you lot got your own way then chelski shouldn't be posting on the forum at all and I dont want that.
I can see why more girls than boys have a problem with football because its a mans game so I can see it may make you feel left out a bit but like I said before you dont have to say anything.

quote Balambgirl
Why should we not be able to post because some mebers have no consideration for other peoples interests or feelings. if 4 or 5 people have come forward saying their is a problem and they feel left out you csnt ignore that.
Whatever they want to say they wont be left out because we'd respond to whatever they said.

quote Balambgirl
But as regulars and quite long standing members of the forum i feel our opinions deserve more respect than they are getting
Thats pretty cold.. Am I getting any respect? Theres only me and Chelski who ain't agains't this so obviously we're gonna lose so theres NO POINT in duscussing this and no point in discussing football on the forum. Even though the GD is also being spammed by other topics I aint interested or know nothing about, I dont moan about it, I get on with it.

Yeah.. Maybe I did comment about wrestling, again thats stating my opinion. Yeah I talked about it but not always as it didn't interest me.



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Jan 10, 08 at 08:11AM
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quote OccultFan
Thats one of my points.. Chelski is a friend on the forum, he hasn't played FF8 at all so he wouldn't know anything about it. If you lot got your own way then chelski shouldn't be posting on the forum at all and I dont want that.
But, we've also said that it's not only FF VIII that unites us, but something more. It's about our community after all. And Chelski belongs to the FF VIII community even though he hasn't played the game as of yet.

quote OccultFan
I can see why more girls than boys have a problem with football because its a mans game...
It's not about the gender. Storm doesn't like football while Artemis loves it. It doesn't change anything. It all comes to each one's likes and dislikes.



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quote OccultFan
Thats pretty cold.. Am I getting any respect? Theres only me and Chelski who ain't agains't this so obviously we're gonna lose so theres NO POINT in duscussing this and no point in discussing football on the forum
I dont think you and chelski are being disrespected, you are the one who keeps minimising our complaints to 'whining' or 'moaning'. Your not acknowledging how it makes people feel. and at no point did ANYONE say they didnt want chelski topost on this forum, hes an important part of our community, dont pu words in peoples mouths.

quote Balambgirl
but if absolutely no change occurs, even just talking about it less than now, but still talking about it, then that is complete disrespect for our feelings
By that i meant that was the suggested change-talking about it less, but obviously still discussing it. What i was saying was if even that doesn’t happen, if there isn’t a decrease at all, then that is disrespectful to our opinions.

quote Chelskiman
He only brought the issue up as some members were getting annoyed, and as such he shouldn't have to feel pressured into making a decision
I don’t think he should have to either, but we were entitled to express our feelings, and some members being annoyed/left out is a very good reason to bring something up. A problem needs solving and it was evidentially a problem.

quote Edward the Bard
Because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't mean that she or he disperects/ignores you. We all respect your opinion, that's why we're discussing this matter.
I agree with that, and it wasn’t in every post. Some posts people we're disagreeing which is perfectly understandable, but other posts i felt were discounting our opinions and arguments.

quote Chelskiman
I will try and cut down on the football talk, mainly because I love all you guys, you're my friends, so I'm willing to sacrifice footy talk to continue being friends with you guys
Exactly, we are all friends here and i want that to continue. Obviously, as your are my friends too i don't want you to never talk about football as you enjoy it, just to be aware how long the conversation has gone on for or maybe just include more than one topic in your post, so the football people have something to respond to and maybe something more general so others don’t feel left out. Hopefully this can be an end to the argument, if we can agree to obviously ignore some of the football posts and let you guys have your conversations even if we don’t have any input, and you guys can agree to just limit it a little more than recently, then hopefully the issue will be resolved.
And sorry if anyone has been hurt during the course of this topic, that was nobodys intention, i'm sure.









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Jan 10, 08 at 09:14AM
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Wow no need to get sexist. Who gives a damn if it's such a 'macho man' game? OF, what do you mean you're not getting any respect...we are just bringing something up, and you seem to just be denying it over and over again.

Take a look at the GD's, how much of it discusses football? I mean come on, the topic's almost a centralized topic, and that's not what this forum's for...the football forum is. Please read this thread over again, with a clear mind no less. We're all friends here, and even friends have their disputes, but don't take things as disrespect and jump to conclusions, please.

You're blowing things way out of proportion, man. It's not about, "zoh my god! It's liek 5v2! We uz gonna loos!" (DAMN I hate intentionally typing like that). It's a simple debate between friends. Who here has said they want football completely gone from here? No one but you keeps believing we do. It's just to tone it down a bit, more occasional talk than usual.

You have to consider our thoughts on the matter...I consider all of your's for wrestling, cricket, etc.. I mean, I bring up Transformers quite often, but it's not like I mention it on every page.

BG, GG, Neto, Amari, and others have come forward, and just reading over the thread, you are overreacting. GG especially pointed out making the football forum a fun place to visit since you don't like it there...give it a shot.

By the way, Chelski, you're not going to lose our friendship if you continue to discuss football. That was never going to happen. Just slightly, and I mean slightly, bring it down a bit.



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Jan 10, 08 at 09:51AM
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I could individually quote tiny parts from all posts in the past two pages I disagree with. But I won't. I must admit I'm disillusioned to see how this turned out, but it was one of the predicaments I had in mind anyway.

This post of mine will be the bottom line in the argument, hopefully. So I'll try to word it the best way I can.

Like mentioned above, this forum is based on the community and the fact that we're all friends with each other. And I am personally willing to sacrifice a few posts on football in order to make fellow members feel more welcome in the GD.

I think the purpose has been achieved, even in a rather disappointing way. These past 2-3 pages have raised awareness so we all know that we should make a little extra effort to make other members welcome in the GD. That doesn't mean not talking about football at all, of course, just limiting the extent of football related discussion.


I'd appreciate if you didn't try to continue the argument, what needed to be heard has been heard more than once already.

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Jan 10, 08 at 10:19AM
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Lol get a grip everyone, whoever's ruining the FF8 community is a *bleep*.

There's only so much you can talk about in this game, an off-topic community is no harm. Different kinds pop up here and there.



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Jan 10, 08 at 10:38AM
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quote Lone Warrior
I'd appreciate if you didn't try to continue the argument, what needed to be heard has been heard more than once already.
*glare*

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quote Derp
There's only so much you can talk about in this game, an off-topic community is no harm.
Which brings me to a new suggestion.

I think we should get rid of the 'general theories' thread and have a separate one for each. I honestly don't know why a game with so many theories should warrant one thread. If I remember correctly, someone did it because the Ulti=Rinoa topic was getting off topic. But now that we have a mod, that won't happened, else our asses will be spanked.


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Jan 14, 08 at 07:37AM
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Sounds good as a concept. I need some feedback, though. I can't think much at my condition, how many theories are there?

There's certainly the R=U theory which is the major hit of the existing theories thread, the Squall dies at the end theory (which already has its own thread), some Hyne theories (that could be discussed in the Great Hyne thread), maybe the Squall-Laguna theory (which is more than a theory), I must be missing a few?

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I'm sure there are more that people will come up with.

But regardless, those four theories you mentioned have some great discussion value and certainly shouldn't all be merged into one thread, IMO.



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Jan 16, 08 at 02:20AM
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I really need the game then, otherwise I won't be discussing anything



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Jan 16, 08 at 04:14AM
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quote Balambgirl
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I'd find it rude to just change the topic on the spot unless someone responds to the current one brought up, being football.
Exactly, i would feel that i was ignoring that persons post and that wouldn't be nice. So if an 'exclusive' subject is discussed it either ends up people having to change the topic and the process ignoring someone, or a group of members not into whatever the discussion may be are not able to post.
And even if you do post something to interrupt, it gets ignored and the original discussion of football or what not continues getting discussed. It may attribute to why my posting in this forum has dramatically reduced.

You tend to not feel like posting, if all you're doing is wasting your own time, typing out a post that is only going to be ignored.

quote Amari
Saying that you can just change the subject on the GD is not as simple as it seems, often the post will just be ignored and the one before it continued which can demeaning of the person.
Exactly my point.

And that's my two-cents worth. I didn't realise there was a cease fire until after I'd posted this, so I apologise to Lone, but as a member, I wanted to contribute my opinion.


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Matt I dont like that topic!

Good point Hell but there are so many theorys it'll just be spam, mind you a thread for each theory is easy to find I guess.



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