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gobi1972 N'Somniac total posts: 4932 since: Oct 2001	Jun 01, 10 at 1:00am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	Log in to remove this sponsored message quote Final Fantasy 0 I'm gonna be doing this soon. I doubt I'll be able to beat Diablos or Edea in disc 1. Oh and you can't beat the game at level 100, that's for sure. Shockwave Pulsar anyone? actually, I don't think ya can finish the game. Without junctioning, only thing ya can do is attack. If ya rely only on limit break, ya on a suicidal mission. ONLY with junctioning, can ya get Item ability and only with this, can ya revive someone who KOed. So, are ya sure ya can whack an enemy before it whacks ya all with party-hitting magic?
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Final Fantasy 0 What can you do? Charge me with smoking? true seeker total posts: 1086 since: Sep 2008	Jun 01, 10 at 3:08pm ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	Meh, I'm downlaoding FF7 atm.
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Angelus Playing The Walking Dead ultra seeker since: Jul 2009	Jun 01, 10 at 3:42pm ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	Ive tried this and I didnt get very far. I got to Elvoret and died horribly...never tried to do it again. ------------------- Survival Horror Social / Charmed / Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
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gobi1972 N'Somniac total posts: 4932 since: Oct 2001	Jun 02, 10 at 2:03am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	quote Angelus Ive tried this and I didnt get very far. I got to Elvoret and died horribly...never tried to do it again. Yup, I guess that's how far one can go. Even if ya skip obtaining Ifrit, and run away from all the battles with the Galbadians, ya cannot run from boss fights. Elvoret could be the first enemy which hits everyone in the party with (wind-based) attack. If ya were to survive this (which could be meaningless cos ya couldn't have Siren, and therefore no Tool ability for ya to modify yer cards/items for later use), ya still have to survive been chase by the machinal spider. Frankly speaking, no-junction game is impossible, no matter how low ya keep Squall's level in.
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sephiroth_campbell ultra seeker total posts: 1463 since: Mar 2010	Jun 02, 10 at 8:58am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	i have completed the game wothout junctioning anything lol it is verry hard and extremely frustrating...oh a word for the wise if you do try it DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO GET TONBERRY KING lol i got my ass handed to me every time.... gobli: your methods just wrong all thats needed is to keep training on grats till your about level 40-50 then do the ifrit battle -------------------
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Angelus Playing The Walking Dead ultra seeker since: Jul 2009	Jun 02, 10 at 1:01pm ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	quote sephiroth_campbell i have completed the game wothout junctioning anything lol it is verry hard and extremely frustrating...oh a word for the wise if you do try it DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO GET TONBERRY KING lol i got my ass handed to me every time.... gobli: your methods just wrong all thats needed is to keep training on grats till your about level 40-50 then do the ifrit battle i smell bullshit. you are such a liar cause every enemy in the game levels up with you so even if you were level 50 or whatever, the bosses would still slaughter you. ------------------- Survival Horror Social / Charmed / Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
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sephiroth_campbell ultra seeker total posts: 1463 since: Mar 2010	Jun 02, 10 at 5:25pm ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	quote Angelus quote sephiroth_campbell i have completed the game wothout junctioning anything lol it is verry hard and extremely frustrating...oh a word for the wise if you do try it DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO GET TONBERRY KING lol i got my ass handed to me every time.... gobli: your methods just wrong all thats needed is to keep training on grats till your about level 40-50 then do the ifrit battle i smell bullshit. you are such a liar cause every enemy in the game levels up with you so even if you were level 50 or whatever, the bosses would still slaughter you. actually the only bosses that level up higher than a fixed level are tonberry king odin diablos abadon jumbo cactuar both weapons all of ultemecias servants dont even get to lvl 100 apart from catopbleopas and shinxara the rest only go to a certain level eg elvoret only goes to level 11... xatmo92 only goes to level 10 the president delling only goes to level 12 gerogero goes to level 12 brothers only go to level 75 siefer and edea (disk 1) only go to level 20 and so on.... belive me i have just looked through the official guide to confirm this....i know what im saying as for actually beliveing that EVERY enemy in the game levels up with squall is stupid... 1.if it where true edea would just be able to cast death on squall on disk 1 and maelstrom too 2.it would make the game far too hard to play..... also i can give stats and hp figure for most levels on bosses if you like.....? Edit: Jun 02, 10 -------------------
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gobi1972 N'Somniac total posts: 4932 since: Oct 2001	Jun 03, 10 at 1:01am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	quote Angelus i smell bullshit. you are such a liar cause every enemy in the game levels up with you so even if you were level 50 or whatever, the bosses would still slaughter you. Yup, I smell it also. Either that or a user of cheat codes. Cos NO WAY IN HELL can anyone survive in this game at level 40 when the enemies are about the same level as they are. They cannot revive fallen companions, they cannot heal themselves with magic or items, and they cannot increase their stats in anyway. Even at level 40, Squall's hp without junctioning could be around 300+ and high level monsters can hit for 200+ damage for each turn. Even if ya level up GF like Diablo for its No-Encounter ability (which I have NO idea how that could be possible without fighting), it is impossible to fight bossess in later stages. Also, the fellow failed to tell us how he can cure himself from status attacks (since magic and item is not available). Many of the bosses - especially in early stages like the undead boss ya fight in the train (SeeD mission for Riona) attend to hit with status attacks more than physical.
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gobi1972 N'Somniac total posts: 4932 since: Oct 2001	Jun 03, 10 at 1:07am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	by sephiroth_campbell quote the rest only go to a certain level eg elvoret only goes to level 11... xatmo92 only goes to level 10 the president delling only goes to level 12 gerogero goes to level 12 brothers only go to level 75 siefer and edea (disk 1) only go to level 20 and so on.... Now I know ya bullshitting. WHO SAID that they can only go to a certain level only. When I fought Seifer and Edea in CD1, they were above level 20 cos I have scanned them. Either ya played in the low-level or the guy who wrote that walkthrough ya said was referring to had played in low-level. How does one know what level an enemy is? Level 1 - 25 - enemy uses 1st level magic like Blizzard, Fire etc. Level 25 - 50 - enemy uses 2nd level magic like Blizzara, Fira etc. Level 50 - 75 - enemy uses 3rd level magic like Blizaga, Firaga, Curaga etc. Level 75 onwards - many uses forbidden magic like Meteor, Flare etc. By looking at wat magic the enemy uses (or can draw from), ya can guess what level they are in prior to yer own.
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sephiroth_campbell ultra seeker total posts: 1463 since: Mar 2010	Jun 03, 10 at 1:47am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	quote gobi1972 by sephiroth_campbell quote the rest only go to a certain level eg elvoret only goes to level 11... xatmo92 only goes to level 10 the president delling only goes to level 12 gerogero goes to level 12 brothers only go to level 75 siefer and edea (disk 1) only go to level 20 and so on.... Now I know ya bullshitting. WHO SAID that they can only go to a certain level only. When I fought Seifer and Edea in CD1, they were above level 20 cos I have scanned them. Either ya played in the low-level or the guy who wrote that walkthrough ya said was referring to had played in low-level. How does one know what level an enemy is? Level 1 - 25 - enemy uses 1st level magic like Blizzard, Fire etc. Level 25 - 50 - enemy uses 2nd level magic like Blizzara, Fira etc. Level 50 - 75 - enemy uses 3rd level magic like Blizaga, Firaga, Curaga etc. Level 75 onwards - many uses forbidden magic like Meteor, Flare etc. By looking at wat magic the enemy uses (or can draw from), ya can guess what level they are in prior to yer own. oh my...look if you read carefully i got it from the official guide THE GAME MAKERS SAY THEY CAN ONLY GO TO CERTAIN LEVELS also edea and siefer can ONLY get to level 20 NO HIGHER on disk 1 that is the point im making you can do the game with no junctions 'cuz most bosses dont go higher levels thatn the game is progammed to in this instace edea and siefer CANNOT go above level 20 try it for yourself get to about lvl 35-45 and scan them they wil be at level 20! edit heres some proof kind of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AfGhOCQllI right in order to get the lionheart on d1 you need to fight elastiod while in lagunas dream world... but the elastiod has to be over level 30 to get the power generators to get the pulse ammo thus means you party average has to be over level...30 (lemme know if im going wrong...) wich means that siefer himself would be lvl 30+ correct? but then please explain this....how the hell can a level 30+ boss only have 900-1100 hp! you are wrong he can only get to level 20! wich at level 20 he has 1150hp also that magic referance is bullshit you can get wizzard stones from lvl 30 enemies and draw firaga froma lvl 30 bite bug and level does not determine wether they use meteor or not a left hand from vysage level 20 knows meteor.... Edit: Jun 02, 10 -------------------
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gobi1972 N'Somniac total posts: 4932 since: Oct 2001	Jun 03, 10 at 2:32am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	by sephiroth_campbell quote edit heres some proof kind of... What kind of BS is this? In that so-called proof ya submitted, have ya noticed : 1. That Squall have NOT scanned Seifer in mid fight - so yer argument that Seifer can only be around level 20 IS INVALID. 2. Squall's HP is 1716. Like I said before, a level 20 character could only have HP around 300+ (cos each time ya level up, ya get about 10 HP per level and Squall starts at level 2 if not mistaken, at 150 HP). So, it is obvious that the person who made the video junctioned something to increase his HP. 3. In the 2nd battle with Edea, Squall has a full set of abilities like Magic and Item (which he did not have when he was fighting Seifer). So either this is a coax, or someone have taped the battle at two different battle (with the same enemy) or someone playing with cheat codes. 4. And I watch from start to the end, and I still no see any indications of what level Seifer and Edea was in this battle. So ... your proof sucks. Try harder, bub. quote right for one to get the lion heart on disk one every enemy you fight has to be above level 30 to get the pulse ammo k? Er ... No. Ya can get Pulse ammo by playing cards with various ppl in the Garden even before ya start of with Timber mission. The lady in the cafeterias gives Elynole cards frequently. All ya need is Ifrit's Ammo ability and Siren's Card Mod ability and ya can make pulse ammo. Ya don't have to fight any enemy at any level (except maybe Ifrit to obtain him). quote but still he takes off 800 and kills siefer in 1 hit! there you have it im sure a level 30 siefer would not have 800 hp! Only thing I can be sure here is that ya a poor bullshitter. quote and level does not determine wether they use meteor or not a vysage level 20 knows meteor...well the lefty anyway... And how do ya access Timber area in CD1 when there's a truck blocking the road leading into the area?
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sephiroth_campbell ultra seeker total posts: 1463 since: Mar 2010	Jun 03, 10 at 2:49am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	you can fight vysage outside timber....it is really easy too when you get the train to east station...you walk back! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFkEtOxoEWE look in the description.... that explains it on d2 she hits a max level of 32 also isnt it funny how every single guide says edea at the end of disk 1 edea has 7000 hp....really wierd that for an enemy that everyone fights....wow we must all be fighting at the exact same level!!! btw squall starts off at level 7 with 350 hp.... -------------------
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gobi1972 N'Somniac total posts: 4932 since: Oct 2001	Jun 03, 10 at 3:03am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	quote sephiroth_campbell you can fight vysage outside timber....it is really easy too when you get the train to east station...you walk back! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFkEtOxoEWE look in the description.... that explains it on d2 she hits a max level of 32 also isnt it funny how every single guide says edea at the end of disk 1 edea has 7000 hp....really wierd that for an enemy that everyone fights....wow we must all be fighting at the exact same level!!! btw squall starts off at level 7 with 350 hp.... Great ... more and more bullsh!t. I have not received a single evidents of what this guy talking about since he started to BS here. Look, IF ya can proof anything, then post something. Otherwise, stop posting yer daydreams on me. PS : Do not PM me for no apparent reasons. TQ
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sephiroth_campbell ultra seeker total posts: 1463 since: Mar 2010	Jun 03, 10 at 3:07am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	quote gobi1972 quote sephiroth_campbell you can fight vysage outside timber....it is really easy too when you get the train to east station...you walk back! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFkEtOxoEWE look in the description.... that explains it on d2 she hits a max level of 32 also isnt it funny how every single guide says edea at the end of disk 1 edea has 7000 hp....really wierd that for an enemy that everyone fights....wow we must all be fighting at the exact same level!!! btw squall starts off at level 7 with 350 hp.... Great ... more and more bullsh!t. I have not received a single evidents of what this guy talking about since he started to BS here. Look, IF ya can proof anything, then post something. Otherwise, stop posting yer daydreams on me. PS : Do not PM me for no apparent reasons. TQ more and more bullshit i have just made a valid point every single guide i know an have found on the internet says edea has 7000 hp ok how can she at level 100? well your simlying that she can hit that level.....so lemme guess the whole worlds wrong and your right... look do me a favour and go and look ata ANY guide and it will prove you wrong if your too arrogant to look at a guide ill take photos of mine and post em.... -------------------
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gobi1972 N'Somniac total posts: 4932 since: Oct 2001	Jun 03, 10 at 3:30am ^ re: Beating the game without any junctions
	quote sephiroth_campbell more and more bullshit i have just made a valid point every single guide i know an have found on the internet says edea has 7000 hp ok how can she at level 100? well your simlying that she can hit that level.....so lemme guess the whole worlds wrong and your right... look do me a favour and go and look ata ANY guide and it will prove you wrong if your too arrogant to look at a guide ill take photos of mine and post em.... Have any of these "guides" explains to ya why Edea end up being around level 20+ and with HP around 1,000 when she joins yer party in CD3, smarta$$?
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