Black metal vs nu metal.

Mmk... new thread if bl3nd3r lets it stay open. No flaming,no getting mad at other people for there points, and come up with post's that have some half assed thought into it. Black metal is way above nu metal for many reasons. I find black metal to be very technical,original and awesome music. It has parts in it that takes nothing but pure talent to do. Nu metal is...well all the bands are nu metal now and nothing is changing. How many nu metal bands do you see that sound the same pretty much? Not like robots,but in a nut shell its the same now days. I think that most numetal bands are also in it for the money. bl3nd3r close the thread if you dont think it should be here...just wanted to make a thread for eveyrone to express what they think.

There are only a few original nu-metal/rap core bands I can think of...

Slipknot

Rage against the Machine

In Flames (well, new stuff anyway)

KoRn

Seriously that's it. The rest all sound the same to me. I still like Linkin Park but I'm hoping they're going to break from the nu metal mould and do something a little more constructive.

I'm pretty sure you all already knew what my response to this thread would be. Black metal excels in every way above nu metal, without a question. That isn't even a matter of opinion; if you know anything about what musical talent or excellent musical composition is, you'd agree with me. I've backed this up with facts in way too many threads, and I'm not going to bother to repeat myself again unless someone wants to disagree with me. That is, if this thread remains open.

This message was edited by Fallen Hero on Jun 22 2004.

i wouldnt say rage against the machine are nu metal at all. more like rap metal. actually, im not a fan of either black metal or nu metal but i would probably say black metal is better because i personally think nu metal is just music for kids who want to think they are into proper rock and who follow fred durst's lead for wearing stupid hats the wrong way round. urgh, tell me to shut up.

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I don't even understand what Nu Metal is, it seems to be as broad as a catagory as "Alternative". Personaly, I'm not a big fan of Black metal. The guitar riffs, drums, and bass are very technical and impressive, but once the vocals start.... that's where I'm turned off at. The lyrics (most of the time) are very inteligent and thought out, but growling, screaming, and whatever else they do in the mic is just ruins the feel or melody, at least to me.

So... if Rage Against The Machine is considered Nu Metal, I'd prefer them over most Black Metal bands, at least from what I've heard anyways. Although Bleak by Opeth is pretty damned good near the end and at the acoustic part...

I am a big fan of black metal, but I can totally understand the vocals thing. When I first heard black metal, I HAAAAAATED it! Because of the vocals I thought it was by far the worst metal ever. But I after giving black metal a chance a few more times, I grew to understand and enjoy the vocals. Because even the vocals in black metal are more difficult to do. Singing black metal is very painful.

And as for lyrics, there are black metal bands that do have some pointless stupid lyrics that don't mean anything, but then some bands like Cradle of Filth have made some of the most poetic and intelligent(vocabulary and grammar wise) lyrics ever written.

Black metal is not something for everyone IMO. And it takes getting use to. Like I said, I use to hate black metal, and now I'm a fan of it. Well, I'm mainly a fan of Christian black metal, but I do like and appreciate regular black metal.

I was just talking to Fallen Hero about this on AIM, and while I like a lot of black metal, I like a lot of stuff that's considered "nu metal" a bit more, though I am a big fan of anything metal. Hard to say, I still think AC/DC is better than both...

Heh i also at the beginning didnt like black metal too much. At the time i was just looking around for new music i hadnt heard b4 and came across cradle of filth, so i downloaded the music video to Her ghost in the fog and thought dani's vocals were terrible and sounded like a screaming x-mas elf, lol. But then i went to No time to cry which was a bit easier to understand the lyrics and the cover got me hooked onto other things and it all went from there. Now COF is my fave band and Her ghost in the fog is one of my fave songs, haha But ANYWAY I believe black metal beats nu-metal hands down. All the instruments, guitars, drums, bass is all faster and more complex as well as very well put together than nu-metal. The lyrics are on an entire different level and the vocals are far more complex and well i do prefer them now also, just need to give it some more time perhaps,

Dude, why did my post get deleted? I'm a fan of Cradle of Filth and I was just joking around. I was trying to help lighten things up a little to help prevent flaming. God forbid we should have some humor....

[Edit: OK, sorry for sounding kinda mad. And that's pathetic that they find that offensive. I think Dani personally would have found it funny. Dani is a very humorous guy, not the dark freak everyone expects him to be.]

(_+bl3nd3r+_)says: Even if it was meant for humor... I know some people might be offended by it. Believe it or not, I got a PM from someone saying that they where offended by it. I did too find it rather funny but oh well, ya can't make everyone laugh.

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