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Log in to remove this sponsored message --------------- Making a Moveset 1) Play by your stats - You want to utilize your stats as well as possible. Using Ice Beam on a Gyarados is a waste, simply because his SpAtk is so low that it won't even OHKO a Rhydon (common mistake). That means it sucks. Now look at Slaking's attack. It's awesome. This means that you should try your best to fit in at least one Physical Attack into any of its movesets. 2) Don't use more than one attack of the same type - Don't use Fire Blast and Flamethrower in the same moveset. Ever. They nullify each other in that using one means neglecting another, essentially leaving you with three attacks. That's not cool. But Mud-Slap and Earthquake doesn't count. Why? Because Mud-Slap is an annoyance move, not an attack. 3) Play by role - If your Delcatty is your main attacker, something is wrong. If it's your supporter, don't give it a Curser set. If it's your trapper, don't give it Pursuit. Don't use moves that conflict with each other like Rain Dance and Sunny Day on the same team. Surf/Earthquake is a common combo that points out the redundancy of it. Surf covers three types, two of which Earthquake already does. Not too cool. (I don't think you can get Pursuit in R/S but then I can also use this for future games). 4) Keep in mind type coverage and weaknesses - Surf and Earthquake cover very few types for all of your moves, six, and have many shared weaknesses. That means Surf and Earthquake probably aren't the best two attacks only. But then, you want to cover your weaknesses at the same time. This is when Earthquake/Surf becomes useful. Gyarados has a four times Electric weakness and can dish out a two hit knockout on any Electric type with Earthquake. That's awesome. Due to this your main weakness it gone. 5) Thunder Wave 0wnz - It just does. Any status infliction attack with 100% accuracy rules. Spore, Thunder Wave, Confuse Ray, and Attract all make well for this. Pairing these inflictions together is a common strategy for annoyers. 6) As a general rule, don't use those "Super Moves" - Normally you should avoid attacks like Thunder. They have high power but are usually unreliable. Stick to Thunderbolt in most cases. When dealing with low SpAtk Pokemon. NEVER use Blizzard. Hyper Beam (except for on a Slaking). Flamethrower > Fire Blast Ice Beam > Blizzard Thunderbolt > Thunder Surf > Hydro Pump 7) Items attached - Usually it's Chesto Berry for Resters, and Leftovers for pretty much anything else (however, try to mix them up a bit, do not use Charcoal or similar items, they suck). 8) Pokemon like Gyarados shouldn't rely on Sp. Attacks. Neither should Alakazam use Physical Attacks. They have high stats on Attack and Sp. Attack respectively and that is what you should build your movesets on, because they have strengths on certain statistics for a reason. (That means Pokemon like Rhydon have good Attack, and can learn all three elemental beams but can't use them, so don't use those Sp. Attacks, in other words, build your Pokemon's movesets(If you don't like ours) based on their: 1. Stats 2. Abilities 3. Strengths 4. Weaknessess In that order. ---------------------- Making a Team How do you make a team? Well, there are many different ways. Let's start with the simplest way - type wise. Typewise, your team should represent as many different strengths as possible and as few shared weaknesses as possible. This doesn't mean that you can't have an Absol and Cacturne on the same team - quite the contrary. Just to counter the 2x Fighting and 3x Bug weaknesses, you could put in Skarmory. Cacturne has many different other weaknesses - Fire, Flying, and Ice (probably missed a few though). To counter the Fire weakness, you could put Snadstorm on Cacturne to slow them down and Mirror Coat on Absol (true this is not perfect, but not bad). However also Skarmory is weak to Fire, so this may be a problem, so throw in Swampert with Surf and Fire is no problem. Water type attacks are almost always on Water type Pokemon, so an electric Pokemon would help there. Grass is easily countered by Skarmory. Steel, an uncommon attack type, is almost never used except on Metagross (pseudo-legendary, so not a lot of people would use it). A Fire type, Torkoal, easily beats him. Skarmory's Fire and Electric weaknesses can be stopped by Torkoal's ability to take Special attacks. So already from this we have neutralised Psychic, Bug, Ice, Grass, Water, Flying, Ghost, Steel, Ground, Rock, Poison and Fire types. We still need to counter Dark, Fighting and Normal types. This is just from picking Absol, Cacturne, Skarmory, Swampert, Torkoal and an Unnamed Electric Pokemon. Using the standard Slaking all the teams weaknesses are destroyed. Now let's get to another way to approach it - By Role The standard Pokemon battling team uses this. What is the standard team? Well, it has roles - ~ Annoyer ~ Baton Passer ~ Spiker ~ Trapper ~ Heal Beller ~ SpAtk-er ~ PhysAtk-er ~ Tank ~ Pseudo-Passer ~ Stat-upper ~ Hazer ~ Pseudo-Hazer ~ Supporter ~ Common Killer To create a team by role, you must know the basic roles of a team. Way One: 1) Opener - Usually a Spiker or annoyer, the Opener is meant to give your team a good start. 2) Hazer - Able to come in the form of Haze or Roar/Whirlwind, the Hazer is essential on your team to prevent from Absol sweeps or Breloom destruction. 3) Attacker - The Attacker does immense damage to the opponent. Usually it includes powerful STAB attacks to defeat the enemy more easily with. 4) Heal Beller - A Pokemon with Heal Bell and a recovery move. A Delcatty is a common Heal Beller. 5) Cleaner - A Pokemon that will finish off a Pokemon that has just given you a pounding. A Pokemon with high speed can do this. 6) Sweeper - It has to plow through many Pokemon, and is expendable to a certain degree. Usually it has high Speed and/or Attack/SpAtk. Way Two: Baton Passer - A Pokemon w/Baton Pass. It also has BP'able moves - stat ups. Mean Look, Swords Dance, Meditate, Barrier, Acid Armor, Double Team, Agility, Amnesia, Perish Song, and Growth are BP'able moves. It powers up your team. Pseudo-Passer - A Pokemon w/Reflect, Light Screen, and/or Safeguard. These attacks can be passed onto your other Pokemon without Baton Pass, so they come in very handy. They spare Rests/Safeguards. Supporter - The Circle gets bigger. It can be a pseudo-passer, a Baton Passer, a filler, or anything - It fills in a random role that your team is missing and must be used if you have only five Pokemon. Annoyer - A Pokemon that, well, annoys. It stalls while slowly extracting damage. Little by little with Toxic, Sandstorm, Pseudo-Haze/ Spikes, Encore, Leech Seed, Sleep, Paralysis, Attract, Confusion, Flinch, Protect, and sometimes even more. Trapper - A Pokemon with Whirlpool/Clamp/Mean Look. It forces the Pokemon to stay in and then slowly or quickly depletes its health. Sometimes it's combined with Toxic or Baton Pass. Usually you see it with Perish Song. Spiker - A Pokemon with Spikes. It lays down the Spikes and does whatever other mission it's expected to do. Works awesome with a Pseudo-Hazer with good attacks. Heal Beller - A Pokemon with Heal Bell. Because there are only four, it's hard to have an unpredictable Heal Beller. Hazer - A Pokemon with Haze. Usually this requires good staying power because you might get pounded in the process. Usually it has Rest to ensure its stay. Pseudo-Hazer - A Pokemon with Roar, Whirlwind, Perish Song, or some sort of other attack that forces a switch. This is to stop Cursers, Baton Passing chains, and the like. Stat Upper - A Pokemon that uses stat-upping attacks. Swords Dance, Agility, and stuff are all here. Tank - A Pokemon that's extremely hard to take out. Sometimes they use stat ups to become even stronger. SpAtk-er - A Pokemon with all or mostly SpAtks. They sweep through most Pokemon with relative ease. PhysAtk-er - A Pokemon with all or mostly Physical attacks. They're pretty much the same as SpAtk-ers except they have Physical moves. Common Killer - A Pokemon that is designed to kill the Pokemon that it's most likely to be up against. They're much like sweepers except with custom attacks. ---------------------- Anilones' Team: Dusclops w/Leftovers  Ability: Levitate(Ground moves fail) Nature: Careful (+Sp. Defense, -Sp. Attack) -Mean Look -Toxic -Confuse Ray -Night Shade My Starter and annoyer, Dusclops' purpose is to make a good start by taking out a few Pokemon (if I'm lucky), the Mean Look, Toxic combination is deadly in every form, but with Confuse Ray also the enemy is in a lot of trouble. I also use Night Shade as it's attack is so low that this is the only way to provide 100 damage. Torkoal w/Chesto Berry  Ability: White Smoke(Prevents ability reduction) Nature: Quiet (+Sp. Attack, -Speed) -Amnesia -Iron Defense -Rest -Flamethrower The best tank in the game (in my opinion). Already starts with a massive defense and special defense, and with Amnesia, Iron Defense, White Smoke ability and Chesto Rest Torkoal becomes very hard to take out. Flamethrower is there just for STAB. Shiftry w/Miracle Seed  Ability: Chlorophyll(When Sunny, SPEED doubles) Nature: Sassy (+Sp. Defense, -Speed) -Sunny Day -Synthesis -Solarbeam -Explosion This is where people start making complaints about myself being a hypocrite. Firstly I have given my Shiftry a Miracle Seed simply as Solarbeam is it's only 'real' attack. Apart from that it's moveset is pretty self explanatory, with Sunny Day boosting all moves (except Explosion) and boosting it's ability. Shiftry is here to stall them enemy, using Sunnybeam and Synthesis, and if I get into trouble I can take out the opponent with me using Explosion. Lanturn w/Petaya Berry  Ability: Volt Absorb(Turns electricity into HP) Nature: Modest (+Sp. Attack, -Attack) -Thunder -Surf -Rain Dance -Ice Beam Yes, I have two conflicting attacks on my team, Rain Dance and Sunny Day (this is where my team falls down), but I believe that it has enough reason. Lanturn is my main Special Attacker, as it can take out pretty much anything using Rain Dance. Breloom w/Starf Berry  Ability: Effect Spore(Spores left on contact) Nature: Adamant (+Attack, -Sp. Attack) -Focus Punch -Spore -Leech Seed -Bulk Up Breloom's purpose is of Physical Attacker, and it does it perfectly. Using Spore Punch nothing can take many hits. No need really for explanation. Slaking w/Liechi Berry  Ability: Truant(Moves only once in 2 turns) Nature: Adamant (+Attack, -Sp. Attack) -Slack Off -Hyper Beam -Earthquake -Shadow Ball Slaking is my sweeper, knowing how everyone knows about sweepers and Slaking no further explanation is required. ----- My(db_skate's) Team: Crobat w/Brightpowder  Ability: Inner Focus (Prevents flinching.) Nature: Jolly (Speed+, Sp.Attack-) -Toxic -Mean Look -Confuse Ray -Fly My starting annoyer. Poison with Toxic, Confuse them, trap them with Mean Look and use Fly to stall and do more damage. Medicham w/Choice Band  Ability: Pure Power (Doubles Attack stat in battle.) Nature: Adamant (Attack, Sp.Attack-) -Brick Break -Shadow Ball -Return -Rock Slide My Physical Attacker. With Pure Power, his attack equals 480 in battle, and with Choice Band boosting the attack I choose, Medicham blows through many teams. Alakazam w/Petaya Berry  Ability: Synchronize (Passes status problems onto opponent.) Nature: Modest (Sp.Attack+, Attack-) -Calm Mind -Psychic -Shock Wave -Ice Punch My starting special sweeper. Covers many types, and with 405 sp.attack, it takes them out pretty quick. Gorebyss w/Leftovers  Ability: Swift Swim (Raises Speed in Rain.) Nature: Bold (Defense+, Attack-) -Amnesia -Iron Defense -Baton Pass -Water Pulse Great Baton Passer. It helps out my Alakazam's low defense. And the other low defenses in my team. Pikachu w/Light Ball  Ability: Static (Paralyze foe on contact.) Nature: Modest (Sp.Attack+, Attack-) -Rain Dance -Surf -Charge -Thunder THE most powerful non-legendary special sweeper with 436 sp.attack while holding Light Ball. His defenses are only around 100, which brings him down ALOT. That's why he won't normally come out without being BPed by Gorebyss. Slaking w/Leichi Berry Ability: Traunt (Can't attack consecutively.) Nature: Adamant (Attack+, Sp.Attack-) -Hyper Beam -Shadow Ball -Earthquake -Slack Off The most powerful base attack in the world of pokemon, and he's not legendary. I recommend that everyone uses one. Period. --------------- Well I hoped it helped (as before thanks to serebii.net, Squall Leonheart, Octarine Skye, Anilones and GameFAQs board for information). This message was edited by db_skate on Dec 18 2004. | |
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I'm not nearly finished with this, but I'll keep working on it. Check back every now and then.
  VENASAUR-Sunny Day -Solarbeam -Synthesis -Leech Seed Basic sunny day moveset. Thanks to serebii.net: VENASUAR@Salac Berry -Leech Seed -Attract -Toxic -Magical Leaf Annoyer moveset.  CHARIZARD-Heat Wave/Flamethrower -Aerial Ace -Earthquake/Rock Slide -Dragon Dance Mixed sweeper, Dragon Dance to boost Aerial Ace and Earthquake/Rock Slide. Thanks to serebii.net: CHARIZARD@Petaya Berry -Dragon Claw -Flamethrower -Sunny Day -Earthquake Special Sweeper with.... Earthquake. o_0 Thanks to serebii.net:  BLASTOISE@Leftovers-Counter -Mirror Coat -Surf -Ice Beam Counter and Mirror Coat to reflect attacks. Surf for STAB and Ice Beam to fill.  BUTTERFREE-Toxic -Supersonic -Silver Wind -Double Team/Giga Drain Annoyer. I don't really like Giga Drain because of only 8 max PP, but use it if you must. Thanks to serebii.net: BUTTERFREE@Salac Berry -Sunny Day -Solarbeam -Psychic -HP Fire Sunny Day puts it at risk, but that just adds to the fun. Thanks to serebii.net:  BEEDRILL@Leichi Berry OR Salac Berry-Swords Dance -Brick Break -Sludge Bomb -Return Physical Sweeper. Swords Dance and sweep away. Thanks to serebii.net:  PIDGEOT@Leftovers-Toxic -Whirlwind -Featherdance/Substitute -Aerial Ace It sucks that Pidgeot has such low stats. He's so cool, oh well.  RATICATE-Swords Dance -Endeavor/Super Fang/Return -Shadow Ball -Iron Tail Not that great. But it works with 322 max speed.  FEAROW-Agility -Return -Drill Peck/Aerial Ace -Steel Wing It's better than Pidgeot. I'll give it that.  ARBOK-Stockpile -Swallow -Toxic/Poison Fang -Double Team Annoyer. PIKACHU@Light Ball-Rain Dance -Surf -Charge -Thunder Light Ball doubles Pikachu's sp.attack, which means a max of 436 special attack power! That's enough to rival Mewtwo's 450 sp.attack! BTW, if you don't have Pokemon BOX, then you can't get Surf, don't even bother with this moveset. HP Water just doesn't cut it. Thanks to Anilones:  RAICHU-Thunderbolt -Sweet Kiss -Thunder Wave -Attract Great Annoyer. Thanks to Squall_Leonheart: RAICHU@Mystic Water -Rain Dance -Thunder -Surf/HP Water -Thunder Wave If you don't have Pokemon BOX, then just use Hidden power water. Thanks to serebii.net:  SANDSLASH@Brightpowder-Sand Storm -Toxic -Substitute -Earthquake This is serebii's moveset for Sandshrew, but it works even better on Sandslash!  NIDOQUEEN-Sludge Bomb -Earthquake -Toxic -Rock Slide/Brick Break I recommend Nidoking...  NIDOKING@Choice Band-Sludge Bomb -Earthquake -Megahorn -Body Slam/Shadow Ball A perfect candidate for a Choice set. I had to do it. Thanks to serebii.net: NIDOKING@Salac Berry -Megahorn -Shadow Ball -Body Slam -Earthquake Almost the same as mine, without the choice band.  CLEFABLE@Chesto Berry-Belly Drum -Rest -Hyper Beam -Metronome Belly Drum to max attack power, rest to fill health back up. I normally wouldn't recommend Hyper Beam on any pokemon except Slaking, but with STAB and Belly Drum, I couldn't resist. This whole set works very well, might I add. Thanks to Anilones:  NINETALES-Attract -Will-O-Wisp -Flamethrower -Fire Spin/Confuse Ray Another Annoyer ¬_¬ Fire Spin as long as you burn them first round. Thanks to serebii.net: NINETALES@Leftovers -Flamethrower -Confuse Ray -Fire Spin -Toxic I like this one better because Will-O-Wisp reduces the opponent's attack which ruins confusion's effect. Thanks to Anilones:  WIGGLYTUFF-Attract -Body Slam -Rest -Sweet Kiss Annoyer. Maybe hold Chesto Berry for Rest. CROBAT-Toxic -Confuse Ray -Mean Look -Fly Great annoyer. I recommend it because I use it in my team.  Thanks to serebii.net: CROBAT@Choice Band -Shadow Ball -Sludge Bomb -Aerial Ace -HP Ground/Return/Steel Wing Same concept as Nidoking and my Medicham. This one works great because of Crobat's high speed. Thanks to Anilones:  VILEPLUME-Razor Leaf -Toxic -Sludge Bomb -Aroma Therapy Mixed Attacker. Thanks to Anilones: VILEPLUME -Giga Drain -Toxic -Ingrain -Moonlight Annoyer/HP Gainer. Thanks to Squall_Leonheart: VILEPLUME@Leftovers -Aromatherapy -Giga Drain -Moonlight/Synthesis -Reflect/Light Screen/Rest(with chesto berry)/Toxic/Sludge Bomb/Sunny Day Fantastic Aromatherapist. The last choice is really up to you.(Man, 6 choices?!?!?!?!?) Be careful if you chose Sunny day though, but it can be rewarding if Moonlight/Synthesis recovers all your HP. Thanks to serebii.net:  PARASECT@Leftovers-Light Screen -Spore -Aromatherapy -HP Bug Not great, but it learns Spore which helps out a lot!  VENOMOTH-Signal Beam -Sludge Bomb -Psychic -Giga Drain You could use Choice Band with it if you wanted to. It would work with it's high speed.  DUGTRIO@Choice Band-Earthquake -Rock Slide/Ancientpower -Sludge Bomb/Aerial Ace -Return/Slash The Choice Band comes up a lot huh? But this guy can get up to 372 speed! Not shabby for something that lives underground. Thanks to serebii.net:  PERSIAN@Leftovers OR Brightpowder-Toxic -Protect -Attract -Charm Actually a good annoyer. Thanks to serebii.net:  GOLDUCK@Salac Berry-Calm Mind -Ice Beam -Surf -Psychic The same moveset I would use. A Petaya Berry can also be used instead of the Salac. Thanks to Squall_Leonheart: GOLDUCK@Leftovers OR Chesto Berry -Calm Mind -Rest -Psychic -Ice Beam/Surf I'm not sure if I like this one, but it's good enough I guess. Thanks to serebii.net:  PRIMEAPE@Salac Berry OR Leichi Berry-Bulk Up -Cross Chop -Rock Slide -Earthquake Great physical sweeper. You could replace Bulk Up for Return or another physical attack and let him hold a Choice Band if you wanted a Choice set. Thanks to serebii.net:  ARCANINE@Leftovers-Overheat -Extremespeed -HP Ground -Howl Although I can see the reasoning behind Overheat, the move still sucks. Fire Blast can serve the same purpose although Flamethrower is a better choice.  POLIWRATH@Chesto Berry-Belly Drum -Rest -Brick Break -Earthquake Belly Drum, Rest to heal, and sweep away. Thanks to serebii.net: POLIWRATH@Salac Berry -Swords Dance -Brick Break -Earthquake -HP Rock/Return Physical Sweeper.  ALAKAZAM-Calm Mind -Psychic -Shock Wave/Recover -Ice Punch This is the one I use. I use Shock Wave instead of Recover because with his low defenses and HP, Recover isn't so useful. Thanks to Anilones: ALAKAZAM@Choice Band -Trick -Protect -Torment -Psychic Trick the band to the opponent, torment, then protect during the opponents attack turn. Sure, they can swap out, but with this, you can stop batton passers for good or non attack pokemon. Thanks to Anilones:  MACHAMP-Bulk Up -Cross Chop -Foresight -Facade This should be able to take out most pokemon, except maybe flying. Ghost types will fall to this thanks to foresight, with facade for dishing out the hurt when your afflicted with a status aliment (guts + facade = DAMAGE!). You can also replace Foresight with Rock Slide to take out Flying types instead of Ghosts. Thanks to serebii.net: MACHAMP@Leichi Berry -Focus Punch -Substitute -Earthquake -Rock Slide The Substitute Punch doesn't work all the time, be aware. That Substitute may break before you use it.  VICTREEBELL-Ingrain -Magical Leaf -Sludge Bomb -Slam/Return Since it can't learn Leech Seed, Ingrain will have to do. A very good mixed sweeper in my honest opinion. Thanks to serebii.net: VICTREEBELL@Salac Berry -Sunny Day -Solarbeam -HP Fire/Growth -Synthesis This is okay, although it has a lot of attack power, which I try to emphasize on. Thanks to Anilones:  TENTACRUEL-Wrap -Mirror Coat -Confuse Ray -Surf Basic Trapper. Thanks to Squall_Leonheart: TENTACRUEL@Chesto Berry -Surf -Confuse Ray -Barrier -Rest Confuse Ray for some protection while setting up Barrier, and Barrier for more defense, and after that, both its defensive stats will be over 300. Rest for recovery, and you can attack with Surf. (Note that he didn't use Mirror Coat because, its Sp. Defense is so high) Thanks to Anilones:  GOLEM-Defense Curl -Rollout -Double Team -Explosion High defense and evasion make it hard to take out. Thanks to Squall_Leonheart: GOLEM@Shell Bell (Rock Head ability) -Double Edge -Rock Slide -Earthquake -Explosion Not much to explain, except that now you can afford to use Double Edge because of its Rock Head ability. Rock Slide and Earthquake for STAB. Explosion when stuck. You may think this moveset is horribly unbalanced because it only contains offensive moves, but it really works, trust me on this one. Thanks to serebii.net: GOLEM@Choice Band -Earthquake -Rock Slide -Focus Punch -Explosion I don't know how they expected Focus Punch to work Go with the one that S_L made a lot better.  RAPIDASH-Sunny Day -Solarbeam -Flamethrower -Agility/Rest With Flamethrower, Sunny Beamer totally works too bad it doesn't have Synthesis. RAPIDASH -Agility -Double Kick/Bounce -Iron Tail -Return This fits its stats more. But the Sunny Beamer probably works better.  SLOWBRO-Amnesia -Psychic -Surf -Ice Beam Amnesia to boost special defense, its defense doesn't need any help, and the rest are for sweeping, although its not that fast, that's why you boost your defenses. Thanks to Anilones:  MAGNETON-Rain Dance -HP Water -Thunder -Thunder Wave Ensure you get HP Water, then you can take down everything. But I prefer Lanturn.  FARFETCH'D-Curse -Featherdance -Foresight -Aerial Ace Not the best. Made to protect itself basically.  DODRIO-Agility -Return/Endeavor -Drill Peck/Aerial Ace -Steel Wing Sweeper. Not a bad one either. Thanks to serebii.net:  DEWGONG-Encore -Ice Beam -Substitute -Toxic Its only good stat is Special defense on Dewgong.. Basically an annoyer set. This message was edited by db_skate on Dec 19 2004. | |
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lol its more an annoyer than a sweeper
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No, this is the special sweeper set I recommended:
ALAKAZAM -Calm Mind -Psychic -Shock Wave/Recover -Ice Punch There's nothing annoying about that moveset. The Trick Band moveset is the more "annoying" one. But I still recommend the above mentioned sweeper set. ------------------- werd.
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Can someone reccomend a good moveset for Mew? I just got mine at Level 7, and all it knows is Pound.
 Since it's my favorite Pokemon, I want it to completely own as much as possible. -------------------  Long Lost|The world is a roller coaster, and I'm not strapped in. | |
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Dec 21, 04 at 1:27am ^
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Let me get one thing straight. You gave an ALAKAZAM, the smartest and most powerful psychic type that is non-legendary..., SHOCK WAVE!? Try thunderpunch. Works wonders and is WAAAAAAAAY better then that petty "Shock wave" does.
Otherwise, not bad. I disagree with somethings here and there, and I prefer anilone's sets to yours. Replacing persian's charm with return is prefered in this case. And, I'll say it again, SHOCK WAVE IS AWFUL. Kay? Even on a RAICHU its bad. Oh yeah, and I think HP water is good on pikachu's al-mighty 436 special attack power. It doesn't need stab, seeing as how rain dance boosts it to 115 base power.  ------------------- Back from neoseeker, but just barely... Oh my god The Llama Song! | |
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Dec 23, 04 at 3:33pm ^
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what would be a good moveset for gengar? i was thinking of puting 1:shadow ball 2:thunder bolt 3
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quote Dscizor25NEVER give gengar physical moves!!! Bad bad bad! Shame on you! As for a moveset... Gengar@Lum berry/Leftovers Nature(special sweeper): Modest EVs(Special sweeper): 252 speed. 252 special attack. 6 HP. Nature(annoyer): Bold. EVs(annoyer): 252 defense, 125 special defense, 125 HP. Psychic/Double team Thunderbolt/Toxic HP *DARK*/Night shade Giga drain Basicly, you could go the annoyer route with double team and toxic. OR you could go the special sweeper route. Pick the left side for special sweeper, pick the right side for annoyer. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT use a combination of the two. Giga drain works great on both sets though. ------------------- Back from neoseeker, but just barely... Oh my god The Llama Song! | |
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