GTA-Killer

I'm all for it. It gives compitition in these crime simulation videogames, making these games even better with companies trying to pull out all the stops.

I'd have to agree with the Chiroman on this one. GTA is an amazing game, and better than the rest of the games in this genre.

A Halo-killer? Does such a thing exist?? Halo was an outstanding game, and that's an understatement. And the only thing in my opinion that will be able to rival Halo 2 is DOOM III. But you see? It will take a legendary game name to match up to Halo 2. Granted, without DOOM, there would probably be no Halo at all. But I don't think DOOM III will be a Halo 2 killer. It will just be the only thing on the market (my own opinion, not fact) able to rival it.

So unless I see it, there is no such thing as a GTA or Halo 1/2 killer.

I doubt there will be any game ever that could compare with GTA. The only way one would come close is to copy everything in the game and redo it. But that doesn't matter because GTA rocks.

Yeah I agree with you DBZ and Bizzy about competition being a great thing for any genre. Like I remember Mario games and how they reinvented the whole concept of Platformers even before there was even a name to that genre way back in the SNES days. Also remember that Doom was based on the OLD Castle Wolfenstein (and Spear of Destiny) game engines. And after Doom there was a whole slew of First person shooters that copied, added to and reinvented the genre to improve the ideas, just as there were Platformers that surpassed Mario & Luigi games.

The key is in technological advances as well as Programmers and developers becoming more Saavy in their craft.

I also agree with Deathman that Doom III will compete with Halo I and probably II because they sort of almost have to. Do I think that Doom III will be better? Well maybe better than Halo because they have had almost THREE years of greater familiarity with the XBox than the original Halo programmers did. I think that it will be a VERY close battle between Halo II and Doom III and will likely come down more to personal preference than one game being truly better than the other. Lets face it, Doom has its own legacy to live up to as well as Halo's raising the bar of late.

As for GTA games, I think that sooner or later the concept will be improved upon. However, the BIGGEST problem with all the people that are making GTA knockoff's is that they are just NOT giving us ANYTHING so far that either reinvents, adds to or even impoves the concept that Rockstar/Take2 have invented.

I mean am I the only one that seems to notice that all of the GREATEST elements of GTA III and Vice City are conspicuously absent from the knockoff's which have ALL fallen short of the mark by a pretty wide margin? And am I the only one who feels like SCREAMING at all these NIMROD R&D people over at the respective gaming company that IMPROVED GRAPHICS aren't worth a hill of beans when you have to SUBTRACT from the gameplay experience to do it?

Sheesh! Look at The Getaway, The Simpsons: Hit & Run, True Crime, Mafia, and on and on and on. notice that each one improves ONE or two elements over GTA and in literally EVERYTHING ELSE falls completely short? For instance, The Getaway and True Crime boast better graphics. True Crime has a better targetting system (well according to the reviewers NOT according to me).

Remember the promise about London and LA in both of these games being LARGER by FAR than Liberty or Vice? Well so what? I mean yeah they got that right but I have absolutely no desire to explore these cities in the respective games. Why? Well because they are SO INSANELY large and repetitive that getting to know them would take years of STUDY not gameplay! in other words, Vice City and Liberty City are large enough to be VERY interesting but SMALL enough to be friendly and WORTH getting to know! I know for me, I feel like VC and Liberty are like my second and third homes! they are fun to drive around in, just as the places I grew up in are fun to drive around in. They are like HOME. I get so lost in London and LA (True Crime and The Getaway) that exploring is just unwieldy and NO FUN.

And have you noticed also that whenever the developers are questioned near the release dates of these alleged GTA Killers that they frankly say that there is NO WAY they can give the DEPTH, Non linearity, and INSANELY diverse gameplay of GTA because...uh....um they spent too much time and System resources on Graphics, Cinematics and City size? ROFLMAO!! You know who will surpass Rockstar's GTA concept? The first company to realize that as long as they spend the majority of their efforts on Graphics and that kind of thing, they will NEVER beat GTA because those things are just NOT what makes GTA great and in fact THOSE ELEMENTS are actually lagging behind all of the other games of this genre, and PURPOSEFULLY SO!!! because Rockstar realized that it is NOT the graphics that immerses one in a game like GTA but in the fact that the game FEELS MORE REAL rather than (YUCK) just LOOKING more real!

As long as game developers REFUSE to really see what it is that makes GTA so amazing there will literally be NO EQUALS. Because Game companies seem to be trying to ram their Show off graphics and SELF INDULGENT game programming down our collective throats in lieu of studying the GTA formula and learning from that!

And I REALLY believe that The Driver is going to be JUST LIKE the rest of the games in that it will have the most INSANE graphics and be a GREAT game in its own right and it will also MISS the real elements that make GTA what it is. I could be wrong and I hope I am but I doubt it. You can tell by the way the game is being hyped already that this game will be linear, highly graphics intensive, have a GREAT story, acting and amazing cut scenes and just NOT give us the real magic of what GTA does.

I believe that Driver 3 or DRIV3R will be better than any GTA. A lot of people argue that GTA has the best gameplay. We won't know until they come out but we already know a few things.

Driver 3 looks way better than any GTA. I think most of you would agree.

I think Driver has better cities. GTA 3 and GTA: Vice City were not designed that well. The buildings were bland and it didn't feel like a real city.

Again people will say that gameplay is the most important. It is important but so is just about everything else. I prefer games that have good gameplay, graphics, stories, design, and so on. Judging by past games, GTA does not accel in every category.


My conclusion: I think that Driver 3 will be better than GTA.

quote ChiroVette

Sheesh! Look at The Getaway, The Simpsons: Hit & Run, True Crime, Mafia, and on and on and on. notice that each one improves ONE or two elements over GTA and in literally EVERYTHING ELSE falls completely short?

the getaway was Cr*p

the only good thing about the simpsons: hit and run was is was the simspons cast members doing the voices

and the getaway was Cr*p
(that Cr*p wait a 'C'

All the games that promised to be a GTA Killer didnt live up to it

The Getaway

True Crimes

Jak and Daxter 2

Simpsons Hit & Run!

And i dont think Driver 3 will beat it, it just doesnt sound like a funner game then GTA. You get to be a cop and not a criminal and like all games the cops always have restrictions but criminals dont!