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Travel through the dawn to the pass pictured in our brochures. Look for a red truck with a dent on the right fender. Raise your left hand and recite the words: "Take me to to my father-father, brother-uncle. Kifflom." We'll do the rest. Because we all know, there is Kifflom and there is Krant, and both be praised.
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The "red truck with a dent on the right fender" is commonly believed to be the broken red Sadler, all-tho it should be noted that some believe it to be a red Walton. A red Sadler can also be seen in a picture at R*'s homepage ( http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ - Los Santos - Blueberry ), entering Blueberry from the east.
A pass can technically be any location, between two any items. Like a bridge, a tunnel, or a doorway.
It should also be noted that even tho there are plenty of broken red Sadlers, we have never seen one with a broken fender in San Andreas, because fenders can't be dented in San Andreas. They can however be dented (and broken off) in Vice City. So maybe the red truck is in Vice City?
Top 20 most likely passes (in an almost random order)
1: The long wooden stunt-ramp on that hill in the desert, at Arco Del Oeste. Argument: It serves no practical purpose and it would make a perfect beginning of a road in / through the air, to "Travel through the dawn" during a sunrise.
2: The "Blue light bridge", south-east of Blueberry. Argument: Blue is the color of Epsilon, so it would make sense that the drivable area under the bridge would be the pass. The bridge and it's blue light (at night) is visible from Blueberry (a suspected Epsilon town).
3: That brown airplane landing strip, or parking-lot like place directly west of North Rock and directly south of Fisher's Lagoon. Argument: It's a suspicious location. Those hillsides around it are among those, which look slightly blueish (at night) and the only (civilized) way to get there is with an off-road car (or aircraft). Like a broken red Sadler. Video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=219b8pw2dmI
4: The abandoned "Truck terminal Red county" in Blueberry. Argument: From a certain point of view the billboard spells out "Truck Red". The words "Red county" are red. The only building on the territory has a blue glow inside it, at night.
5: The "Jamieson gorge bridge", north of CJ's Intercountynal Airport (Verdant Meadows airfield), that leads to one of the locations of a broken Sadler and a Sea Sparrow. Argument: It's a bridge and there's a broken Sadler next to it.
6: An unspecified location in Valle Ocultado. Argument: This place is believed to be related to Epsilon, because it has the letter combination "cult" in it's name and because it's one of the locations of a broken Glendale. Valle Ocultado, translated, means "hidden valley" and a hidden Epsilon heaven (or something like that) is called "Puertas Amarillas Valley", which means Yellow door valley.
7: The natural arch on Mount Chiliad. visible from Foster Valley (south of San Fierro). Argument: It's an unusual item, which is technically a pass and the only (civilized) way to get there is with an off-road car (or aircraft). Like a broken red Sadler.
8: Road on top of the Sherman Dam. Argument: It was featured in a TV commercial for GTA San Andreas. It was dawn and a red Walton drove over the dam, west to east. This is also the reason why some believe a red Walton to be the right truck.
9: The natural arch at El Castillo del Diablo. In the desert, north-west of Area 69. Argument: It's an unusual thing and it's directly east of Las Brujas. Some believe that Epsilon somehow turned Las Brujas into a ghost town.
10: An unnamed bridge between Dillimore and Blueberry, the one that has a little wooden bridge under it. Argument: That bridge can be seen in a pictue in the Johnson house. That picture was taken at dawn.
Yeah. R* is probably purposely making it difficult.
Anyway, my new PC is almost complete. Pretty soon I'll be able to play the GTA IV series again and I'll be sure to point out anything suspicious. As I remember, there were several suspicious things there.
Some early PS2 version has a fourth location, on a sidewalk, just south-west of the San Fierro stadium, but no other versions have pedestrians on that street.
I don't remember seeing that kind of pedestrians, but if they exist, then there's no way for them to walk to the farm. There's no "pedestrian paths" leading to it. The game uses invisible roads, called "pedestrian paths" and "vehicle paths" to define roads. They'd have to drive there.
also... i was just listening to the backpackers lines again (thanx Randome) and noticed how often he says "can i interest you in some literature?"... maybe one of those lines are an ACTUAL question, the ones u can reply 'yes' or 'no' to... also maybe u need a couple gang members with u, maybe u need to shake him up a bit, or follow him with your gang shooting at him. (with terrible aim might i add)... i dunno, he says it a few different ways, maybe theres a way to trigger a question.
I and a lot of other people have followed him around; tried to use the "yes"'es and "no"'s and even beaten him up with a cane and made him run by shooting into the air. He doesn't seem to respond to any of the things we've thought of so far.
one of those guys got in a car and led me to a house in san fierro...i went in ant there were drawings of maps and symbols..it was freaky as hell....i came out and he was gone..the maps had special locations on them...there were many like the one that showed an cave under the santa monica beach that had structures in it...the place is by zombotech in san fierro 3 buildings north of it there should be an open door to go in hope this helps
Proof, or it didn't happen. We've had several liars here before.
Where EXACTLY was that house? Can you provide pictures? (Upload to the internet and post a link.) Can you provide a step by step manual, to make it happen again? Where EXACTLY were you when he got into the car?
come on,how the hell was that supposed be NICE!you seem like the knid who s*bleep*s behind someones back.they dont have an easy life.
by sayin "sorry to rain on your parade" but everyone already knows about your 'discovery'. then giving u info on a similar subject that u probly didnt know... now shut your mouth, your acting like a gay fish. no kanye. ps. i have no idea wtf your tryin to say, take an english course.
Calm down, both of you. This isn't an argument thread. That's what the GTA social forum is for.
Yeah, that is annoying. I've followed a lot of pedestrians around and believed to have heard every one of their lines, but those pedestrian quote videos have several times more lines that are never used.
R* has made 4 versions for the PC and about 2 for other consoles.
Usually they just fixed some glitches.
PC versions: v1.00 - Can be modified and has "hot coffee". v1.01 - Can't be modified with out a "downgrade patch", that turns it into a v1.00. Has hidden (deactivated) "hot coffee". They also fixed some glitches. v2.00 - Can't be modified with out a "downgrade patch", that turns it into a v1.00. Has no "hot coffee". And fixed more glitches. This version has a better screen resolution too. Special edition - Same as v2.00, but it has an extra 20 minute cut-scene at the beginning: "Introduction". The "Introduction" can be seen on youtube.
PS2 and Xbox: As far as I've heard, there's at least 2 PS2 versions (with and with-out "hot coffee"). There might be one more version where they fixed some glitches. Probably same for Xbox.
All consoles: The only way to know what version you have is to remind yourself of when you bought it. v1 (for all consoles) hasn't been on sale since 2004.
The PC versions have a little "v1.01", or "v2.00" at the lower corner of the screen when you turn it on. v1.00 doesn't have it.
The disappearing basketballs glitch doesn't have anything to do with cheat codes. They haven't fixed that in any versions so far. It's actually caused by saving at Madd Doggs house (so don't ever save there) and by using 2 or more save slots in less then an hour.
Originally when a date mission ended and the girlfriend asked CJ to drink some coffee, then then CJ would actually enter the house. Each girlfriends house was made up of only the bedroom (Millies bedroom can still be seen in 1 mission). There was a sex mission, called "hot coffee". None of the characters were naked, but R* still got a lot of bad publicity for it. So R* had to replace all v1.00's with v1.01's where "hot coffee" no longer existed. Otherwise San Andreas would have been 18+. But R* cheated and v1.01 still had "hot coffee". People used a mod to reactivate that mission. That's why they made v2.00, which doesn't have it. That was a big scandal back in 2004.
Search youtube to see the mission. I'm sure they have some videos of it.
also that isnt true, every character (cj and girlfriends) has both nude and semi-nude models. i have both on my gameshark, (actually i saved with the codes on, and some girlfriends are nude, and some are half dressed). lol CJ has a massive d!ck too, its around the size of the dildo.
I've only seen screenshots of the not completely nude ones. I thought the others were a mod.
It's effected by the kills (1 to 3 points or what was it?); destroying cars (10 points for a completely destroyed car) and destroying aircraft (30 points each). The best way would be to either put 4 helicopters into the big garage and blow them up, then let the garage fix them and do it again, or get a Rhino and park it where the army can't get to you and where the helicopters won't land their troops and just blow up the cop helicopters. That should work just as well and you'll increase the total time you've spent at 6 stars and you'll practise aiming the Rhinos gun. But see to it that you can save later. Don't get trapped in an alley with a burning tank.
I haven't plaid recently, but I think my rank was somewhere between Big Homie and Shot Caller.
All GTA 3 and 4 series games are programed to spawn lots of rare cars if your driving one. Just like if you drive a truck, you see more trucks and if you drive a sports car, you see more of them. And some sports cars almost never spawn at the same time.
And yeah, using a cheat is -10 points, just like dying.
I don't know about the parked one, but cars get damaged all the time in traffic.
I've sen all-red Glendales in Los Santos several times, with a dented front bumper, but they've all been normal. Or maybe I just didn't know what to do with them?
A Glendale could definitely not be the truck. Since it's not a truck.
The red Glendale is important, because it's the only kind of a Glendale that's entirely in the same color. The broken Glendales are pretty suspicious, so an all-red Glendale is even more suspicious.
I'm pretty sure that riddle refers to the Sadler. Note that the Sadler is a "pick-up". Americans often call pick-ups "trucks". But then again, it could just as easily be some other truck. Like a red Tanker that shows up only under special circumstances.
The Glendales in the forest are definitely suspicious and the all-red version is the only completely single color version, so it's kind of suspicious, but that's about it.
also, i came across this site http://www.gtacentral.com/gta-interior-wish-list/ its a very discriptive about the heavens. theres a 3rd brothel, and zombotech and sh!t like that... not sure if theres anything new on the list, but i thought it would be a nice addition to the collection of info we already have.
In my experience any PC should be able to run San Andreas on its lower settings. And as for GTA 2, then R* provides free downloads at their site: http://www.rockstargames.com/classics/
They'll ask you some personal info, but you can tell them any kind of fake stuff you want. Just be sure to give them a real e-mail address, because (if I remember right) they'll send you a download link.
The youtube videos about the beta missions were created as mods, but they were made according to the canceled mission scripts. Basically, those videos are just a close guess of what the missions would have looked like.
so there really isnt any codes left in the game. just scripts, right?... what about the super hero dude? wasnt there leftover codes about him?
As far as I know, there's only little pieces of code, like that cut-scene and the script, but nothing that could be made to work (with out the aid of a mod).
And the superhero voice is in the body of a bum, who lives in San Fierro. I don't know if he was ever suppose to have real super powers, or not, but that would have been so cool.
There's 2 left-over pedestrian "skins", who don't have matching solid bodies. One is usually called "statue man". He's entirely gray and is believed to have meant to become a "living statue". And the other is incomplete, but he's very bloody. He is not the same guy who was seen beaten up in the "introduction". The left-over skin is much bloodier. I think he was meant to be hanging from one of those meat hooks in that shoot-out mission in Las Venturas, where there were large pieces of meat hanging from hooks, as some guy who was killed by the mafia, but R* must have decided it was too much.
There's also left-over skins for an incomplete parrot. Maybe a prototype for the parrot from that casino mission? And 3 items of irregular shape, that don't look like anything at all.
I have a saved game for that mission too, but it would take me several days or more to decrease my "criminal rank" to that readhead. I'm also busy with GTA EfLC.
The only known cult locations in San Andreas are the places where the back-bag dudes show up and the farm. The only enlightenment center is in GTA IV and EfLC.
But there's a lot of other suspicious locations that can be on your way to Bayside, depending on which roads you're using.
I have put the insane yelling guys on the map. I know of 3 places to see them.
And the pedestrian speech lines are stored as recorded sounds in the game files. The problem is that R* is using some odd file types. There are programs out there, that can convert those sounds to mp3's and such, but I've never done that.
But that game hasn't really been fully explored. We're still finding pedestrians who say suspicious things about aliens and there's some myths that need confirming.
Like for example, I've heard that there's a door in some alley, that can't be accessed, but there's an armed guard there at all time. I have no idea where it might be.
Epsilon is present in the Vice City Stories radio; there was someone on the radio in GTA 3 and/or Vice City, who's suspected of having an Epsilon connection and there's an Epsilon presence in GTA IV.
No. The game is programed to load an endless ocean in front of you. But there is a little island in the San Fierro bay. There was a campfire and some pedestrians there during the mission where Ryder is killed.
I meant that the GTA IV Liberty City is pretty big. We've found several Epsilonish things already, but it's just so detailed. Can any of us say we've looked into every alley?
you know that cheat website ingame - www.whattheydonotwantyoutoknow.com may hold some clues, but i doubt it. ... has anyone seen anything epsilonish in TLAD or TBOGT?
TBoGT appears to be the same as IV except for new radio shows, new TV shows and possibly a difference in the locations and number of the insane yelling dudes on the street. And the enterable buildings and businesses are not all the same.
And this whole discussion should actually be in the CtEC. So I copied it here.
yo, could someone just jot down a quick list of what we've found in the IV series? off the top of my head: enlightenment centers a few mentions of it on the radio
And some bum pedestrians speak of aliens (present on Earth, according to Epsilon) who are after their sperm (doesn't exist, according to Epsilon) and maybe you'd be interested in the Sprunk theory (unproven speculation): http://sites.google.com/site/programmeepsilonproject/sprunk-and-green-goo
I've recently purchased a PS2 Slim and a bunch of awesome video games including this one. After skimming through this thread, I now must ask you guys an ultimate question: What in the hell is the "Epsilon Code"?
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Actually, it's called the "Epsilon Program".
It's a cult in the game. There are Epsilon recruiters in 3 to 4 locations in the game. If you just bought it, go to the hill in southern Los Santos. It's just west of the airport. That's one of the places to meet them. They have short pants and bags on their backs.
There's also several Epsilon members on the radio (WCTR mostly). And there's an Epsilon presence in some other GTA's as well. By the end of the storyline, the founder and leader of Epsilon, Cris Formage, has an interview on WCTR.
Those tests don't really say much about the PC, unless you compare the results to other PC's that have taken the same test.
But whatever. I play all my GTA 3 series games on a laptop and they work fine. Also, you might want to go look at the game settings after you've made your first saved game. GTA 3 and VC (PC versions) scan your PC when you first turn them on and then automatically adjust the game for "optiomal configuration for your PC". It turned the quality all the way down, but I manually turned the settings up for GTA 3 and it works just as well at HD settings. My VC became glitchy when I tied to make that work at the highest settings.
I don't have a PS3 and I'm not gonna buy one just for this, but I'm pretty sure that if there is something, then it shouldn't take too long for someone here (or somewhere else) to find it and make a mod that copies it into the PC version.
Anyway, if someone here has a PS3, then they should consider buying it.
If it exists and isn't just a direct port of the PS2 version of the game, I'll buy it. Otherwise, I have San Andreas for the PS2, Xbox, and Xbox 360 Arcade. Lol.
Darrius Fontane claims Chris formage is a cheat/liar CF tries to 'recruit' lazlow Epsilon could be an anagram for something Epsilon discourages science Camper peds similar to disciples of major religons
The drug line was spoken by a caller, who was speaking of the advantages of living like a cave-man. "Hey, Cris, Epsilon sounds awesome! But if you read the fossil record, hunter-gatherer dudes had it made. I mean who wouldn't want to drag their women around by their hair? They smoked anything they could find! That's like so freaking cool! Then all the men would like disappear for days at a time, and you'd only hear beasts shrieking in the distance."
The Epsilon Program internet page and 2 members say that the Epsilon Program opposes drug usage and helps people over-come their addictions.
Well, for one thing. Most of them are some kind of bullshit.
The first 5 things could be true in the GTA universe.
The 6'th one is kind of suspicious, since there's all sorts of sperm references throughout San Andreas and the GTA IV series.
The 8'th one is also true in the GTA universe. We don't see aliens, but there was an alien body in Area 69. Remember the announcer? The GTA IV series pedestrians have a lot of alien related speech lines.
I don't know of anyone who would have heard trees talk. I'm not saying that it can't be triggered as a special event, but it definitely can't be done during normal game-play.
10 to 12 can't be proven.
And the last one is bullshit. In GTA 3 there was at least 6 to 8 men per each woman and in the GTA IV series, it seems to be closer to about 3 men for each woman. I just pulled this statistic "out of my ass", so don't quote me.
That Washingtons radio is always on WCTR. They speak of aliens on the show "Area 53".
And as for the crash, maybe you were so far away from the car, during the crash, that the game didn't bother to spawn a pedestrian? Or maybe there was a larger crash, just off screen? And the pedestrian left the car and then some other car crashed into it and made it move and crash into the tree? And then by the time you got there, the other cars had disappeared?
Maybe the washington is Epsilons trademark car as Randome said that car is always on WCTR.
Wait a minute this gives me an idea. "Washington". Who could that be named after? George Washington! And who is on the 1 dollar bill? Him again! There's a radio station in the GTA IV series, called WKTT (We know The Truth). It's about all sorts of crazy stuff. And 1 show is called "Conspire" (about conspiracies and stuff like that). Don't bother to look for that in any GTA IV radio scripts, because that show exists in only Episodes from Liberty City. And at one point they mention the "dollar bill conspiracy"! It all makes sense. They also speak of the "penny conspiracy" and about how the government uses eugenics to make people dumb, so they'd be useless, when the Chinese invade, which they'll do via the west coast! And where are people dumb? Los Santos!
Or maybe I've just been awake a little too long? Anyway, if any of you have GTA EfLC, listen to WKTT!
I know the news. There's a thread for it in the GTA social forum.
I don't think so. It's suppose to be in Los Angeles Santos and in modern times, but that's about the only piece of certain info. Read the thread in the social forum too.
so whats this talk about san andreas being ported to the ps3? is talk about a gta collection for ps3 going around again like they did with god of war and the sly copper collection?? anyone got a link or anything??
i'd love a gta collection of 3 vice and sa on the ps3 with trophy support,
I've recorded the "Conspire" show on the "WKTT" station, in GTA TBoGT.
I don't have a program that would record only sound, so I made a video. It was about 23 and a half minutes long and about 12 GB (HD). So then I turned it into an mp3, which was 21.5 MB.
I cut the beginning and the end off, so it wouldn't include the end of the last show and the beginning of the next. There's still some commercials in there at one point.
The new mp3 is 19.2 MB and 21 minutes and 4 seconds.
There was a Weazel news report, just before the show that says that people with red hair will be redefined as a separate race, so they could have the same rights as other minorities.
GTA TBoGT: The show "Conspire", on the "WKTT" radio station.
And he said he heard something about aliens. That's because all Washingtons have the radio on the "WCTR" station by default. There's a show on that station, called "Area 53", where people speak of aliens and conspiracies.
also i was playing today (on pc, very happy the graphics are better then ps2 ) and i seen a backpacker at unity station in el corona.. i dont think that spots been noted.
I've seen them there too. It's not a different spawn area. It's next to the Verdant Bluffs area.
what areas can i help search guys? i dont have anything to do on san andreas now ever since i finished it 100 percent and i bought a new copy a few week ago
I have no idea. I've looked everywhere. I'm exploring the GTA IV series.
I've noticed that if you crash into the RV, then he never gets back into it.
And they may have been walking that way, because all pedestrians who become stranded like that are programmed to walk to the nearest town.
I've also noticed, that no vehicle will ever disappear from the top of the mountain, as long as the mission still works. Unless the vehicle is destroyed. I found that by driving to Blueberry and back.
also do u kno a sure-fire way to make him get back into his RV? cuz it seems pretty (no pun intended lol) random to me. sometimes he does, usually he doesnt.
I'm not sure if there is a totally sure way to get him back into his car. I've just noticed that if you touch his vehicle with your own, then there's almost no chance of him getting back in there.
And of course, you have to get into his RV, not just pull him out. Sometimes he hi-jackes you back and other times he just fights you.
You can't use the Tow-truck, or the Tractor. For some reason, the RV can't be towed off that mountain. I don't know if towing is disabled during that mission, only for that RV, or if you can't tow anything that's on that mountain.
That helicopter is a special version of the Leviathan. The same helicopter, that you have to protect in Interdiction.
The magnet is only available during that 1 mission. I've heard that in some older versions of the game it's possible to save it in the big garage (and fail the mission), but that mission comes much later. I've tried to save it, but in my game, the magnet disappears as soon as the helicopter enters the garage. The usual Leviathan spawns at the S.F. airport; L.V. airport; sometimes at the military fuel base in north-east L.V. and later at CJ's intercountynal airport. The ones at the airports are still locked at that time, but I'm not sure about the one in the fuel base.
But maybe that's the whole point? Maybe we're not suppose to move the RV? Instead we might have to move something else to it?
Some games (I don't know which) actually do give people certain messages depending on what day it is. As far as I know, no GTA is like that, but you're welcome to try.
It appears in about 3 missions, but there's 2 missions where one can steal the "Mothership". One of those missions is close to the end and you don't even have to fail the mission to get it.
Some words were too unclear (for me). I put my own comments into these: "[]".
He seems to be trying to start a pro-african-racist-socialist revolution. And he believes that it will happen in the very near future. He likes to dress "well" (in native African clothing) and he doesn't like alcohol, or "crack", but he does like cannabis. He doesn't like the police, who he believes are a part of the enemy. He also believes himself to be wanted by the F.B.I. He confuses uncle Sam, for "uncle Tom".
Spoiler:The script
quote African revolutionary
Look at you, diluting your mind with poison. Don't you have no arfican beer? Liquor stores on every corner? Do you see a black man trying to drive? That's the devil mentality causing confusion. I'm late for dr. Archballs lecture. Traffic jams, these 85'ers lack street knowledge. Allegra. Please, clear my path. Capitalism breaths bad traffic. In certain communities, this wouldn't happen. I'm late for dr. Bens lecture. No respect for the black and bitter. Stop lights - spying on me uncle Tom? Get your hand out of my pocket! Stop harassing me 5O! I know who you are, pig. Brother, I have no beef with you. Let's be peaceful, brother. Out here, lookin', talkin' and selling snitch. Let's be respectful, brother. Your aggression is counter-revolutionary. Get a good lock, you snitch. "Gang-banging" is what they want us to do. [Too unclear] ...Kahh diamonds, brother. I like message raps. I like message raps. [Different tone] I like intellectual raps. My gang is the african revolution. Jack Howitzer is making pigs look cool. Steak out is really a police surveillance skeem. Brother, clean up your appearance. Sloppy cloths show a sloppy mind. Those garments are atrocious, brother. Brother, I can donate you some clothing. Don't eat to die, eat to live. Brother, I know a shelter with showers. Cleanliness is next to godliness. Deaf, dumb and blind, free your mind! Let he, who has ears, hear, brother. Clean the lies from your ears, brother. Looking very presentable, brother. I like those garments, brother. Looking good, bro. Look at that strong black brother - now that's an african warrior. Your body is a fine, fine temple, brother. The revolution needs strong brothers, like you. Smelling good, bro. Smelling good, [too unclear]. I aint gay, but you smell good. That was an act of racism! Black men on bikes, scare you? An attack on my right to self-navigate. Capitalism breaths accidents. That was an act of bigotry! Brothers in the drivers seat, intimidate you? These pigs are gonna' blame me. Watch. Capitalism breaths car crashes. Driver, you lack street knowledge. There are asian provocateurs all over the road. It's the feds! Bigot, it's a hit! The government. Careful, they found me. Aaah! It's bad [or "that"?] drugs, making me paranoid. This stuff should be legalized. They don't want us, expanding our minds. Legalize it and I'll advertise it. Hit me with the mystic erb, brother. The people have a right to congruence, by a vote. That's bacon, confused brother. Revolutioning my people. Love it! You walking kind of strange. What's that, a chicken walk? Our people have a right to self defense. This hurts me more then it hurts you, brother. You need to be corrected, brother. I'll beat the uncle Tom out of you. Violence breaths more violence, you fool! Please brother, stop the violence! They want us to kill one-another. Always a sell-out pulling the trigger. Self-hate is making you do this. You gonna' go do drive-by's, uncle Tom? The man led you by temptation. Unhand me, you sell-out. I'm on my way to a relic. You're a tool for the man. The revolution will deal with you, traitor. Sell-out! Traitor! Thieving uncle Tom! Wake up, brother! You're brainwashed! You counter-revolutionary. Poor brain-washed bastard. The teacher appears, but the student rejects. I was lost in the darkness, just like you. He's too far gone to even listen. It's never too late to embrace truth. Reject the messenger, but consider the message. Robb the other man, not the brother, man! Gonna' go buy a gold chain now, uncle Tom? No more crime, please. Ye', it's a wicked, destructive thing. Of course. And I'd stay away, if I were you. Yes, it's time that you've gone out about it. Sure, but there's more to the story. Of course, but I don't discuss it openly. Yes, it's what they don't want us to know. No, but thanks for the lead. No, but I have to research that. No, but is it safe to openly discuss? I only deal with revolutionaries. End of conversation, infiltrator. Kiss my ass, snitch. I don't talk to informants, fool. Uhura salsa [possibly something in an african language], sister. Abaurogana [possibly something in an african language], sister. Free the [too unclear]. Uhura salsa [possibly something in an african language], brother. [Too unclear - possibly something in an african language.] Abaurogana [possibly something in an african language], brother. Keep seeking truth, sister. Peace and unity. Be aware of the beast, sister. Be aware of the beast, brother. Keep fighting the power. Peace and unity. [Again.] Have you tried meditating with [too unclear]? Ever read dr. Archballs book on black knowledge? Heard much about the "new world order"? You know anything about the "crack conspiracy"? I think a "wire tap" is on my phone. The "new world order" has enslaved our people. "Crack" dealers are destroying my community! The revolution is coming, soon. I'm wearing my best african garments. San Fierro is waking up to the truth. Too black and too strong to die. The ancestors sent me back. Capitalism breaths violent deaths. Obviously this was a government plot. Look at the hate, that hate made. Accidents - that's what they want you to think. Look at these bar-codes, [too unclear] are exploiting the people. Why do they always follow me around here? Is this the bread I'm suppose to boycott? You waited to serve me last. Didn't you? I'm paying cash. You sure, you're not over charging me? Relax, I'm only pulling out my wallet. Dirty government trickster! My fine african garment! Did the man put you up to this? More [too unclear] for harassment. I know my rights. No fed. [Or something like that.] Your driver lacks street knowledge. Taxi! You gonna' pin that murder on me, pig? Provocateur - as I suspected. You set me up like a [too unclear]. You're not a government agent, are you? How do I know, this cab isn't "bugged"? This feels like a set-up. Stay in the drivers seat, brother. Right on. Watch out for the conspiracy, brother. Spend this tip in the community, brother. Pass this onto the next brother. Brother, I need freedom! ...From this vehicle. By trapping me, you've only trapped yourself. Now we're both victims of capitalism. "Jacking" cars, is what they want you to do.
It's a fellowship of like-minded adults who tithe money in exchange for salvation and merit badges.
Don't you listen to the game radio? Or walk the streets?
For example, go to that hill, just west of the Los Santos airport. Walk around until you see a dude with a back-bag. Listen to what he's saying. Also, listen to WCTR. The content of that radio station changes throughout the storyline. By the second half of the game, there's a show called "Entertaining America". The host, Lazlow, does an interview with the leader and founder Cris Formage.
I've heard that there's a wardrobe between the main doors of the "Pereztroika" club in GTA IV, where a woman who works there, knows Nikos name, even tho they've never met (at least not in any mission). She supposedly calls Niko by his name, if he should punch her.
Yeah, I think it is safe to assume that CJ will never meet some Epsilon god, or Cris Formage in an underground base.
I'm sure well still be able to find some new things tho. Mostly just pointless things, like some rare vehicle, parked behind a corner, during some mission. Or maybe like some more odd and extremely suspicious glitches, like the Interdiction flares, but that's about it.
And as for the GTA IV series, then I'm still pretty paranoid, that there's some undiscovered easter-egg, in a dumpster, in some alley.
imo, any undiscovered easter egg in gta IV, would be in the episodes. i doubt anything new will be found in the main game. simply because, rockstar filled the disc... well, on an xbox dvd anyway... they had to jump through hoops to shrink IV down to xbox size. and there really wasnt any room for all the extras we love.
I nearly never play GTA IV. TBoGT is where it's at.
quote Arjy
Its oddly comforting, I loved this game and forum and I never want it to die.
In the Epsilon Program, there are no series finales. It goes on, and on, and on. We don't abandon you.
is that what tthat little cabin is for in BOB Woods?
i always wondered why it was there?
No, not the cabin. I meant the house which has blue windows at night. It's the farm that CJ went to, during a Truth mission, to steal a Combine.
The Truth said that fascists survivalist extremists live there, but blue is the color of Epsilon and why do the windows glow blue at night? A paper map that came with some early copies of the game stated that it's the "Cult location".
i for the life of me cant find that area at all and i have the trilogy edition so i am not sure if the map is in the case for the game
got a pic?
It's this place:
Can you remember where The Truths farm is? It's directly to the north of there. Or you could find the straight tunnel, that's used as a shortcut, on ones way from Los Santos to San Fierro. The tunnel is under that farm.
Have you seen the L.A. Noire introduction? It has an illuminati symbol in it. It's on top of a building, which was shaped like the Los Angeles Public Library, but the symbols in the game are different.
'The Cult of the Black Stone Goddess, Lady Destroyer and Wielder of Intangible Truths.
Fives figure frequently for favorites.
Thus, Eris and Aneris are not enemies, nor should their followers be.
Neither should their detractors be enemies.
Either way, Harmony is not outright order, but the perceived beneficence of well-being as Discord is not outright chaos, but the perceived disorder of the natural flow.'
Usage:
"Hail Aneris, Goddess of Harmony! May She save us from the traps set by Asshat Predecessors, and may we her pupils ALWAYS enjoy the benefits of Her omnibenevolence!"
The planing department as 3 floors. The 2nd floors door is locked in the mission where you go inside but open when you cheat your way inside. It might be connected.
That sounds interesting. I haven't been to most of the things in the interior universe myself.
Is there anything on that floor, that looks different from the other floors? Anything at all? Even a piece of furniture, that doesn't appear in the other offices?
Could you get a screen-shot of the "huge board room"?
And the "all interiors unlocked glitch", was that the one where you had to skip the first cut-scene, causing yellow markers to appear at every building that has an interior? Or did you use something else?
And I think it might be a good idea, if you bought that little cable, that allows you to connect your phone to the USB port on a PC.
I have one. It also needs a special program, but I got mine for free, from the phone companies homepage. That way, you can actually keep the pictures and videos you make. It's definitely worth it.
You have to either find the interior you want, in blue hell. Or you have to start a new game and enter the jetpack cheat during the first cut-scene. It had to be done either before, or while CJ is in the taxi. And then skip the rest of the cut-scene (or wait until it ends). That should create a yellow marker at the door of every enterable interior. But they work only once, before you have to do all of this again.
Does anyone remember when people were talking about hearing aliens in Mike Toreno's car? Well, yesterday while playing I came out of my Los Venturas safe house and a ped said something like "Aliens talk to me on my cars radio" Has anyone else heard this?
I have, but I've just considered him to be insane.
Fred Melamed (the voice-actor for Cris Formage) spoke to the Epsilon community through his Facebook account again. He confirmed he's earlier report that he has indeed got another job at R* and that he can't say anything more detailed, but we'll be the first ones to know.
Well, the most useless one that i found is that formage looks a lot like fromage, which is cheese in french. I dont know if theres any place in SA that has something to do with cheese, but anyways.
There's no cheese related things in San Andreas (other than maybe some advertisement billboard, that I may have forgotten).
The second one is that ive heard in some forum that the birthmark shown in the official epsilon program site looks like Africa. And i think that RandomE found an african ped wearing african-like clothes saiyng some weird stuff, and i thoght that since he dresses like an african,and the birthmark looks like Africa, epsilon might be linked to him.
He doesn't say anything about Epsilon, but he's an interesting person.
So i decided to google dawn and i opened the wikipedia page. From there, i opened an wikipedia article about Eos, a greek godess, and ive seen some cool stuff there. Ill put what i finded interesting there in here:
'The dawn goddess, Eos with "rosy fingers" opened the gates of heaven so that Helios, her brother, could ride his chariot across the sky every day.'
'Depictions of the dawn-goddess with a young lover became popular...'
' ...who rose from her home at the edge of Oceanus, the ocean that surrounds the world, to herald her brother Helios, the Sun.'
The first quote could be linked to the path of dawn, and a 'rosy finger' could be a buquet. The second one could be linked to the 7º tenet, and the third one can refer to the place where you have to go with the buquet, the edge of the map, but possibly not the ocean, cause i think it was RandomE that said in this forum that the game is programmed to keep loading an endless ocean while you keep swimming, so maybe it could be the edge of the map.
I dont remenber the rest of the 'path of dawn' text or where i read it, so probably this idea is wrong, but anyways...
I was just there. I noticed that that's not the only such industrial building in the area that has a bule light like that.
R* must have been too lazy to put a lamp there. Or maybe that building belongs to Epsilon? Either way, it's real and it's visible only at night, just like all other glowing lights.
Don't watch anymore of his videos. That guy, along with "cfox", is a liar. Just about everything in his videos is a lie.
There is no mothman in any GTA. It's an old myth, which has always been fake. They use mods and movie-magic in their videos.
But the earthquake is real. There's no way to cause an earthquake in the game, or ever to see one, but there was one in San Andreas, just before the beginning of the storyline. According to the WCTR news (a radio station with changing content), it was a small earthquake and no-one was inured. The bridges were closed because of this.
Wow Randome, just, wow... Honestly, Id hate to see how many hours youve clocked on this game... Seriously? I remember way back at the end of school in grade 8 (3 years ago) going to the coast and reading up on the "Miracle of the Prostitute and the Priest in the RV". Anyway, with my nostalgia and surprise at how this thread has stayed alive for... What is it now? 10 years?
6 years. And I don't constantly play this. I have the game memorized, so now I only turn it on when I need to confirm something, or get a screenshot.
Nice to see you're still alive! How you been?
And nice theory. I hope you don't mind me sharing it with our allied forum (link in the first post).
Ive got the dent thing! On my game, theres a part of the railing on the bridge that doesnt load! If you're coming from San Fierro's side, its on the right side of the bridge!
Hmm, to me, it sounds like were one step closer, lol
quote Blue-Dragon
coming from San Fierro's side, its on the right side of the bridge!
Which is on the left hand side if your traveling "into the dawn" (traveling east)
I think i found the brochure. When you buy gta sa for the pc you get a instruction book with it like a city guide so i looked in it and the only thing that looks like a pass is the gant bridge. Maybe this is the brochure we where looking for
Good idea, but what's really gonna "blow your mind", is that different versions of the game have different manual books. And they all have pictures. So maybe we should try to find out which pictures (if any) are common to them all.
I know some of us have the original 2004 PS2 hot coffee version and I have the latest PC v2.00, but there's also at least one Xbox version; at least one more PS2 version and 2 more PC versions (v1.00 and v1.01).
I have the gta trilogy edition, can I help at all?
Welcome to the forum!
We can't tell you where exactly to go, or what exactly to look for. If we'd know that, this would be solved.
But what you can do, is read the first post of this thread. There's a lot of useful links that lead you to a lot of useful info. For example the large catalogue about the discoveries so far: http://sites.google.com/site/programmeepsilonproject/
If you see anything suspicious while playing, feel free to report it here.
And it only increases the value of the one red vending machine at a fuel station in northern San Fierro.
There's an abandoned Sprunk factory in the GTA IV series Liberty City. There's a big shoot-out mission in there. It looks completely trashed. Some even say it's haunted. And there's a big pipe that has some green stuff flowing out of it.
I've never heard of the red vending machine, what's important about it?
Nothing. It's unique. It's red and has some "Cola" color on it. Sprunk is suppose to be like Sprite, so this "Cola" must by Coca-cola. But oddly the red vending machine still serves usual Sprunk cans. Either way, it's a unique source of Sprunk.
Find the Pay'n'spray in northern San Fierro. It should be right around the corner from there.