I've found that once she's fed, her mid game excels better than most other adcs. Her and soraka bot lane is insane, it just allows sivir to Q off cooldown. Also, she's the best damn counter to caitlyn that I've ever seen. So guys, what do you think of her?

quote DC Sniper

I'm not really seeing where you got the "best counter to Caitlyn" bit from...

3 reasons: A), Shield negates trap and gives her free mana restore, B) Q does higher damage to champions if aimed at 1 target than caitlyn's, because it goes through them twice, C) Her movespeed bonuses easily allows her to catch up to caitlyn's base 300. Also, sivir's shield causes caitlyn's ultimate to fail and is easily predictable. Seen it in ranked, so amusing . And the cait was even good :/. Still managed to farm, despite getting hurt by boomerangs every few seconds .

quote ShadowCrystallux

quote DC Sniper

I'm not really seeing where you got the "best counter to Caitlyn" bit from...

3 reasons: A), Shield negates trap and gives her free mana restore, B) Q does higher damage to champions if aimed at 1 target than caitlyn's, because it goes through them twice, C) Her movespeed bonuses easily allows her to catch up to caitlyn's base 300. Also, sivir's shield causes caitlyn's ultimate to fail and is easily predictable. Seen it in ranked, so amusing . And the cait was even good :/. Still managed to farm, despite getting hurt by boomerangs every few seconds .

A) Shield lasts 3 seconds and needs to be timed well. B) Q can be dodged C) Caitlin has a slow and escape mechanism, negating Sivir's ult.

quote ShadowCrystallux

quote DC Sniper

quote ShadowCrystallux

quote DC Sniper

I'm not really seeing where you got the "best counter to Caitlyn" bit from...

3 reasons: A), Shield negates trap and gives her free mana restore, B) Q does higher damage to champions if aimed at 1 target than caitlyn's, because it goes through them twice, C) Her movespeed bonuses easily allows her to catch up to caitlyn's base 300. Also, sivir's shield causes caitlyn's ultimate to fail and is easily predictable. Seen it in ranked, so amusing . And the cait was even good :/. Still managed to farm, despite getting hurt by boomerangs every few seconds .

A) Shield lasts 3 seconds and needs to be timed well. B) Q can be dodged C) Caitlin has a slow and escape mechanism, negating Sivir's ult.

A) 3 seconds is long enough to take a trap out and caitlyn's ultimate is predictable for the shield. B) Yes, but it's a much faster launch speed than caitlyn's, and is hard to avoid if the sivir has any sense of direction. C) Caitlyn's slow and move away does bugger all when a sivir has Ghost, Passive and Ultimate, especially when the caitlyn is beyond halfway of her turret.

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I think it comes down to player skill moreso than the fact that she's a counter.

I stay away from ADC whenever possible since its just not enjoyable for me. But when I do have to play it Miss Fortune and Sivir are my girls. I just love weaving around the minions as MF and launching random auto attacks. I've yet to play SIvir and Soraka but next time I have the chance I will.

It's kinda pointless to talk about going against AD carries that aren't corki, ezreal, and graves since they're picked around 90+% of games.

Sivir's a safe pick to go against champions like blitz, taric, and nunu, whom are also very popular. You can also shield Ez's W which is the most annoying skill when you're playing an AD.

But, in general she's picked if you want a really strong pusher. Her pushing is one of the best, second to like, Tristana's early game. She can easily take an inhibitor or a couple of turrets if they're unguarded. I've been able to keep my team in lost games because of that.

quote DC Sniper

I think it comes down to player skill moreso than the fact that she's a counter.

I don't understand this... Yes, player skill does play a factor in if the champion that would normally counter another is actually a counter. This applies to literally all counterpicks, lol. A poorly played Sivir will obviously not counter a well played Cait. However, saying that a counterpick in no way affects how champions stack up against each other is a tad arrogant (Or ignorant depending on your knowledge of the game because I do believe you are a new-ish player, apologizes if I'm remembering incorrectly.) If the Sivir and Cait are around the same elo (Thus their skill in the game) then it's fairly accurate to say a Sivir would win against a Cait in lane because Sivir's kit counters Cait's, thus being a counterpick.

While we are at it, Sivir is also good at "countering" support Nunu, which was also mentioned. His harass (Snowball) is easily predictable and slow moving. If you have say a support Blitz, then you can easily interrupt his ult also, making him virtually useless.

All this being said, Sivir needs a remake, both graphically and playstyle wise because she just isn't on par with the current adc's. Specifically an ult change would dramatically increase her viability.