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WakeCraterWind Oh, Freedom, Freedom Over Me s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1570 since: Sep 2010	Jul 26, 12 at 7:39pm ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	Log in to remove this sponsored message quote BluAnimal Wait. 1. Corki 2. ??? 3. Udyr? #2
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A Wind Powered Moose Reminds me of a puzzle... true seeker total posts: 1042 since: May 2008	Jul 26, 12 at 8:00pm ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	quote Tiger go Meow 15 second down time to apply moonlight again? Pretty big window to bash her in if she's not tanky tanky... Darius is pretty much: Killed you with my ult, now going to kill you with my ult, and another person with my ult. BTW it does true damage, kthxgoodnight. Diana's can at least be stopped by a decent dose of MR since it's magic damage. /: You're not really stopping it since it isn't dependent on the amount of damage it's doing for its refresh. Only if they have a mark on them. And this is a teleport. A teleport that instantly refreshes as long as you hit them with your big ass AoE. A teleport on a champion who also has an AoE slow that perfectly sets up a damaging shield that will refresh when it does it's damage. Darius has no gap closers. He's not going to jump from champ to champ to champ if you just stay out of his range and damage him. He doesn't even do that much damage if you build tanky, and if you don't, you melt. It doesn't matter if it does true damage, he's not going to kill you in one hit. Depending on ratios, we're talking about a champion that will not only nuke the bleep out of someone by blinking onto them, but they will be able to blink all over the bleeping place droppin the sick deeps. She could be much more problematic than Darius. Darius hasn't even showed up in the last 30 games I've played. I trust them to give her suitable ratios, but if her numbers are whack, like Volty's other champ Vayne, on release, there could be a real shitstorm brewin.
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Bass Ultra Still Seekin' total posts: 3431 since: Dec 2007	Jul 26, 12 at 8:27pm ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	quote BluAnimal quote Lorx there's a guy in an airplane that can't outrun somebody with swords duct taped to his shoes, and also by somebody who sets himself on fire to damage people around him. Calling to realism seems kind of silly at this point. Wait. 1. Corki 2. ??? 3. Udyr? Corki, Master Yi, Dr. Mundo I believe. Ok, looks like Akali 2.0 to me. A dash and a blink? Moonfall sounds like a gap closer to me with an attached slow, and there's those blinks from her ultimate. Pale Cascade is a continuous defence steroid in a team fight. What. Playstyle is pretty similar to Akali too probably, Q them then R them, although most of your damage would probably be from that passive. I'm thinking Guinsoo's and Wit's End will be core on her. Also, ohmygerd there's less sex appeal in this splash art. ------------------- Just kidding Rome
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Tiger go Meow Hooked on Caffeine Neo or Bust total posts: 7320 since: Feb 2002	Jul 26, 12 at 8:31pm ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	And to count the Q is a curved skill shot. If you miss your Q, you got a 15 second CD to wait out to use it again just to have a refreshable ult. So you either go CDR build and get your Q up more for sustained damage and helluvagood chase, or you go AP and get insane burst damage with fewer blinks to close gap. Pretty sure you could go CDR/AP set up and get a good rounded out set up with her that has both burst and good down time on her Q. ------------------- Say "ahh~"
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WakeCraterWind Oh, Freedom, Freedom Over Me s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1570 since: Sep 2010	Jul 26, 12 at 9:08pm ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	quote Tiger go Meow And to count the Q is a curved skill shot. If you miss your Q, you got a 15 second CD to wait out to use it again just to have a refreshable ult. So you either go CDR build and get your Q up more for sustained damage and helluvagood chase, or you go AP and get insane burst damage with fewer blinks to close gap. Pretty sure you could go CDR/AP set up and get a good rounded out set up with her that has both burst and good down time on her Q. Pretty sure that Q is supposed to help tremendously in not hitting the tank; and nailing those squishy ashes and vaynes that are cowering behind leona. It's not about landing the Q per se, but landing it on the right person. I don't think the curve will be a big problem in actually landing it, and chances are, it'll hit someone more vital.
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Lorx supermod total posts: 20358 since: Apr 2006	Jul 26, 12 at 11:25pm ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	Compare her ult more to Akali or Ahri, somebody who uses their ult multiple times for the sake of closing in and keeping damage on somebody. Not Darius, who's ult is classified as an Execute. Different purpose. A Wind Powered Moose is correct about Darius, while he has a ton of power, you will never see him in competitive play because he has nothing for movement, which pretty much sinks him. If fed he will do fantastic, but realistically he should never be getting fed in the first place. She'd probably make a decent jungler if the shield is nice, though with kind of wishy-washy ganks. Which means she'll be a top lane in a competitive setting, which...could work, depending on her numbers and the specific nuances of her Q. Interesting kit though at least. BluAnimal: Corki Yi Mundo, though Udyr would work too for that last one. ------------------- [twitter]
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ShadowCrystallux Don't you trust me? (moderator) Champions League of Legends Tactics & Strategy total posts: 4660 since: Feb 2010	Jul 27, 12 at 2:25am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	Well: she'll have ridiculous fun in a teamfight. AoE Moonlight Proc>Shield>RRRRR back. Oh and whatever her other move is. That kind of harass will do a shitton of harass, and in cases of weak enemies, penta kill. ------------------- Sign up for League of Legends here! Refer ShadowCrystallux please !
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A Wind Powered Moose Reminds me of a puzzle... true seeker total posts: 1042 since: May 2008	Jul 27, 12 at 5:18am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	There seems to be mobility creep in LoL these days. Champs that don't have some sort of gap closer or MS steroid just aren't viable.
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Bass Ultra Still Seekin' total posts: 3431 since: Dec 2007	Jul 27, 12 at 6:38am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	So, everyone is getting the ult wrong it seems. quote http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=27451080#27451080 Also nobody seems to understand how the Ulti refresh works. You have to put Moonlight on the target for the CD to refresh on the Ulti, and only Q applies Moonlight. Also, it says that casting her Ulti on a Moonlight target uses up all Moonlight effects, so you can only get one refresh per use of Q. The most you could hope to get is to Q -> wait for Q to come back up -> R -> Q -> R -> R if you wanted to use R the most close together, but that would put the CD on R, and that's assuming Moonlight has a duration longer than Qs CD. So its a low cooldown Q (hopefully), R consumes all moonlights, and that last bit seems to imply that building cdr might make moonlight outlast Q's CD. ------------------- Just kidding Rome
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WakeCraterWind Oh, Freedom, Freedom Over Me s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1570 since: Sep 2010	Jul 27, 12 at 6:40am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	Ashe has neither, if you'll note. Most ranged AD champs don't, iirc.
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GhostMember Neolithic total posts: 6863 since: Oct 2006	Jul 27, 12 at 6:49am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	quote WakeCraterWind Ashe has neither, if you'll note. Most ranged AD champs don't, iirc. Ezreal: Blink Caitlyn, Corki, Graves, Tristana, Vayne: Dash Draven, MF, Sivir: Haste Only Kog, Twitch, Varus and Ashe don't have mobility abilities. ------------------- quote Elliot Gale It's called breakfast because eating dinner doesn't go where? D:
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WakeCraterWind Oh, Freedom, Freedom Over Me s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1570 since: Sep 2010	Jul 27, 12 at 7:16am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	So I didn't recall correctly. (btw MF doesn't count; her's is out of combat) But still it's not impossible. kog, mf, and ashe are all perfectly viable.
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A Wind Powered Moose Reminds me of a puzzle... true seeker total posts: 1042 since: May 2008	Jul 27, 12 at 8:45am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	quote WakeCraterWind So I didn't recall correctly. (btw MF doesn't count; her's is out of combat) But still it's not impossible. kog, mf, and ashe are all perfectly viable. MF's only disappears if she takes damage. She can harass incredibly well in lane with it and stay mobile in teamfights as long as her positioning is fine. Hers completely counts. Kog makes up for it with the largest range with his steroid, a 52% slow, and a 2200 range low CD ult. Ashe is barely viable at high levels of play and it's only because of her initiating ability with her ult. She gets outclassed by pretty much all other AD carries. Not to mention the AP carries that get shafted because they aren't mobile enough. Brand, Ziggs, Viktor, Malzahar, Lux, Morde, and Veigar are on the list. I feel like Zyra will soon join them. The only one off the top of my head who succeeds without a dash is Morgana because of her bullshit shield and ult.
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WakeCraterWind Oh, Freedom, Freedom Over Me s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1570 since: Sep 2010	Jul 27, 12 at 10:41am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	Oh really? I had no idea; I thought she just had a free Boots of Mobility or something. Makes me want to play her more. quote A Wind Powered Moose Brand, Ziggs, Viktor, Malzahar, Lux, Morde, and Veigar In terms of positioning, many of these guys just need to be in range of their abilities and preferably out of sight or far away from their enemies. Most of them also have a CC escape tool that works almost as well as mobility. Well... not Malzahar though.
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Chaosfire #Livin'LikeLarry Hooked on Neo since: Jul 2010	Jul 27, 12 at 10:44am ^ re: Diana, Scorn of the Moon
	quote BluAnimal quote Lorx there's a guy in an airplane that can't outrun somebody with swords duct taped to his shoes, and also by somebody who sets himself on fire to damage people around him. Calling to realism seems kind of silly at this point. Wait. 1. Corki 2. ??? 3. Udyr? Mundo sets him self on fire. Hence the name, burning agony. Pic related, the icon for burning agony. Also yi is the one with swords taped to his feet, Second fun fact, gragas runs faster than corki too. Edit: Udyr doesn't set himself on fire. Leave him alone. I wonder if Diana will actually be that good of a jungler. Riot said that sejauni was a good jungler, and she can barely make it past the firsr clear without dieing. ------------------- last.fm
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