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Dec 24, 12 at 10:52am ^Your DW Journey
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My DW journey starts right back on DW1. When I got my PS1, I got 5 games with it, of which one was DW1. (The others were Street Racer, Worms, Rayman and Jersey Devil) I'd always liked 1v1 fighting games, so this was probably the one I played the most. I knew very little of the Han at the time, I didn't even know it was based on real events back then. Little did I know that I would still be playing this series some 14 years later.
So when I later got a PS2 I was looking through a selection of games at a store when I saw a Dynasty Warriors 2. The gameplay on the back didn't look familiar, but I had loved DW1 so I gave it a go. I really loved the massive amounts of hack and slash and spent many hours playing it. As I have probably said about 50 times over the years, the bodyguards in this game were amazing. It was frustrating that musou attacks didn't really combo well and with only a string of 4 attacks I did find it incredibly repetitive. Plus the amount of times I got Lu Bu down to low health only for another officer to knock him down so he would stand up and regain his hp I can't count. All the same, it was a thoroughly enjoyable game.
As a result, I got DW3 when I found it (which would have been mid '02) and was really impressed by the improved combos and comic dialogue. I then found Neoseeker and made a post as a guest asking why Pang Tong was a playable character when he was only on one map. I signed up a few days later. The amazing gameplay combined with the atmosphere of the DW3 forum means I have very fond memories. I got DW3:XL when it came out (not long before DW4 was out in the US) and really loved the extra hardest difficulty. The thing that set this apart from the hardest difficulties in other games was that you too could take a fair amount of punishment (if you had close to maxed defense) as well. The damage ratios in this game were by far the best in the series.
DW4 was a bit of a letdown for me because it was far too easy and there were fewer enemies to slash through. Also due to what I can only assume is a glitch, if you had a maxed defense, "glowing" enemies weren't able to cause you much damage. (Or their attacks had no stun, or both, I can't remember which) There was something you had to obtain by getting 1000 KOs on a map and I remember it taking an eternity despite letting all my team getting wiped out so I could farm gates for KOs. It left a fairly sour taste in my mouth after the enormous highs of DW3. I even preferred the annoyance of archers at Siege of He Fei Castle to the lack of challenge DW4 provided. DW4:XL was a bit tougher, but I didn't really invest too much time in it.
DW5 went some way to correcting these aspects, but the Musou Rage was way too overpowered for my liking. If you stored up a couple then it reduced what should have otherwise been tough battles (Lu Bu, boss of a map) to a very boring encounter. I was pleased to see some more difficult battles but this game set what I consider to be a lazy trend of difficulty. Anyone can simply ramp up the hp and damage done by enemy soldiers, that isn't necessarily a real increase in skilled difficulty. Unless you yourself have the ability to take some damage before being killed (sorry, knocked out ) then it largely reduces you to either charging through areas or picking people off in a much slower method. In DW3 you could charge in a bit and cause some chaos without dying in no time at all, this was not the case here. Still, it was a step up from DW4.
DW6 was a good attempt at their first PS3 game and I very much liked the ability to go through water. An enormous downside to this game was the moveset cloning however. Robbing characters of their individuality was a crazy decision to make. This basically meant you could be using one of several characters in combat and it would make next to no difference. I was really disappointed with this game overall because with little incentive to use many of the characters it significantly reduced the replay value.
DW7 corrected this combat system but made an equally ridiculous decision by removing the ability to use 2 players in story mode. I remember reading that the reason for this was because it wouldn't flow nicely with the cinematics but overall I can't believe they actually decided to go down this route. Conquest mode was fairly interesting, but that got fairly repetitive after a while as well, some more diverse missions would definitely have helped.
Along the way I played SW1, SW1:XL and SW2 too.
Overall I'm hoping DW8 will be at least as good as DW7. There are only so many ways you can tell what is basically the same story mind you.
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Dec 24, 12 at 8:06pm ^re: Your DW Journey
I missed out on the DW1 game, never saw it anywhere. Stumbled across DW2 shortly after getting my ps2 and thought it looked boss. Loved the game, loved the levels, loved the characters, and I think it got me into the whole ROTK period in general. Also I loved the few videos the game had, especially the coalition one with Yuan Shao "Grrraaaaaaanddd Commmaaaaannnndddeerrrr".
From there I got DW3, which would be one of my favorite games of all time especially due to having two player. The levels were all amazing and with loads of new characters and weapons and costumes it was just a massive step up. And the archers.. My god.. The archers.. Dudes were just deadly, take off half a bar easy in one volley. Made Yi Ling and He Fei Castle super fun. DW3XL was absolute beast too with the Dynasty Tactics Lu Bu armor and music.
DW4-5 were good games, carrying on the good work, and I think this was the first Empires expansion too?
By DW6 I was losing interest. The peons were far too weak and died in droves from one dash attack. Even if you put it on high difficulty all it seemed to do was massively increase their attack stats so they can kill you in three hits. I think they got the balance way off on how strong everything should be. The clones were awful and that's what really ruined it for me, I don't even think I unlocked Ma Chao in this one, got too sick of replaying the same movesets over and over.
DW7 was better, but after 6 I just wasn't too into it. Did the story mode and got maybe halfway through conquest mode with a friend before we gave up, just isn't the same as doing story modes together.
Overall I'd prefer the SW series now (I have 1,2 and 2:Empires), if only because they were all good games and the story modes I found much better. No clones either.
I also have Dynasty Tactics 1 and 2 which were good fun. Perfect for someone who's into the period and likes strategy games. And I got ROTK8 on my ps2 and ROTK11 on my pc which are very different again and I still play from time to time.
Think that's about it!
Credit to SXH!
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Jan 2, 13 at 4:49pm ^re: Your DW Journey
Started with DW1 which my friend lent me, i ended up buying the game from him.
Got to DW 2 after seeing my friend play it. Didnt stop playing it until DW3 came out! That i can safely say i 100% well and truly beat!
I got 3XL, DT and Kessen 2 all at once and my god i was hooked even further!
Then 4 came along and i hated it! i mean every part of it!
didnt bother with 4XL or empires i was so disgusted lol!
DT2 was my next purchase and it kinda sucked, the only good thing was being able to start as lu lb. I started fearing the worst.
5 came out and THANKFULLY it wasn't a bad game at all! I'd hadn't had this much fun in years!
Finally bought empires and it blew me away but became far too easy after playing it for a month!
Played 6 but never bought it, thought it was a shocking game, just as sucky as 4.
Got 6 empires, it was too bad but every officer under the sun kept defecting and i couldnt understand why.
Bought 7 had so much fun! loved the stories + new characters. no free mode was poor! Having to pay for half assed DLC shouldnt be allowed!
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Jan 4, 13 at 11:26am ^re: Your DW Journey
I first encountered DW on one of those old demo discs; DW3 Nanman stage, which I ended up playing quite a few times (first character I played was Huang Gai... ew... switched to Zhao Yun immediately after the first play, with Zhen Ji being the only other option available). That lead to DW3 being bought, which definitely became one of my most played games of all time. Back then, I tended to play it multiplayer, with my brother taking a liking to Xiahou Dun (and thus Wei), my good friend SSX (and thus Wu) and myself Zhao Yun (and thus Shu), so it all worked out rather well; good times!
Naturally DW4 followed which I enjoyed, but not as much as 3 and it didn't have the longevity/replay-ability that 3 did either. It did solidify my adoration of Zhang Liao, who was my favourite in that game.
Loved DW5; back on the right path from 4 and it kept me playing for a long while, with it likely only being due to it usually playing it by myself that it didn't go on for as long as 3 did. Zhao Yun again returned as a firm favourite, joined by Zhu Rong, all of which worked up into another of my favourite games of all time.
I did also get DW2 at the same time as 5 which was good fun to play through.
The Dynasty Tactics games also became favourites; something completely different in gameplay but on the same subject matter was perfect in adding variety and depth to what I'd already played. Lots of love went to Deng Ai from those - he having such great stats yet not being playable in DW made him stand out to me. The character stats, roles and overall story lines in those still hold quite a bit of sway in terms of how I see people now. Can't remember exactly when they showed up in comparison to the DW games, but it must've been around those and the DW5 stage that I ended up looking into the 3 kingdoms era further, reading the novel online (and eventually getting my own copy a few years back). Zhao Yun, Zhang Liao, Deng Ai, Lu Meng all standing out as being particularly epic and interesting characters.
The cutting of characters, cloning, and reduction of story mode people in DW6 lead to me skipping it altogether. I did get Empires in the end to give the renbu system a try out and such like, which was ok, but I still prefer the combo chain stuff.
In place of DW6, I got WO and WO2, both of which I played a whole lot and really enjoyed, and it was through those that I came across Neo in the first place (the little WO community we had has still been one of the greatest I've come across), and from that also got SW2. I think I'll always stay loyal to the Chinese crew in general, but SW is good fun too.
Then DW7 showed up, with all of the build up looking so much more promising than 6. It wasn't perfect by any means, but very much put the series back on the right track for me, and for the first time, I thought the story telling itself was really well done. Conquest Mode could've used some work, but it still kept me playing right through to game completion and I then got XL too, still wanting more, which I had good fun with too.
Therefore with DW8 seeming to be very much a follow up built on 7, I'm very much looking forward to it, and am hopeful that it'll be one of the best of the DW games out there!
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Feb 1, 13 at 4:48pm ^re: Your DW Journey
Oh god this is going back. Compared to you guys I came in reasonably late; DW4 was already in shops by that time, and I remember going round to my mates who showed me DW3XL, where we smashed. My youngest was 12 at the time and his daughter was 14. For some reason after seeing Zhu Rong and her massive boobs and Zhen Ji, the two had a slightly worrying stage where the two would "lez off" by tapping block and trying to get the two characters to hump each other. Still the two did go to an all girls school courtesy of my position and my mates (both senior Sergeants in the RM at the time).
I myself had brilliant fun with the movie maker on it, (Meng Huo doing the dancing scene!) and soon after completing 3XL, I located 3, and shortly after 4. By the time. I finished 3XL at normal, and learned how to get the 4th weapons I made a concious effort to do that. Taishi Ci, Wei Yan and Cao Cao were my favourite, Cao Cao's C6 attack and Wei Yan for his double voulge (another computer game Kingdom Under Fire Gold for the PC had a character with a similar weapon who could summon Dragons; yes I liked that shit), and TC for his Dual Rods. Sun Ce, Gan Ning, Ma Chao, Xu Huang, Zhang Liao and Zhang Fei became firm favourites. I would later start to collect the 5ths, one of which I got completely by accident. However, endless training was done on the Yellow Turban Bamdit Village level, it was easy to do in about 5 minutes and gave you something daft like 5 weapon drops (only 3rds, but they were like 4th weapon quality stats), and 5 stat ups +4. An hour of that got me like 240 up on one stat, as well as easy Musuo and Health +120. And very fond memories of VHard Archer hordes, and Maxed Archer Bodyguards on support getting huge kills. I seriously remember playing medium Hu Lao Gate, and only got one kill; Dong Zhuo. Mega fun.
Then I went to 4, and got 4XL, played through tgat, loved CAW, and made it my mission to get all 5ths. Loved the duels, and the better horse combat, hated the jumping charges. The orbs were cracking, although I hated Death status weapon orb being nerfed, until I realised that it was fixed by 4th weapons. Blast Orb remained my favourite. Zhou Tai was my favourite; his Golden 'Shredder' ninja outfit, and sword and cape made him Instawin in my eyes, and his C6+True Musou was pure win. Cao Ren wouldn't become liked until 5, and Yue Ying is forgettable.
The Level 11 weapons were gorgeous. Ma Chaos was amazing.
Never got empires, but picked up Tactics 2, but never really got into it as I was shipped out around this time a lot, and the rest of my time was either training or making sure I spent a lot of time with my family; Iraq was getting messy, and I was getting involved in some fairly lairy ops, but it paid off and got me a cushty promotion, straight to Warrant Officer after they had a definite need of them following recent loss in manpower due to security contractors offering megabucks.
Then came 5, and 5XL, and Empires, my Wife decided to treat me too video games for a coming home present and found these (my daughters play tested these to make sure they worked, haha. No "lez offs" this time though!) on my bed. played through them, and completed them; CAW on Empires was by far my favourite, and XL with the lack of 5ths was among the worst decisions ever. However, Cao Ren and Zhang Fei stood out as epic in my eyes, by far my favourites. Pang De joined my favourites; Ling tong was a whiny twat, but on account of Xjng Cai being a 14 year old I couldn't get into hwr (bad choice of words, mayhaps?), but CAW remedied that. I loved the bases more in this one though. Empires was the cream of that Series.
I then got myself a PSP (1st Gen), and got DW psp, which was the first one, using the DW4 models. Played on one flight out to Afghanistan, and I've still not used it since.
Afghanistan became a break in gaming, as I was now one of the most senior men with actual operatiomal experience, and was palmed off on SF liaison and also was tasked with Helicopter liaison (I had gone for training but was struck out twice on one test, due to my size and old reflexes playing me up); this was heavily demanding stuff, and I was working 21 hour days for 3-4 months at a time. After than I said I wanted a desk job and came back home to supervise training of new recruits then went off to work security.
Last job I earned was on a BG work and went om Saga cruise ship; so typically old fuddy duddies ex-business men livong their well furnished retirement. Got paid to be chatted up by a load of the ships showgirls, who being at 44 years old and still clearly fit, was about the most available bit of fun on the entire cruise for them.
So, between that "work" and getting paid more in a month than I did a year in the military, I tend to just sit at home and do a bit of this and that. I didn't get 6, but got 7, and completed it, and made an attempt an Platinum (trophies are the best thing since sliced bread IMHO), but got tired of maxing relationships on the same mission over and over; however I still play woth my daughters occasionally (they both have PS3 's at uni, amd rather than Skype they show me up on Call of Duty and Battlefield and Dynasty Warriors). They don't seem to have Boyfiends last very long when they are getting twatted in CoD, oddly enough. Something to do with Tea Bagging.
I hope to pick up 7XL and 7E soon though, before 8 drops. One thing I didn't like was the new characters with the overall OTT toy weapons, although Deng Ai was pretty cool, the yoyo and flying swords were retarded additions, but Zhang Fei getting Wei Yans double weapon and losing his C6 from DW5 was disappointing.
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