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uber303 member: postin' posse total posts: 500 since: Nov 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 7:32am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	Log in to remove this advertisement quote LvG4M3R quote uber303 quote LvG4M3R Some ppl are profession douches lol and some people are numpties each to their own Lol, what must you be lacking to jump on this post so fast, I feel bad for ya haha, you carry on feeling bad and i'll carry on blah blah blah
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Gatt_5_u99 forum junky total posts: 99 since: Jan 2013 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 7:36am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote losingatcards quote xAngelusMortisx quote nickotone42 quote xAngelusMortisx Last training was Friday after raid so it's not as if it wasn't expected And was rushed, unexpected, and unnecessary. I wish they would learn from their mistakes. I don't see how having training start now is a mistake. Not being ready for training may be a mistake but that's not the games fault. Are you advocating the position that going from "coming soon" to "it's here, by the way alliance functionality is off" literally overnight is somehow okay? With no warning? Not everyone participated in the last training, or remembers the exact parameters of two-three events ago, or even had an account set up then. I was negotiating a move to a new alliance, and I was also building up my new cards and, you know, working and being a family member and having a social life. You say I "should have known" to prioritize moving alliances because I "should have expected" alliance functionality to be turned off without warning? It's like if you were in school and you know there's going to be a midterm exam at some point, but it isn't scheduled on the course syllabus. Then suddenly the professor emails you "Hey the midterm will be tomorrow, by the way I've removed all course materials and lecture notes from the school's website so hope you are randomly ready!" Yes, I am saying "Coming soon" will always precede "its here". Its is literally the meaning of soon. soon Pronunciation (sn) adv. soon·er, soon·est 1. In the near future; shortly. 2. Without hesitation; promptly: came as soon as possible. 3. Before the usual or appointed time; early. 4. With willingness; readily: I'd as soon leave right now. 5. Obsolete Immediately. After soon is now. Your text argument is way flawed. It isnt like that at all. It more like you have a professor who holds on a regularly predictable pattern, the first of the month for example. Then a week before the first, he tells you, "you have an exam soon." Everyone knows its the 1st, people are talking about it, people are preparing, study groups are formed and most are prepared. Then the first comes around and you show up to class and he tells you to put away your text. That is what this is like. You had warning... you knew it was coming... you made the correct choice to spend that time with your family/work/porn. Do not be that guy who stand up in class and says "this isnt fair".
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uber303 member: postin' posse total posts: 500 since: Nov 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 7:45am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote Gatt_5_u99 quote losingatcards quote xAngelusMortisx quote nickotone42 quote xAngelusMortisx Last training was Friday after raid so it's not as if it wasn't expected And was rushed, unexpected, and unnecessary. I wish they would learn from their mistakes. I don't see how having training start now is a mistake. Not being ready for training may be a mistake but that's not the games fault. Are you advocating the position that going from "coming soon" to "it's here, by the way alliance functionality is off" literally overnight is somehow okay? With no warning? Not everyone participated in the last training, or remembers the exact parameters of two-three events ago, or even had an account set up then. I was negotiating a move to a new alliance, and I was also building up my new cards and, you know, working and being a family member and having a social life. You say I "should have known" to prioritize moving alliances because I "should have expected" alliance functionality to be turned off without warning? It's like if you were in school and you know there's going to be a midterm exam at some point, but it isn't scheduled on the course syllabus. Then suddenly the professor emails you "Hey the midterm will be tomorrow, by the way I've removed all course materials and lecture notes from the school's website so hope you are randomly ready!" Yes, I am saying "Coming soon" will always precede "its here". Its is literally the meaning of soon. soon Pronunciation (sn) adv. soon·er, soon·est 1. In the near future; shortly. 2. Without hesitation; promptly: came as soon as possible. 3. Before the usual or appointed time; early. 4. With willingness; readily: I'd as soon leave right now. 5. Obsolete Immediately. After soon is now. Your text argument is way flawed. It isnt like that at all. It more like you have a professor who holds on a regularly predictable pattern, the first of the month for example. Then a week before the first, he tells you, "you have an exam soon." Everyone knows its the 1st, people are talking about it, people are preparing, study groups are formed and most are prepared. Then the first comes around and you show up to class and he tells you to put away your text. That is what this is like. You had warning... you knew it was coming... you made the correct choice to spend that time with your family/work/porn. Do not be that guy who stand up in class and says "this isnt fair". exactly [RANT] all people do on here is whinge and moan cos either... a) they havent got their shit together b) they fail to get the cards they want. Either accept its a part of the game or bleep off and stop boring us all with this bullshit. [Rant over]
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nickotone42 starting to like it total posts: 66 since: Dec 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 9:51am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	I seem to recall that the last training had a start date listed somewhere. Days in advance. We were all pissed that they hadn't given out rewards and started a training session before they were handed out. Everyone got the rewards yesterday so you have less than a day to max, master, fuse, and max/master again? Maxing doesn't take the time but mastering does. So we get two events in a two week period followed by a two-three week hiatus? What would be the harm of pushing the start date till next week, or at least putting an actual start date so we can fully prepare our decks. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has several cards i planned on using, but are severally lacking in m/m.
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freshlookweb forum junky total posts: 98 since: Jan 2013 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 9:58am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote losingatcards quote xAngelusMortisx quote nickotone42 quote xAngelusMortisx Last training was Friday after raid so it's not as if it wasn't expected And was rushed, unexpected, and unnecessary. I wish they would learn from their mistakes. I don't see how having training start now is a mistake. Not being ready for training may be a mistake but that's not the games fault. Are you advocating the position that going from "coming soon" to "it's here, by the way alliance functionality is off" literally overnight is somehow okay? With no warning? Not everyone participated in the last training, or remembers the exact parameters of two-three events ago, or even had an account set up then. I was negotiating a move to a new alliance, and I was also building up my new cards and, you know, working and being a family member and having a social life. You say I "should have known" to prioritize moving alliances because I "should have expected" alliance functionality to be turned off without warning? It's like if you were in school and you know there's going to be a midterm exam at some point, but it isn't scheduled on the course syllabus. Then suddenly the professor emails you "Hey the midterm will be tomorrow, by the way I've removed all course materials and lecture notes from the school's website so hope you are randomly ready!" ^This
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xAngelusMortisx just getting started! total posts: 117 since: Dec 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 10:02am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote nickotone42 I seem to recall that the last training had a start date listed somewhere. Days in advance. We were all pissed that they hadn't given out rewards and started a training session before they were handed out. Everyone got the rewards yesterday so you have less than a day to max, master, fuse, and max/master again? Maxing doesn't take the time but mastering does. So we get two events in a two week period followed by a two-three week hiatus? What would be the harm of pushing the start date till next week, or at least putting an actual start date so we can fully prepare our decks. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has several cards i planned on using, but are severally lacking in m/m. I got a ur surfer an ssr panther and almost another panther done. If you attack the right people mastering is easy and if they didn't give you enough time then listing a starting date wouldn't have helped. The trainings have started Fridays so if it says coming soon you should just expect it to start that Friday.
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nickotone42 starting to like it total posts: 66 since: Dec 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 10:14am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	Yes but now I have to spend attack to master and not in training
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Gatt_5_u99 forum junky total posts: 99 since: Jan 2013 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 11:28am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	I tried to be nice, but in reality it comes down to this: If you are relying on panthers to make or break this event for you.... you have already lost. Sure its easy to say "I have a life I cant level and mm in such a short amount of time" but guess what... everyone was at the same disadvantage. Those who put the work in, deserve to be ahead. Those who didnt (for however valid the reason) do not deserve to be on an equal footing. Here are some hard facts for you: Life is not fair. You are not special or unique. You are not the best at anything. You do not deserve to have things given to you. You are not entitled. The same mentality that spawned no child left behind only weakens the children who would excel. Get over yourself
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nickotone42 starting to like it total posts: 66 since: Dec 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 11:43am ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote Gatt_5_u99 I tried to be nice, but in reality it comes down to this: If you are relying on panthers to make or break this event for you.... you have already lost. Sure its easy to say "I have a life I cant level and mm in such a short amount of time" but guess what... everyone was at the same disadvantage. Those who put the work in, deserve to be ahead. Those who didnt (for however valid the reason) do not deserve to be on an equal footing. Here are some hard facts for you: Life is not fair. You are not special or unique. You are not the best at anything. You do not deserve to have things given to you. You are not entitled. The same mentality that spawned no child left behind only weakens the children who would excel. Get over yourself wow just wow. it's a) a game and b) a game with flaws. The quick turn around on the previous training was a problem that was theorized to be as a result to the amount of pp given in the previous raid. Perhaps that's why they did this one so close to the end of the last raid (4 days). It's a problem I hope they fix. 4 days is not enough time to properly m/m a deck, especially when rewards where given out 24 hours ago. And most are either keeping or trading. I wish they would put a premium on training as opposed to raids.
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losingatcards not-such-a-newbie total posts: 42 since: Jan 2013 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 1:41pm ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote Gatt_5_u99 Yes, I am saying "Coming soon" will always precede "its here". Its is literally the meaning of soon. soon Pronunciation (sn) adv. soon·er, soon·est 1. In the near future; shortly. 2. Without hesitation; promptly: came as soon as possible. 3. Before the usual or appointed time; early. 4. With willingness; readily: I'd as soon leave right now. 5. Obsolete Immediately. After soon is now. Your text argument is way flawed. It isnt like that at all. It more like you have a professor who holds on a regularly predictable pattern, the first of the month for example. Then a week before the first, he tells you, "you have an exam soon." Everyone knows its the 1st, people are talking about it, people are preparing, study groups are formed and most are prepared. Then the first comes around and you show up to class and he tells you to put away your text. That is what this is like. You had warning... you knew it was coming... you made the correct choice to spend that time with your family/work/porn. Do not be that guy who stand up in class and says "this isnt fair". That "it's here" follows "coming soon" wasn't put into question. The problem is that "soon" is an indefinite concept. The problem is that they turned off the ability to move alliances at the same time they first made a hard announcement of the start date. If the banner can say "Coming Soon!" it can certainly say "Coming Feb. 1!" Then people who don't play this obsessively and/or have perfect recollection of events months ago can know to properly prepare, and prioritize alliance repositioning for the event. And God forbid you're a new player who wasn't around for the last training to know when it starts, right? You are correct that I am saying "this isn't fair," because it isn't. One prior example does not constitute a "predictable pattern." Yes the last training happened to start roughly within the same time frame as this event, but the previous training was met with concern that it was rushed and unnecessary. This game is very young, and it takes far more than one example to create a predictable pattern (and this applies in anything). Even if "the Friday after the end of the raid" is the new paradigm for training start times, they need to make that knowledge easily accessible to everyone. Even people who weren't around for prior events. FF Raid was plagued with blackscreens and connection errors that left the game unplayable for many people for hours at a time. By your logic, these happened once before, so are these issues to be a "predictable pattern" for raids and we should just expect them...and take them lying down because we could have "predicted" them?
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uber303 member: postin' posse total posts: 500 since: Nov 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 1:46pm ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	with all the rally points and silver, and clever mastery skills you should be able to get base ssr's fused and at full power in a matter of hours, esp when using old raiders as boosters as well. dont blame the developers for your own shortcomings, work around the obstacles rather than just complain about them. yeah my wall cards arent ready but my atk deck is, that was my priority and its sorted. multi tasking, improve your tactics and you'll do better. or just whinge and complain and get left behind, your choice
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uber303 member: postin' posse total posts: 500 since: Nov 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 2:02pm ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote losingatcards FF Raid was plagued with blackscreens and connection errors that left the game unplayable for many people for hours at a time. By your logic, these happened once before, so are these issues to be a "predictable pattern" for raids and we should just expect them...and take them lying down because we could have "predicted" them? yes, the raid events are always glitchy in the first few days
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nickotone42 starting to like it total posts: 66 since: Dec 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 3:14pm ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote uber303 with all the rally points and silver, and clever mastery skills you should be able to get base ssr's fused and at full power in a matter of hours, esp when using old raiders as boosters as well. dont blame the developers for your own shortcomings, work around the obstacles rather than just complain about them. yeah my wall cards arent ready but my atk deck is, that was my priority and its sorted. multi tasking, improve your tactics and you'll do better. or just whinge and complain and get left behind, your choice Clearly we can not point out the game's shortcomings. And what if i traded my base SSRs I received yesterday for a base UR or I'm fusing into a UR+ and want to focus on raising ability level so i take my time with boosting and try and not jump 20 levels at a time. This also doesn't take into account that mastering that would take 30 battles at a min.(getting the max 5 points per) So i burn PP just so that I can get'r done? The last event was rushed (and i still think there was a hard date set prior to them saying go go go) and this one is as well. They wanted to show off that shiny new interface so badly
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uber303 member: postin' posse total posts: 500 since: Nov 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 3:31pm ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote nickotone42 quote uber303 with all the rally points and silver, and clever mastery skills you should be able to get base ssr's fused and at full power in a matter of hours, esp when using old raiders as boosters as well. dont blame the developers for your own shortcomings, work around the obstacles rather than just complain about them. yeah my wall cards arent ready but my atk deck is, that was my priority and its sorted. multi tasking, improve your tactics and you'll do better. or just whinge and complain and get left behind, your choice Clearly we can not point out the game's shortcomings. And what if i traded my base SSRs I received yesterday for a base UR or I'm fusing into a UR+ and want to focus on raising ability level so i take my time with boosting and try and not jump 20 levels at a time. This also doesn't take into account that mastering that would take 30 battles at a min.(getting the max 5 points per) So i burn PP just so that I can get'r done? The last event was rushed (and i still think there was a hard date set prior to them saying go go go) and this one is as well. They wanted to show off that shiny new interface so badly i got ur+ juggs mastered in less than a day without burning any pp, granted i have an alt to use with 130 atk to use as well, but still you dont need to burn pp to master your cards, if you got 200atk points you should be able to get at least 35 mastery in one sitting for a UR+, i also got it up to ability lvl 3 using only farmed cards from operation 2. fact is theres always more resourceful and efficient ways to play the game, the better you are at these fundamental aspects to the game, the better prepared youre going to be in events
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xAngelusMortisx just getting started! total posts: 117 since: Dec 2012 (+0 / -0)	Feb 01, 13 at 3:51pm ^ re: 8 Hours Notice...
	quote Gatt_5_u99 I tried to be nice, but in reality it comes down to this: If you are relying on panthers to make or break this event for you.... you have already lost. Sure its easy to say "I have a life I cant level and mm in such a short amount of time" but guess what... everyone was at the same disadvantage. Those who put the work in, deserve to be ahead. Those who didnt (for however valid the reason) do not deserve to be on an equal footing. Here are some hard facts for you: Life is not fair. You are not special or unique. You are not the best at anything. You do not deserve to have things given to you. You are not entitled. The same mentality that spawned no child left behind only weakens the children who would excel. Get over yourself You can actually do pretty well with wall breakers if you have the attack power
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