general Jeenx Pro Trading Guide ~ All Card Values Listed for Reference. Updated 5/17/2013. Onslaught and Sinister Reviews! - Page 40

quote truscorpio

Please post examples of where I contradict myself. More than likely you're misunderstanding something. If I "picked" on anybody it was tied to a thread other than this one.

Facts here. Jeenx lied and admitted to this but hasn't stated why he admitted to this. HIs prices are not reflective of what the top alliances are seeing trades executed at and others have speculated this is a way for him to manipulate the market. His knowledge of this game and of rage of bahamut is rather poor for somebody writing a "pro" guide. He repeatedly shows that he doesn't understand basic concepts like how pints are scored. He doesn't understand why defense isn't a useful attribute in against an equivalent alliance and he doesn't even seem to grasp the concept that lower level players score more points than higher level players even when the math is thrown right in his face. He even went so far as to state that lockout doesn't exist anymore but it was available in the last training. If I contradicted myself then jeenx has done far worse far more often.

quote truscorpio

quote jeenx

quote truscorpio

Please post examples of where I contradict myself. More than likely you're misunderstanding something. If I "picked" on anybody it was tied to a thread other than this one.

Facts here. Jeenx lied and admitted to this but hasn't stated why he admitted to this. HIs prices are not reflective of what the top alliances are seeing trades executed at and others have speculated this is a way for him to manipulate the market. His knowledge of this game and of rage of bahamut is rather poor for somebody writing a "pro" guide. He repeatedly shows that he doesn't understand basic concepts like how pints are scored. He doesn't understand why defense isn't a useful attribute in against an equivalent alliance and he doesn't even seem to grasp the concept that lower level players score more points than higher level players even when the math is thrown right in his face. He even went so far as to state that lockout doesn't exist anymore but it was available in the last training. If I contradicted myself then jeenx has done far worse far more often.

Seriously, guy....

You really want to start this flaming war all over again? It has been quiet and peaceful for some time on this thread until you choose to discredit me again. Not only that, another played called you out for contradicting yourself and your knee-jerk reaction is spending the entire post going off on a tangent trying to bash me instead.

How ridiculous can you get?

Truscorpio keeps talking about "top alliances" like he is in the same league as them. He is not. He has yet to even crack the top 15.

Why are we letting this junior varsity scrub criticize the varsity players? Be good and sit on the bench until you prove that you can join the big leagues. Maybe then you should be allowed to debate what real "top players" think about card values. You certainly are not one of them and you should not speak for them. It's okay to have an opinion on card values but you act like you know how top players value cards without actually being a top player.

You are a failure at predicting card values because it is the one thing all your math cannot do. You don't understand the human element enough to be giving advice on card values. Good leaders know when to lead and know when to follow. You should not be leading when it comes to card values. Stick to your math and go do proc rate testing or something useful instead of sticking your nose in an area you do not understand.

Like I said, I will score 100,000-120,000 individual points on Truscorpio, no hacks, no cheats, all legit and will post the screenshot in my guide when next wars come out.

Truscorpio will try to be a coward and use lockout vs my alliance. Too bad lockout does not exist. Talk about failure to understand the game.......

It said in the rules last training that it does exist. Unless the training changes to match rage rules its impossible for you to score 100k points on a single player the limit is 100 attacks and I already posted how many points you will score per attack thats assuming that I'm at max defense each attack. Regardless for you to score that many points on me alone will cost you a LOT of PP.

The other person simply stated I contradicted myself but hasn't shown an example of it. I assume its much like your examples or heretohelps examples where you misunderstood what was said.

So jeenx what ranking would qualify me to talk about you and talk about top alliances? On rage top 20 was already regarded as the elite alliances. The cost for us to make top 10 last training would've been 25 pp and we decided it really wasn't worth the cost to gamble on another SR pack when most sr's are difficult sells at 2pp or even 1 pp. Bad investment but I guess you wouldn't understand that because you're willing to try and score 100k points on a single player that was 14 levels below you. I just checked and you leveled up some more that puts you at 267 rounding up for max points on me if I'm not an attack lead or 293 points if I'm an attack lead. That again assumes you're running a full iron man or spiderman deck. Less points if you run a weaker deck. Assuming you're able to attack twice with your current build and assuming that I'm always at 100% defense and forgetting that lockout exists that would mean you would need to do spend 187pp. Which is again amusing since chaos thoery kicked you out on your ass for not being willing to burn PP and carry your own weight. Now if I were to attack you the least I can get is 352 rounded down more likely 353 If you're a defense lead I get 387. But more than likely I'll be attacking your level 100 people. With your current order leader I'd score 437 points. Any level 100 attack/defense leads I'll score 440. Any just random level 100 people I'll score 402 minimum. So I can score 100k points in 125 PP rounding up and assuming I have no attack points coming into the battle. So assuming you attack only me that means you'll be spending an extra $50 roughly to score the same points as me. You write a "pro" guide on trading to make sure people don't get screwed yet you're willing to screw yourself over. Honestly there's a good chance I won't attack at all just to watch you spend even more PP. Provided no additional changes my points will actually bottom out at about 80 points. Which would mean jeenx would need to spend around 600ppto score 100k against me. Again assuming the lockout doesn't exist.

So lets recap here. You lied about testing iron man's boost. You have prices that don't reflect the prices the top order chaos theory is trading at. My opinions, points, statements are invalidated because my alliance has only finished top 18 and 21 in the first two trainings and only 15th in the xmen raid and I've only finished top 40 personal in both trainings which incidentally is higher than jeenx has finished. By your logic wouldn't my opinions and statements be more valid since I have shown I'm able to outscore you significantly? By your logic shouldn't you be invalidated because somebody in an alliance "much lower" than yours is outscoring you and doing it with less PP spent too? So by your logic if I accepted the offer and joined dragon balls would my opinion suddenly be more valid? If I joined chaos theory would my opinion suddenly be more valid?

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quote truscorpio

quote jeenx

quote truscorpio

Please post examples of where I contradict myself. More than likely you're misunderstanding something. If I "picked" on anybody it was tied to a thread other than this one.

Facts here. Jeenx lied and admitted to this but hasn't stated why he admitted to this. HIs prices are not reflective of what the top alliances are seeing trades executed at and others have speculated this is a way for him to manipulate the market. His knowledge of this game and of rage of bahamut is rather poor for somebody writing a "pro" guide. He repeatedly shows that he doesn't understand basic concepts like how pints are scored. He doesn't understand why defense isn't a useful attribute in against an equivalent alliance and he doesn't even seem to grasp the concept that lower level players score more points than higher level players even when the math is thrown right in his face. He even went so far as to state that lockout doesn't exist anymore but it was available in the last training. If I contradicted myself then jeenx has done far worse far more often.

Seriously, guy....

You really want to start this flaming war all over again? It has been quiet and peaceful for some time on this thread until you choose to discredit me again. Not only that, another played called you out for contradicting yourself and your knee-jerk reaction is spending the entire post going off on a tangent trying to bash me instead.

How ridiculous can you get?

Truscorpio keeps talking about "top alliances" like he is in the same league as them. He is not. He has yet to even crack the top 15.

Why are we letting this junior varsity scrub criticize the varsity players? Be good and sit on the bench until you prove that you can join the big leagues. Maybe then you should be allowed to debate what real "top players" think about card values. You certainly are not one of them and you should not speak for them. It's okay to have an opinion on card values but you act like you know how top players value cards without actually being a top player.

You are a failure at predicting card values because it is the one thing all your math cannot do. You don't understand the human element enough to be giving advice on card values. Good leaders know when to lead and know when to follow. You should not be leading when it comes to card values. Stick to your math and go do proc rate testing or something useful instead of sticking your nose in an area you do not understand.

Like I said, I will score 100,000-120,000 individual points on Truscorpio, no hacks, no cheats, all legit and will post the screenshot in my guide when next wars come out.

Truscorpio will try to be a coward and use lockout vs my alliance. Too bad lockout does not exist. Talk about failure to understand the game.......

It said in the rules last training that it does exist. Unless the training changes to match rage rules its impossible for you to score 100k points on a single player the limit is 100 attacks and I already posted how many points you will score per attack thats assuming that I'm at max defense each attack. Regardless for you to score that many points on me alone will cost you a LOT of PP.

The other person simply stated I contradicted myself but hasn't shown an example of it. I assume its much like your examples or heretohelps examples where you misunderstood what was said.

So jeenx what ranking would qualify me to talk about you and talk about top alliances? On rage top 20 was already regarded as the elite alliances. The cost for us to make top 10 last training would've been 25 pp and we decided it really wasn't worth the cost to gamble on another SR pack when most sr's are difficult sells at 2pp or even 1 pp. Bad investment but I guess you wouldn't understand that because you're willing to try and score 100k points on a single player that was 14 levels below you. I just checked and you leveled up some more that puts you at 267 rounding up for max points on me if I'm not an attack lead or 293 points if I'm an attack lead. That again assumes you're running a full iron man or spiderman deck. Less points if you run a weaker deck. Assuming you're able to attack twice with your current build and assuming that I'm always at 100% defense and forgetting that lockout exists that would mean you would need to do spend 187pp. Which is again amusing since chaos thoery kicked you out on your ass for not being willing to burn PP and carry your own weight. Now if I were to attack you the least I can get is 352 rounded down more likely 353 If you're a defense lead I get 387. But more than likely I'll be attacking your level 100 people. With your current order leader I'd score 437 points. Any level 100 attack/defense leads I'll score 440. Any just random level 100 people I'll score 402 minimum. So I can score 100k points in 125 PP rounding up and assuming I have no attack points coming into the battle. So assuming you attack only me that means you'll be spending an extra $50 roughly to score the same points as me. You write a "pro" guide on trading to make sure people don't get screwed yet you're willing to screw yourself over. Honestly there's a good chance I won't attack at all just to watch you spend even more PP. Provided no additional changes my points will actually bottom out at about 80 points. Which would mean jeenx would need to spend around 600ppto score 100k against me. Again assuming the lockout doesn't exist.

So lets recap here. You lied about testing iron man's boost. You have prices that don't reflect the prices the top order chaos theory is trading at. My opinions, points, statements are invalidated because my alliance has only finished top 18 and 21 in the first two trainings and only 15th in the xmen raid and I've only finished top 40 personal in both trainings which incidentally is higher than jeenx has finished. By your logic wouldn't my opinions and statements be more valid since I have shown I'm able to outscore you significantly? By your logic shouldn't you be invalidated because somebody in an alliance "much lower" than yours is outscoring you and doing it with less PP spent too? So by your logic if I accepted the offer and joined dragon balls would my opinion suddenly be more valid? If I joined chaos theory would my opinion suddenly be more valid?

Haha, I love it! Keep the ignorance coming. You talk about Chaos Theory but you were never there. You only have 1 side of the story. It makes you sound like a total tool whenever you try to act like you are in the top player's inner circle. Truscorpio = instant punchline when mentioned.

I love reading your KIK conversations about how you intend to use lockout vs GTFO. Good luck not getting smashed by us. It might actually be a great battle if you didn't try to exploit not leveling. Technically, you should be penalized for purposely staying a low level. Use your coward technique somewhere else please.

First you accuse me of manipulating the market for personal gain. Next, you say I'm inefficient, going to waste 50 more PP than you in a head to head battle? Get your stories straight. If I was truly manipulating the market for gain do you think I would care about using 50 extra PP at all? Please make more accusations. I get a good laugh here and there.

Finally, see picture below and then ask yourself how you even have a chance.....

When I put up 100k vs you, please take a screenshot and make it your avatar as a gentle reminder.