quote truscorpio
quote HereToHelp
Now, I know that loses weren't considered a big deal in the last event because there wasn't a major penalty for losing....but....
There was absolutely no penalty for losing in this war. Why do you not understand this?
Umm...how about not getting 1500 bonus points? soo i guess missing out on 1500 x 52 = 78,000 potential points doesn't constitute as anything significant? Oh that's right, you don't care about team valor, you only care about your own.... Either you fail to grasp the concept that the losing team lost out on free alliance valor points or you are just arguing semantics with me to be a d-bag.... Jeenx said her alliance won 60 something battles. Guess what? 90,000 valor points for the team.. Is losing out on that many points not considered "not a major penalty for losing"?
quote truscorpio
As I mentioned above losses were intentional. Since there was no penalty for losing and there never is in any war/training people will declare war every chance they get. This allows some of the weaker players to score points needed to qualify for rewards. In the majority of the losses we spent 0 pp. In the majority of the wins we actually spent zero pp to be honest. PP was only spent when it was efficient. If I spent pp we scored at least 18k points usually 25-40k points. You also seem to imply everybody in the alliance has an optimal build and they don't. Right now I'm the only one who went that route but after people saw results a few have started new accounts and are working on them and will add them to the alliance to replace their current accounts. Not required nor suggested by myself just obervation based on the points I was getting and they were getting.
So basically, you would crack the d-lead in one hit right? and then half of you would get off 1 or 2 attacks to get some valor and then start regenning as quick as possible without using any pp. Since I'm guessing you guys used more than 60 attack points per attack and started a battle soon after the first, the guys who attacked in the first battle would sit out a battle while the other half got off their 1 attack after someone else cracked the d-lead in 1 hit (remember you used full attack and probably have to wait around 150 minutes to fully regen without using pp)
And then the battles you won, you carried your alliance by getting 20k valor all by yourself.. Sounds reasonable... (i need a eye rolling smiley to go here)
quote truscorpio
quote HereToHelp
quote truscorpio
Why would you attack when you get 33% less points attacking basically anybody else?
Why not attack you with my partial deck and still get points when I don't have a full attack left? What about all the lower level people that can attack you and beat you and score easy points?
Your potential points are based on your attack stat. Attacking me with a partial deck doesn't change the amount of points you can get. Lets say you have an attack power of 160 and you attack me with 5 legend spiderman cards and it says you'll get 180 points for this attack. If you then split it up and attacked me with 1 legend spiderman card you would get 36 points not 180 points. After you attacked me 5 times you would still have 180 ponts. Why are you even argueing with me when you don't even understand the most basic concepts of the event? Or is it that you're not attempting to make me look bad and you genuinely don't understand these simple concepts? Again please tell me how I can better word my posts so you grasp things.
I never said that attacking you with a partial deck would get you the same amount of points as attacking with a full deck. I said I would rather attack you and get guaranteed points. Does that not make sense? Let me explain. If I don't have enough attack points for my full deck, I'm finding someone with a low def attribute to use my attack points on and get 70 or 80 points. 70 or 80 points is greater than the 0 points i would get attacking someone with over 100 def and its still more than the 4 points i would get from attacking the core. Its simple math really. Any positive number is greater than 0.
Is it really that hard to understand that not everybody is statted to get off a exactly 2 or 3 times their full attack deck? What if I attacked the wall first with a partial deck of wallbreakers? Then I could find someone with low def too boost my morale without having to fire up another pp.
quote truscorpio
My deck for next war will be 1 or 2 legend spidermans ur ghost rider 1 or 2 and then 1 or 2 phoenix's. With a 30% scrapper bonus how many decks in the game will have a legit shot of standing up to my deck?
Oh really, you can beat almost any deck with that? Thanks for the edumacation...i had no idea.. Is the sky also blue? A bunch of people in your alliance are going to have that deck, too? Good job. I can't believe you are bragging about your $500+ deck and then also bragging about saving a few bucks on pp... really? Hood rich i guess...
quote truscorpio
Probably because you have shown that you struggle not only with simple math but the basic concepts of this game. In this very post you have shown your own ignorance to how points are figured. In others you showed you didn't understand how the 20% point cut worked either. Whats amusing is that you think I"m some sort of idiot and you actually think you're showing me up while you're actually showing your own ignorance and making yourself look like an idiot.
I didn't play RoB before this and the guide to this event was poorly written. I think it even changed during the event and even then there were still many questions about how exactly the points were calculated. They were not explicitly defined anywhere and some parts of the guide gave false information (such as the doubling of points for winning teams). I never claimed that I knew for certain how points were calculated and I had no problems with giving ground to someone who knew better from prior experiences in similar games. Now you're just coming off as a spiteful d-bag once again... Its amusing to think that you are furiously typing angry words to someone who was admittedly confused by the poorly written guide and that you haven't shown a single example of how someone who struggles with simple math is wrong in his math. Quote me on an equation or numbers and prove how my simple math is off. I like how you think I think you're an idiot... Sorry man, that's just your inferiority complex again. I just think you're a d-bag.
quote truscorpio
That generally is a good philosophy. However, you can find easier targets than me that still give you better points. If you attack me instead of somebody who gives you better points thats actually better for my alliance isn't it?
Guaranteed points vs non-guaranteed points. How do you not understand this concept? We don't get to look at the other person's cards before we attack... You can barely field a 30k defense with a 60 def deck...
quote truscorpio
The build works at all levels of the game because you're typically going to encounter decks at your level. If you're using a 5 human torch deck you're not going to encounter many 5 iron man or 5 captain decks so your deck will be relatively efficient for the people you're encountering allowing you to maximize points.
I thought the whole point of the build was to be able score more points by attacking above your level not at your level... Now its not important to attack above your level? Which is it?
quote HereToHelp
In reality, a good def deck would probably only lose to 3 or 4 decks out of 20 even with bonuses, but even with allowing half the players to get full valor from "balanced" build, "optimal" build is still giving up 33% more points to the entire alliance even if he's scoring 50% more on an individual basis.
quote truscorpio
The problem with this scenario is that the defense person isn't generating points either its a trade off. The low defense person is giving up less points and generating more points across the board. The problem with this scenario also is no scrapper bonus. 40k deck can beat much stronger deck with the 30% bonus.
Read the words man! They are right there. I stated right above this quoted text that the individual is scoring 50% more points per attack. Generating more points across the board? Is that different than scoring 50% more on an individual basis? Are there more ways to score points to complete the board? Edumacate me please?
Do you even read my posts? Haven't I stated 3 requirements in order for your build to be effective that most new players would not be able to acquire? (even though you came into a newbie thread pimping your build)
1)Do you have an elite attack deck? yea you do...you lucky guy you
2)Do you have multiple feeder accounts? Of course you do! All day. Every day.
3)Are you in a strong alliance?Top 30. Impressive.
Good job, truscorpio. I have been agreeing with you that your build can be effective for you.. *slow clap*
I've never argued against this build in the right conditions.
Do i still think it puts your team at a disadvantage? Yes i do.
Do I like a nice Win/Loss ratio? Yes I do. I don't care if it means nothing to you. It means something to me regardless of whether it saves me any pp or not.
In closing:
quote truscoprio
My deck next war should be 55-60k and I'll work on skilling my spiderman/s up too combined with scrapper bonus I'll easily beat strong defense decks.
You so strong. How much can you bench press?
